BletchleyGeek Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) Months ago I joked the game would come out in winter... Guess what, southern hemisphere winter is almost here! Edited May 23, 2020 by BletchleyGeek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpete Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, BletchleyGeek said: Months ago I joked the game would come out in winter... Guess what, southern hemisphere winter is almost here! At this rate, I'd bet for next northern hemisphere winter (I hope I am wrong ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 As i understand it...BFC makes most of their money on other things then the public CM2 games... I guess they need it...because this releaserate is not good !! Its hard to make any money if they have no new products to sell. I don't really like the current trend of comments about their products comming from BFC either... Everything is to big...to complicated - CMSF2 was to big, to complicated.. - R-tv was to big, to complicated.. - Fire and rubble is...to big and complicated. It's really sad that they can't release their products faster...because if they could...they would most certainly sell.. It's a bad situation imo.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howler Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Hey; leave CMSF2 out of your drunken ramblings! That was awesome fan service for owners of the original. Very much appreciated by many here including myself. Otherwise, I'm not to sure what you mean by too big & complicated... what would you have them release instead? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilM Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Howler said: Hey; leave CMSF2 out of your drunken ramblings! That was awesome fan service for owners of the original. Very much appreciated by many here including myself. Otherwise, I'm not to sure what you mean by too big & complicated... what would you have them release instead? I *think* what @RepsolCBR meant was not that it's HIS view that things are too big / too complicated, but that that's what BFC say to explain why every new release *seems* to take so long ...?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilM Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 FWIW, I continue to hope that the somewhat slow release schedule is partly because CM3 is being worked on as we speak ... I admit to thinking sometimes that the balance of work / "issues" on CM2 is a little off - I guess mainly because of the decisions taken many moons ago over the structure of CM2. For example: there are (almost) infinite pains taken to get new release TOE / ammunition load-outs etc right (which is good, of course), but we still have to accept (rather too often for my taste) AP shells exploding harmlessly, repeatedly, on a tree sitting exactly in front of the aiming-point centre of mass of a target AFV. I guess that the latter is difficult / impossible to address because of the way the CM2 engine works: but I'd sooner see a solution to that than addressing the correct shoulder patches on the uniforms of *insert nation here* troops in an expansion package. Or am I being unfair? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, PhilM said: I *think* what @RepsolCBR meant was not that it's HIS view that things are too big / too complicated, but that that's what BFC say to explain why every new release *seems* to take so long ...?? Jepp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 35 minutes ago, Howler said: That was awesome fan service for owners of the original. Very much appreciated by many here including myself. Me to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, PhilM said: I *think* what @RepsolCBR meant was not that it's HIS view that things are too big / too complicated, but that that's what BFC say to explain why every new release *seems* to take so long ...?? The problem with making a realistic game ... reality is complicated. ( and really big ) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, Baneman said: The problem with making a realistic game ... reality is complicated. ( and really big ) True .. But this has been equally true all through the CM2 timeframe...has it not ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, PhilM said: ....because of the decisions taken many moons ago over the structure of CM2... are (almost) infinite pains taken to get new release TOE / ammunition load-outs etc right (which is good, of course), but we still have to accept (rather too often for my taste) AP shells exploding harmlessly, repeatedly, on a tree sitting exactly in front of the aiming-point centre of mass of a target AFV. This imbalance during the ever increasing attempts to sim "realism" is something that has become more obvious as time passes. Yes, it's wonderful that every rivet on a tank or uniform items for "July 1944" are accurate. But, we also have other longstanding issues that are quite major that BF is unable to solve eg: troops panicking in "unrealistic" directions, weird LOS phenomena, pathing issues, and other items that we're not sure are bugs or simple eccentricities of the engine. One gets the feeling that the CM2 game engine has gotten so complex/unwieldy that solving one issue often gives rise to some other problem. I recall the frustration re CM1 becoming problematic which led to the development of CM2. Am wondering if CM2 is now headed in that same direction and may be becoming too cumbersome for its own good. I note that after all these years of CM2 development I am unable to get any CM2 game to run on my brand new vanilla Win 10 machine. Installation issues should have been solved many years ago. Really hope that CM3 is on the horizon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Erwin