BarendJanNL Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, danfrodo said: Modern Brits vs Russia does sound rather fun.... Well, from what I can see in the video, in this particular scenario the Brits are getting their ass handed to them, with several Warriors destroyed and AT weapons beeing defeated by Russian APS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicky Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Interesting - are there likely any spin-offs from the MOD simulator that could end up in consumer game? Funnily enough in Colchester most of the paras in barracks are on lockdown, or sent home - though their dep. commander is in doo doo after hosting an impromtu officers party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 16 minutes ago, Wicky said: Interesting - are there likely any spin-offs from the MOD simulator that could end up in consumer game? Funnily enough in Colchester most of the paras in barracks are on lockdown, or sent home - though their dep. commander is in doo doo after hosting an impromtu officers party. It was an eye testing event he will be fine!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufo Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Battlefront.com said: We then work with them to design solutions for things CM currently can't do or can't do the way they need it to. Those designs are refined and then prioritized with other needs. I hope in the agreement you signed you specified that those improvements will be available commercially as well afterwards.? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) Quote ...are there likely any spin-offs from the MOD simulator that could end up in consumer game? Even the Beta testers were kept out of the loop on this project. BFC played its cards very close to the vest on this project. You're hearing about this now because Slitherine posted something, and what they discussed publicly is about as much as BFC can discuss publicly. Talk too much and we may wind up camping out in the Ecuadorian embassy trying to avoid arrest. Edited June 3, 2020 by MikeyD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 I recall CMSF I being used just to show US Army logistics officers just how easy it is to expend literally tons of ammunition in a typical mechanized company engagement. I think that was just an individual initiative by the training school who had purchased several copies of the standard commercial game . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Great to see that vid. Thanks for sharing it. It's good to see this community getting some professional consideration. Congrats to BFC and Slitherine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 7 hours ago, Bufo said: I hope in the agreement you signed you specified that those improvements will be available commercially as well afterwards.? Sorta. The thing is there's nothing (yet) that we've developed for them that we would put into a commercial product. They're the sorts of things that appeal to the lab coat type only. That's not the sort of stuff we're interested in having generally available and being obligated to support. And no, I can't tell you what's been added Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatEtr Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Super kool seeing our beloved CM being used by the actual military! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josey Wales Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) You do realise you have destroyed the British Army from within; Sgt: "Perkins what the hell are you doing? You were supposed to be on patrol 10 minutes ago!" Perkins: "Err yep.... be right with you sarge... just got to split off this scout team, give them a hunt command" Sgt: "Perkins get your backside in gear!" Perkins: "Yep yep, just calculating the turn.... just got to quickly watch this replay" Sgt: 'PERKINNNNSS!" Seriously though, really interesting to see this. Well done. Edited June 4, 2020 by Josey Wales 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn2002 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Mixed feelings about all this. Good to see BF making money and securing their future. Well deserved, business first etc. Less happy since this will inevitably result in more delay and a slower output of games for us. But impressive stuff, that has to be said. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufo Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 9 hours ago, Battlefront.com said: Sorta. The thing is there's nothing (yet) that we've developed for them that we would put into a commercial product. They're the sorts of things that appeal to the lab coat type only. That's not the sort of stuff we're interested in having generally available and being obligated to support. And no, I can't tell you what's been added Steve Yeah judging by my experience its probably related to their assessment/evaluation things, so yes not so much interesting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 5 hours ago, Josey Wales said: You do realise you have destroyed the British Army from within; Sgt: "Perkins what the hell are you doing? You were supposed to be on patrol 10 minutes ago!" Perkins: "Err yep.... be right with you sarge... just got to split off this scout team, give them a hunt command" Sgt: "Perkins get your backside in gear!" Perkins: "Yep yep, just calculating the turn.... just got to quickly watch this replay" Sgt: 'PERKINNNNSS!" Seriously though, really interesting to see this. Well done. Perkins, suppress that building! No sir... there's no point. What? NO AIM POINT 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomm Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Ha! That video is awesome! Kinda gives the feeling that one did not waste time testing/playing Combat Mission. Best regards, Thomm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) Could we maybe put up a Battlefront Forum team to challenge one of theirs? That's an AAR I'd be fascinated to see. Edited June 4, 2020 by Sgt.Squarehead 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BletchleyGeek Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Congratulations to the BFC team for what I think is the best endorsement for a simulation like CMx2. I can only hope that besides the $$$ stream coming via the contract, you guys also get some feedback on the sim, the kind of feedback that "nerds in white lab coats" can generate, and that helps you make CMx2 (or future ones) better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Thanks! From our point of view, this is incredibly rewarding to us as it validates our core philosophy... Combat Mission is a sim first, game second. The sorts of things that an organization like Dstl is potentially interested in (and honestly, I only have the barest knowledge of their intended uses) require the underlying model be "defendable". Otherwise it is a waste of time and resources to test for something and then not be sure the results are reflective of reality. It's humbling to know they have so much faith in our system, especially because they've got a view of the insides in ways not even you guys do. We've always believed in honesty and transparency with you lot, but Dstl requires it to go much further than that for obvious reasons. One of the fun things about working with Dstl is that they are focused on the simulation elements, not the game elements (as much). A few things we've added cost much less in time/money compared to making the same functionality available to the general public. Since they don't care as much about something being graphically pleasing, intuitive, foolproof, etc. we can get right into things and produce results relatively quickly. Which is great for us because the simulation side of things is where our heart is. Making it pretty is also fun, but can be rather annoying at times because now we have to be perfectionists about two things! That said, don't worry about us going off the rails and forgetting about all of you. Defense work is very fickle. Currently this is our only active contract and it could end at any time for any number of reasons. Knowing that, we would be fools to put all our eggs in this basket or any other defense related basket. Plus, on the business side of things you fine folks are still the ones putting food on the table for us. We will never forget that, nor take it for granted. Expect as much from us as you always have, even though that's often been more than we promised Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinaldi Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 This is excellent stuff, I remember being very excited when I first saw ARMOR magazine touting SF1 and a few individual Canadian army units using it ad-hoc to help visualize otherwise bland wargaming; it never moved on to anything beyond such individual initiatives (which you've explained earlier). This is a massive step-up to see ready made versions for use with armed forces. Congratulations guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Every $ they make ups the chance of more game development for us, so I'm in favor of them having more revenue sources. Delays suck, but a lot less than not having BFC down the road. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert DuBalay Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Congrats guys ! You're number ONE. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanov Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 On 6/3/2020 at 7:54 AM, Majestic12 said: Why turn comments off? That's pretty obvious, at least to me. It's not some teenager YT channel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba883XL Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 this is really cool..thanks for posting this and sharing it. very cool to see this game get the recognition it deserves..awesome. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethaface Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I'd say there is a fair chance some of those who get to play with it professionally become interested in the trying the other game families. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Placebo Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Really interesting video, thanks for sharing. I always thought there was a place in military training for CM so very glad the U.K. are making use of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 I'm reminded of how Patton was compelled to send out messages to his tankers with simple instruction like "USE TERRAIN TO MASK YOUR MOVEMENTS!" because new replacement units coming over from the states weren't adequately trained. Tank Destroy forces were considered 'elite' units because they had actually bothered to train them in basic tactics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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