Bubba883XL Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 its a shame we can't have some way of saving that status of the battle once its over, like condition and status of all units etc, and the status of the map, so if you wish to keep on fighting or making multiple scenarios with a cascade affect etc without having to make a campaign. and a list to some degree of the casualties per unit etc. is always something i like to see in detail. in similar fashion as done by close combat games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Aquila-SmartWargames said: A feature to consider for engine upgrades is the command delay of CM1 being reinstated as an optional setting. While I wouldn't object to seeing the delay return, I'd much rather see static campaigns with persistent map damage (and real fire too) first. Edited January 9, 2021 by Sgt.Squarehead 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba883XL Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 would love to see setting fire to buildings return! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bubba883XL said: its a shame we can't have some way of saving that status of the battle once its over, like condition and status of all units etc, and the status of the map, so if you wish to keep on fighting or making multiple scenarios with a cascade affect etc without having to make a campaign. In CM1 you could import your final turn into the editor and add fresh units for a sequel.....Damage to the map, wrecked vehicles were all preserved. IIRC fires went out though (but it was easy enough to start a new one). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: While I wouldn't object to seeing the delay return, I'd much rather see static campaigns with persistent map damage (and real fire too) first. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapon2010 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Bubba883XL said: would love to see setting fire to buildings return! its a must for a realistic war setting, it was important to have random spreading fire in CMBO, important and accurate 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) I just remember those huge wheatfields in CM:BB.....On fire from end to end! Edited January 9, 2021 by Sgt.Squarehead 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapon2010 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 agreed , I remember to , but i dont have to have conflagrations, just the potential for stuff to burn, does it get out of control?maybe? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn2002 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: I just remember those huge wheatfields in CM:BB.....On fire from end to end! Hell yes! I still mis them! Thought about that just a week ago. Edited January 9, 2021 by Aragorn2002 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba883XL Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 5 hours ago, weapon2010 said: its a must for a realistic war setting, it was important to have random spreading fire in CMBO, important and accurate i also loved how strategic it could be, blocking alleys of movement, used to do it alot in berlin to Barbarossa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Steppenwulf Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 14 hours ago, Bubba883XL said: its a shame we can't have some way of saving that status of the battle once its over, like condition and status of all units etc, and the status of the map, so if you wish to keep on fighting or making multiple scenarios with a cascade affect etc without having to make a campaign. and a list to some degree of the casualties per unit etc. is always something i like to see in detail. in similar fashion as done by close combat games. Speculatively, it would not surprise me if a detailed data output tool feature was implemented for the MoD version (given the requirement for post evaluation & analysis in mil training exercises). Does not mean the community will get it though - rather sounds like the very thing Steve refers to in his OP: Quote Definitely not the one that requires a dedicated high end system with 12GB of free RAM and hours of thumb twiddling time while numbers are crunched. Oddly enough, we don’t see it being a commercially viable feature. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornGinger Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, MikeyD said: Now when 99% of sales is online download I don't know what utility pre-ordering has anymore. Some game companies seem to give those who preorder something extra as a bonus. Maybe Battlefront could give those who preorder something as prestigious as a banner on the website saying for example "MikeyD - Hero of the Battlefront Community" or "MikeyD put his trust in our DLC. Do you do the same?" Or why not give them a special forum icon to use here if they get bored with the one they have? That could make those who preorder a bit special and feel like a great bonus. Have buildings on fire as mentioned above is something I have wanted for a long time. Would be great to have if BF would like to bring it back. What was the reason to remove that feature in CM2? Edited January 9, 2021 by BornGinger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn2002 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 23 hours ago, MikeyD said: Pre-orders used to have some genuine utility back when BFC had to judge how many paper manuals and game CDs they should produce for release. Now when 99% of sales is online download I don't know what utility pre-ordering has anymore. Also sales through Steam has thrown BFC's sales forecast numbers all out of whack. Pre-order is still a pretty good marketing gimmick to generate some 'buzz' before the release date. It's extra money. Plain and simple. If you want to create 'buzz' you can give more information about the coming module to those who are waiting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Aragorn2002 said: It's extra money. How? It doesn't cost any more and if it means Steve & Co. have a bit of 'fluidity' to make things happen, I'm all for it.....Christ I pre-ordered that POS Cyberpunk 2077 so whingeing about Battlefront's pre-orders would be downright churlish. