ChrisND Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 The video show's a full on BMP assault, but what would they be assaulting? They are going through an artillery barrage or something? Was it made more for promotional purposes rather than a depiction of a particular battle? I wouldn't read too much into a promotional video. It's there to look cool and not much more (and it sure did succeed at that!) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dima Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 I am excited about being able to play Soviet Forces from the height of their power. But to be quite honest the opponent here is even less capable, and by a wide margin so, than the Syrians in CM:SF. I don't think that the finer points of modeling infantry in CM:<modern> are well enough developed to tackle Soviet mech formations with Mujaheddin. If I didn't miss anything this game also will not see the foxholes with fog of war that we hopefully get in CM:<ww2> (and obviously neither are trenches subject to FoW). I wonder what the prospect of gaming options is with this title. Red on Red (or is that now Blue on Blue?) might be very interesting here, as in simulating some internal Soviet conflict. But that would at least require that you can load different uniform and vehicle skins for the same units for different sides, which to my knowledge hasn't been implemented either. If it was then a conflict of Soviets versus India or China would be within modeling range of this title. I think in a on-sentence summary I can sum it up as: the limitations of the infantry model in pre-Normandy CMx2 don't seem to mix with a game that only has infantry on one side. I think the main interest would be replaying and learning the history of that war. The game will hopefully reflect real battles that really happened. You'd be able to see what the russians were up against, what the Mujahedins were up against and how it all went. That's the difference between it and CMSF that tries to replicate a would-be war that may or may not play out as we think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixxkiller Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Then a ZU-23-2 would be even better. ZU-23 would be even better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 This is awesome news, I have always hoped for a Soviet-Afghan game ever since I heard CM was going modern. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 A few of the beta testers have let it be known how wonderful a ZSU-23 would be to be included in CMSF. If they did this, wouldn't they have to add in a whole AA element into the NATO module that they wouldn't need to do for Afganistan? Maybe they'll have the work done already for Normandy, but it seems to make it less likely for the NATO module to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Bijlsma Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 If they did this, wouldn't they have to add in a whole AA element into the NATO module that they wouldn't need to do for Afganistan? Or we could just learn to live with a Shilka just shooting up ground targets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyStrike Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Redwolf, It depends. If you're interested in the game's topic, I think that is all the appeal that is needed. If you're not, then as a player you're going to be far more "picky" about what the game offers. Which is natural and not at all unexpected. As stated earlier, this is a game made by Russians for the Russian market. If it has appeal to customers outside of the Russian market, great. If it doesn't, we're fine with that too since it wasn't intended to have broad appeal. Our relationship with the developer is based on these principles too, so they're OK with it as well. [edit... dang, typo. Corrected an "isn't" that should have been an "is"] Expect more niche within niche games from the CMx2 engine made by people you've probably never heard of. It is a key part of our strategy of providing wargamers with a wide array of gaming options to choose from. Gone are the days when it's just one Combat Mission every couple of years and it's always the same general game. The next few years should be quite interesting for tactical wargaming! Steve An unexpected bonus to be sure. Bravo! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybertrand Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Redwolf, It depends. If you're interested in the game's topic, I think that is all the appeal that is needed. If you're not, then as a player you're going to be far more "picky" about what the game offers. Which is natural and not at all unexpected. As stated earlier, this is a game made by Russians for the Russian market. If it has appeal to customers outside of the Russian market, great. If it doesn't, we're fine with that too since it wasn't intended to have broad appeal. Our relationship with the developer is based on these principles too, so they're OK with it as well. [edit... dang, typo. Corrected an "isn't" that should have been an "is"] Expect more niche within niche games from the CMx2 engine made by people you've probably never heard of. It is a key part of our strategy of providing wargamers with a wide array of gaming options to choose from. Gone are the days when it's just one Combat Mission every couple of years and it's always the same general game. The next few years should be quite interesting for tactical wargaming! Steve That's very good news ! And yes, CM : A is interesting people outside Russia. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzerschlange Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 Release date in Russia - 18 september 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dima Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 On the russian page they posted equipment list http://www.snowball.ru/afgan/?page=tech http://www.snowball.ru/afgan/?page=tech2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Bijlsma Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Hope they get the SMLE Mk III look right in the actual game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 So what can be stolen easily for CMSF? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 So what can be stolen easily for CMSF? I'm hoping ground and building textures. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpitfireXI Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 I noticed the link for the game had the Afghans listed as being able to use a stinger missile. Are they planning on having some sort of air defense capability in the game? And what about air strikes availability for the russians? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Marshal Blücher Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Did I see a BMD in the Russian vehicle list? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanker15 Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Yeah 2 of them! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikkey Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 this game is based on the CMx2 engine but which version 1.08, 1.10, 1.11 (blue bar etc...) or new 1.20? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 The latest version. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikkey Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 super, thanks Moon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wengart Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Moon, will CM:A then be patched concurrently with CM:SF? Or will they have their own patching system? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homo ferricus Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Woaw, according to that list, this game's gonna have Shilkas and Stingers... Take it away, speculators! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General_solomon Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Release date in Russia - 18 september will the us version be available at the same time and what's the price. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Well... don't believe everything you read Stingers aren't going to happen. Sometimes reviewers add their own list of things (we had one say US Army IBCT has LAV IIIs ), other times there is some miscommunication with the developer. All I can say is we still haven't coded air to ground combat. Also, that is an old release date. It shouldn't be much later than Sept 18. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laca25 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Oohhh, there is my red campaign.... cool! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1A1TC Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Judging from the Syrian voices in the video Russian developer didnt use my Russian Voices mod. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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