said: This imbalance during the ever increasing attempts to sim "realism" is something that has become more obvious as time passes. Yes, it's wonderful that every rivet on a tank or uniform items for "July 1944" are accurate. But, we also have other longstanding issues that are quite major that BF is unable to solve eg: troops panicking in "unrealistic" directions, weird LOS phenomena, pathing issues, and other items that we're not sure are bugs or simple eccentricities of the engine. One gets the feeling that the CM2 game engine has gotten so complex/unwieldy that solving one issue often gives rise to some other problem. I recall the frustration re CM1 becoming problematic which led to the development of CM2. Am wondering if CM2 is now headed in that same direction and may be becoming too cumbersome for its own good. I note that after all these years of CM2 development I am unable to get any CM2 game to run on my brand new vanilla Win 10 machine. Installation issues should have been solved many years ago. Really hope that CM3 is on the horizon. Have you identified why it doesn't run on your new PC? I'm in the process of looking for a new one, but if it doesn't run CM - no sale! Make sure no bloatware causes problems. I have had that with a sound enhancement app that crashed CM and some other games by small devs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George MC Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) @Erwin Zero issues getting CM to run on PC. You raised a ticket with support? to add - I’m always changing bits and bobs on my machine and run W10 nae bother. Edited May 23, 2020 by George MC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 2 hours ago, George MC said: I’m always changing bits and bobs on my machine and run W10 nae bother. Do you add exclusions for the game folders in Windows Defender (or whatever they are currently calling it).....That's the current suspect in @Erwin's difficulties. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba883XL Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 i don't recall seeing any mention of CM X 3 in the pipeline?? the original plan i was aware of was once they'd finished late war, they were gona re visit early war etc, i hope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George MC Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: Do you add exclusions for the game folders in Windows Defender (or whatever they are currently calling it).....That's the current suspect in @Erwin's difficulties. Nope - never had to. I had issues with Avast but only with CM betas (kept putting em into quarantine) so switched back to Windows Defender and not had any issues at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macisle Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 7 hours ago, Erwin said: I note that after all these years of CM2 development I am unable to get any CM2 game to run on my brand new vanilla Win 10 machine. Installation issues should have been solved many years ago. Really hope that CM3 is on the horizon. I added an SSD to my old workhorse a few months ago, putting the OS and apps on the SSD and using my old HDD for the file libraries. That meant a clean windows 10 install. I also moved CMBN to the SSD (Documents folder is on the HDD). I had no issues installing any of my CM2 titles. All work normally. But yes, I also really hope CM3 is on the horizon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn2002 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 22 hours ago, BletchleyGeek said: Months ago I joked the game would come out in winter... Guess what, southern hemisphere winter is almost here! More than a year ago I predicted a fall 2020 release. I'm beginning to fear even that was too optimistic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 On 5/23/2020 at 9:20 AM, rocketman said: Have you identified why it doesn't run on your new PC? I'm in the process of looking for a new one, but if it doesn't run CM - no sale! Am going to see if disabling Win Defender does the trick. While the older version of Defender was (I am told) "passive" the new version is "active". Perhaps it's so new that so far only I have the new version among CM players(?) Have been having flashbacks to the late 90's when "Panzer Elite SE" was the best sim out there. One spent more time trying to get PESE to work than actually playing the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 "Long-necked, ice-cold beers never broke my heart... Wait-ing on B-F-C is tearing this boy apart" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 "A CMRT module being released soon would be as smooth as Tennessee Whiskey, sweet as strawberry wine..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 But even if BFC can't get it out until 2021, I still wish them Green Grass and High Tides... even 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba883XL Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 have you got the game to work yet rocketman? i have a new machine, be it about from 02/02/19 and all is good... win 10 user to, SSD in C/; and D/ games are in D/ drive, it must be something else stopping it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Rocketman thinks it's going to be a long long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFCElvis Posted June 8, 2020 Author Share Posted June 8, 2020 When posting the screenshots for the Beta AAR I haven't taken time to "stop and smell the flowers", so to speak, on Ben's Berlin lap. So i thought if might be nice to share these screenshots that @benpark took. They aren't from the AAR map but damn are they nice, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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