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapon2010 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 12 hours ago, Bubba883XL said: i also loved how strategic it could be, blocking alleys of movement, used to do it alot in berlin to Barbarossa yes, but was that tactic actualy used ? i remeber it doing a long time ago and got criticized for it being gamey 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn2002 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 44 minutes ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: How? It doesn't cost any more and if it means Steve & Co. have a bit of 'fluidity' to make things happen, I'm all for it.....Christ I pre-ordered that POS Cyberpunk 2077 so whingeing about Battlefront's pre-orders would be downright churlish. Then, what is the use of pre-orders? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Steppenwulf Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Aragorn2002 said: Then, what is the use of pre-orders? I'd suggest in general it allows producer/publishers to generate some return on the product prior to actual release. Given blockbuster games esp there is enormous overhead with no return on the product until release. That could be 2/3 years of staff salaries with absolutely nothing to show for it. For same cash-flow reasons, it could also offer some flexibility (from publisher to developer) with the release window by extending some staff contracts so they can squash bugs/complete features/add polish etc.. Thirdly perhaps the larger publishers can get a picture from pre release orders what the projected sales of the product might be, given that they will have lots of data to compare sales with. Perhaps there are correlations between pre purchase figures and units shifted 6 months post release. Most games on pre purchase carry a discount for the customer, DCS modules for example are always discounted during pre purchase window. With regard to BF, I believe the pre purchase SF2 bundle was discounted. I wouldn't have pre ordered otherwise. Edited January 10, 2021 by The Steppenwulf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn2002 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) I often pre-order books and sometimes games, which always means you get a discount. It also doesn't mean delay for those that don't pre-order. Edited January 10, 2021 by Aragorn2002 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user1000 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Looks like I will check back in July... Hope some official ww2 patches\packs will be well out by then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artkin Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 On 1/9/2021 at 1:53 PM, BornGinger said: Some game companies seem to give those who preorder something extra as a bonus. Maybe Battlefront could give those who preorder something as prestigious as a banner on the website saying for example "MikeyD - Hero of the Battlefront Community" or "MikeyD put his trust in our DLC. Do you do the same?" Or why not give them a special forum icon to use here if they get bored with the one they have? That could make those who preorder a bit special and feel like a great bonus. Meh. Who cares tbh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethaface Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) The genuine benefit of a pre-order at BFC is that you'll get an e-mail notifying you it's ready (at least in the past). Considering they usually soft-launch, that can be helpful if you need to be one of the first. Edited January 11, 2021 by Lethaface 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn2002 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 25 minutes ago, Lethaface said: The genuine benefit of a pre-order at BFC is that you'll get an e-mail notifying you it's ready (at least in the past). Considering they usually soft-launch, that can be helpful if you need to be one of the first. Is that a genuine benefit? Most of us check this forum on a daily basis anyway. And need to be first? Why? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 5:22 PM, Aquila-SmartWargames said: A feature to consider for engine upgrades is the command delay of CM1 being reinstated as an optional setting. Yuck, no thanks. It is not at all reasonable for a squad leader getting his men out of harms way to have multi minute delays just because a lot of order segments are involved. I realize the command delays are good at representing communication delays and experience for higher up commanders. It utterly fails for lower level officers and NCOs. Since in CM you play all command levels it just do not work. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethaface Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, Aragorn2002 said: Is that a genuine benefit? Most of us check this forum on a daily basis anyway. And need to be first? Why? Well I expected you to have a need to be first Genuine just says that that's the 'real' benefit. I usually don't pre order but just buy when I see it's available. And indeed I doubt that I'll miss it for weeks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornGinger Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Artkin said: Meh. Who cares tbh It was just a bit of sarcasm from my side. But I'm sure some peoole would be happy to get something extra for making a pre-order. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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