DesertFox Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, akd said: Sorry couldn´t resist...that Blackadder meme is too fitting for this... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gpig Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, db_zero said: All these unconfirmed reports of Russian ships getting hit but no major news outlets have reported it yet…I did see an MSN article that says to be skeptical of the event. BBC had a quick note on it...BBC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huba Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) General Melchett being the mastermind behind Russian invasion is very plausible indeed. 17 minutes ago, db_zero said: People are saying it’s from a picture that was overexposed or large explosions produce a mushroom cloud… Here's a video from which this frame was taken. It looks like the light of explosion was reflected by the cloud cover.https://twitter.com/antiputler_news/status/1514358340180193282 Edited April 13, 2022 by Huba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Capt Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, amadeupname said: F&R would disagree with you. Everyone went silent for the most part ever since this war broke out, call me a troll all you want, at the end of the day we're here to play a game and I'm concerned about the future of my favorite game series. Actually at the end of the day we are a wargaming community with deep interest (and some expertise) in the history of warfare. This is the first peer-on-peer conventional war of the 21st century and likely the most intense since the Iran-Iraq war back in the 80s, so you can understand why it is kind of a big deal. As to the games, no small amount of effort you see here is to try and figure out how to make CM more realistic, particularly the modern titles. So let’s call this game design in contact. Finally we are about analysis and assessment that cut through a lot of the noise out there, so we have seen a lot of people migrate here because we try and remain unbiased- as far as we can as we stand with Ukraine on this one- and offer a different picture than a lot of mainstream military analysis. Moreover, we will toot our own horn as we have been noted as out in front of events thanks in large part to information sharing and a robust online debate. We are also on the internet and get whackies, which have been warned and in some cases banned. That all said, do not worry BFC is still in the gaming business but right now they have their eyes on this history in the making. They (and “we”: check out CMCW while you are in the gift shop!), will be back to making the game series you love shortly but right now the best good we can do is try and keep a clear eye on things and keep each other informed while supporting those of us in the middle of all this. Edited April 14, 2022 by The_Capt 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sross112 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Someone posted a video from the youtube channel Eli from Russia a few days ago that was talking about the effects of sanctions on Russia. I watched it and found it interesting as well as a couple others she did. She wanders through their biggest mall in Moscow and talks about some of the closed stores (McDonalds, KFC and a couple I can't recall), but what I thought was interesting were all the stores that weren't closed. The Gap, Nike and several others. It looked like about 90% or more of the outlets were still in operation. Surprised there isn't more public pressure on those companies as well. Anyway, for those interested in the effects of the sanctions I just watched a video of her and another vlogger comparing prices of electronics: The gist of it is prices have increased on phones, tv's and appliances 50 to 100%. For example the new Iphone I think was 160,000 ish rubles and they state that the average income in Moscow is 60-80,000 rubles a month and that is 2-3 times higher than most of the other provincial cities around the country. She also stated that she was looking for lenses for her camera that she bought in December (price of said camera has doubled since then) and she absolutely can't find any anywhere. So I reckon the sanctions are starting to show and this inflation will continue higher and higher until the warehoused stocks of electronics are gone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huba Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 And we have confirmation: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Steppenwulf Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, The_Capt said: Actually at the end of the day we are a wargaming community with deep interest (and some expertise) in the history of warfare. This is the first peer-on-peer conventional war of the 21st century and likely he most intense since the Iran-Iraq war back in the 80s, so you can understand why it is kind of a big deal. As to the games, no small amount of effort you see here is to try and figure out how to make CM more realistic, particularly the modern titles. So let’s call this game design in contact. Finally we are about analysis and assessment that cut through a lot of the noise out there, so we have seen a lot of people migrate here because we try and remain unbiased- as far as we can as we stand with Ukraine on this one- and offer a different picture than a lot of mainstream military analysis. Moreover, we will toot our own horn as we have been noted as out in front of events thanks in large part to information sharing and a robust online debate. We are also on the internet and get whackies, which have been warned and in some cases banned. That all said, do not worry BFC is still in the gaming business but right now they have their eyes on this history in the making. They (and “we”: check out CMCW while you are in the gift shop!), will be back to making the game series you love shortly but right now the best good we can do is try and keep a clear eye on things and keep each other informed while supporting those of us in the middle of all this. I think this is very generous. I just reached for the dislike button - for the first time ever on the BF forum - and realised there isn't one! Edited April 13, 2022 by The Steppenwulf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Huba said: And we have confirmation: +1 So the butcher@bucha went from "special operation and peace" to "special underwater operation and peace"? That is quite a nice escalation. He really knows his Tolstoi... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrashb Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, Huba said: And we have confirmation From the article, "The cause of the fire is under investigation, the military department added." To briefly indulge in some fun, I suppose they are determining if it was a Harpoon, Neptune, or a thunder run by a John Deere. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 9 hours ago, womble said: No, it won't. It may well go away by crushing the Russian economy via sanctions though. Like the oil embargo on Japan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huba Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) What's most ironic is that at the same day Moskva was hit, Ukrainian post office published this new stamp design. You couldn't make that up, it's like a conspiracy of postmen: Edited April 13, 2022 by Huba 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danfrodo Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Folks here haven't played CM? Didn't know that. Welcome! And note that it's a realistic military simulation -- meaning bad guys try to destroy your forces and your men don't have any healing powers once sufficiently wounded, or killed. Like in real life. Winning happens only one way: through the use of real life proper tactics and combined arms. Losing, unfortunately, happens lots of ways! Bad luck, bad decisions, mud, soft sand, lucky enemy shots are all part of the action. This aint Assault Squad or company of heroes. I started on the modern titles a few years ago after some years in CM-WW2. What fantastic fun and intellectual challenges. Modern weapons systems are crazy deadly, crazy fast, and crazy in variety. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, DesertFox said: +1 So the butcher@bucha went from "special operation and peace" to "special underwater operation and peace"? That is quite a nice escalation. He really knows his Tolstoi... So who is the commander of the Black Dea fleet? I suspect he just got a phone call to report to the Kremlin. Edited April 13, 2022 by sburke 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzermartin Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Huba said: And we have confirmation: Oh boy, they will lose their flagship to a nation without navy and people were afraid that Russia could threaten NATO. Looks like Russia is a rocket army, with small rockets to big nuclear ones and nothing in between. Give them a chance for peace will you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, sburke said: So who is the commander of the Black Dea fleet. I suspect he just got a phone call to report to the Kremlin. I hope he was aboard his flagship and in good old tradition went down with his ship. Otherwise he might be in for some polonium tea session... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Huba said: What's most ironic is that at the same day Moskva was hit, Ukrainian post office published this new stamp design. You couldn't make that up, it's like a conspiracy of postmen: GLORY TO UKRAINE! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I was in the middle of typing that "Flagship" implies there may have been some pretty high ranking officers on that boat. Start looking for official officer death notices. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultradave Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, Huba said: What's most ironic is that at the same day Moskva was hit, Ukrainian post office published this new stamp design. You couldn't make that up, it's like a conspiracy of postmen: OMG that is perfect! At first I thought it was a joke, then I found a nice article on NPR.org. I think Pres. Zelensky needs to send Putin a nice letter, with some newly issued stamps for postage. Dave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSarge Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Huba said: What's most ironic that at the same day Moskva was hit, Ukrainian post office published this new stamp design. You couldn't make that up, it's like a conspiracy of postmen: Karma! You never want to be on the wrong side of it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAZmaj Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 18 hours ago, sross112 said: 19 hours ago, CAZmaj said: Ukraine Will Easily Destroy or Sideline Russia’s Navy with Game-Changing Anti-Ship Missiles https://realcontextnews.com/ukraine-will-easily-or-destroy-or-sideline-russias-navy-with-game-changing-anti-ship-missiles/ PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT From The Russian Coast Guard Recent reports of Russian navy's flagship Moskva sinking are untrue. The Russian navy has converted the cruiser into a new type of submarine. It is undergoing its first underwater trials on the Black Sea LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Yup, Moskva is dead even if she is still floating. https://tass.ru/proisshestviya/14372453 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Bijlsma Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Finally some good news for the Russians. They lost an asset that Ukrainian farmers won't tow away. They are getting better at this! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Elmar Bijlsma said: Finally some good news for the Russians. They lost an asset that Ukrainian farmers won't tow away. They are getting better at this! Tugboats are just sea tractors. Prove me wrong. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeondTheGrave Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Hapless said: a by-product being the joking that most Russian vehicles didn't justify the expense of the missile. Since everyone in this thread seems to be talking about game dev again, when are we going to get a new line in the mission results screen? Killed, wounded, destroyed, $ cost for ordinance? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeondTheGrave Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Also for point of clarification, the Moskva attack. Im not familiar with the Neptune missile, is it hypersonic or in some way unusual? I read in a tweet they got two hits on three missiles? Seems like a pretty high rate of success if true. Should I take from this that Ukraine has next level ASuM or that the Russian CIWS sucks? Or maybe CIWS isn't all its cracked up to be? Tbh just having a hard time processing this Moskva thing, IMO its one of the most wild things I've read here in a while. Want to talk about @The_Capt's 'oh ****' moments regarding what the UA can do, for me this is another one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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