Battlefront.com Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Ardem, Yeah release 1940 would be the way to go, but oh know what will the americans think, oh brother I wish game designers would cater more to the world then one country.When the rest of the world starts buying (as opposed to pirating) more than 51% of the games that we developers make, then we'll talk For now the US game market is about 2-4 times larger than the rest of the world combined. Personally, I don't think any of our CM games catered to the US market. If that were true we wouldn't have included the Commonwealth in CMBO, done CMBB at all in any form, or put in all the various Commonwealth stuff we did into CMAK. But I understand... some people must always look at the glass as half empty even if it is overflowing Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Guys, I will give out a word of warning... When speculation starts going full tilt people start to see repetition in the guesses. The repetition can lead to reinforcement, and reinforcement to expectation. Expectation leads to disapointment if the initial guess was off the mark. It's all fun and games until someone forgets what happens when he pisses in the wind (or for you lady's ou tthere, squatting in bushes without first looking for poision ivy) Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 It's going to be a wargame. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPK Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Whenver I get stressed out thinking about what Battlefront could and should do FOR ME,I calm myself by getting out some old war-games rules... the Wargames Research Group 1925-1950 set for example... I'm not the only one who spent days moving tiny 1/285th scale tanks around a sand table, I tell you what. Some people still do it. The whole huge Battalion-level fight (all arms)ran on 6-sided dice, measuring tapes and reference tables...you had to move the miniatures yourself...every bloody tiny squad and determine LOS with a long ruler... Then along comes CMBO, which does all this, with3D graphics and sound, and even lets you do a kind of Operational series of battles... And these Battlefront guys dont just grab abstracted penetration tables off somewhere else, but design friggin' new algorithms... After playing CMBB for 3 years, my wish list for CMx2 relates more to the little things that need to be done to this series to continue to make it as realistic as possible... Night fighting and field engineering come to mind right off. When they say they are going to put more depth in, I'm pleased. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPK Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Sorry, what I meant to say was: (on subject) I don't care where or when the 1st module is set, as long as it has more cool stuff, and extra war. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hortlund Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Originally posted by Battlefront.com: When speculation starts going full tilt people start to see repetition in the guesses. The repetition can lead to reinforcement, and reinforcement to expectation. Expectation leads to disapointment if the initial guess was off the mark. Steve You know...there is a very easy way to remove all the speculation... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aka_tom_w Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I think this means he is telling us the first Game and Module on CMx2 WON'T be Normandy or the Bulge for example. IMHO -tom w Originally posted by Battlefront.com: Guys, I will give out a word of warning... When speculation starts going full tilt people start to see repetition in the guesses. The repetition can lead to reinforcement, and reinforcement to expectation. Expectation leads to disapointment if the initial guess was off the mark. It's all fun and games until someone forgets what happens when he pisses in the wind (or for you lady's ou tthere, squatting in bushes without first looking for poision ivy) Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hortlund Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Originally posted by aka_tom_w: I think this means he is telling us the first Game and Module on CMx2 WON'T be Normandy or the Bulge for example. IMHO -tom w I agree that it could be interpreted that way. However I am so convinced it will be Normandy, that I dismiss that statement as a maskirovka. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Originally posted by Leutnant Hortlund: I agree that it could be interpreted that way. However I am so convinced it will be Normandy, that I dismiss that statement as a maskirovka. So it is going to be set in Russia then judging by the terminology. :confused: Regards Jim R. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Of course, based on Steve's statement, I predict it will be "Sticks and Stones: The Epic Struggle of Cro-Magnon versus Neanderthal". BF.C will then release updates in chronological order... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Originally posted by Battlefront.com: When the rest of the world starts buying (as opposed to pirating) more than 51% of the games that we developers make, then we'll talk For now the US game market is about 2-4 times larger than the rest of the world combined. [/QB]OWNED 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I still think it will be a World War 2 setting. My main reason for believing this is that I think it would be smart for BF.C to keep the current fanbase into it and ease them into other conflicts. That being said, Steve, please feel free to release Combat Mission: Manassas to Appomatoxas the first game. But seriously, it doesn't matter where the game is first set, I'll buy the damn thing the moment I have the chance. I have that much faith that BF.C will be releasing a great wargame. If it doesn't start in WW2 then I am sure that it eventually will end there, sooner than later. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomm Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 EVEN if it was a WW II setting, I still think they could sneak in some mini-guns! After all, Gatling guns were invented well before WW II! I am thinking Market/Garden with C47 gunships here! What? No you say??!? As an Easter egg maybe?!?! [insert Taser Sound here] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtweasle Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Originally posted by V: Is it possible to get tired of WW2? (assuming you are not living through it, of course.) Yes. Have not played a CM turn in a couple months now, though the recent CMAK mods, and these discussions have rekindled some interest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Between CM and the other WWII games out there I'm reminded of a comment I overheard regarding the long-running TV show 'MASH'. A show about a mobile medical unit during a three year war that never moved and went for a full ten years! This really doesn't apply to the whole CM franchise due to its vast scope (how can you run out of Eastern Front battles to fight?). But alll those Normandy games (shooter games, board games, wargames, etc.) are starting to feel like they're all treading the same well-worn path. If they stick to N.W. Europe it would be a very happy change to see "Liberation of Paris" or "Champagne Campagne" as a title. One might be heavy in city fighting, the other maneuver warfare. Sure, most of the scenarios would probably be indistinguishable from any other NW Europe game (allies approach; hidden Panther, etc.) but it would at least get us out of the outskirts of Villers-freakin'-Bocage. ...Not that our opinions will have a great deal to do with the outcome. They'll do whatever they decide will be fun and can make money in the process - and maybe stand out from the rest of the pack. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 They can't do late war as there will not be enough Horses to model, they could probably find a few Running Bren Tripods though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pak40 Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 It seems like some of you are willing to wait out the first game in favor of the modules if you don't like the setting. I, however, always assumed that the modules would require the original game. 1000 pardons if this has already been clarified by BFC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Bijlsma Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 Originally posted by Pak40: It seems like some of you are willing to wait out the first game in favor of the modules if you don't like the setting. I, however, always assumed that the modules would require the original game. 1000 pardons if this has already been clarified by BFC. Yes you would need the original game to play the module. This sorta looks like something I said. What I meant was this: I will download the demo of "More US army stuff involving the 101st", probably enjoy it and then go dum-di-dum right up until they announce the plans for the CW module. Then I'll play the "More US army stuff involving the 101st" game to tide me over until the CW module is released. But prior to that news, a sale is looking unlikely. It'd have to be a pretty spectacular demo for me to buy the game without a announcement of a subject of interest in the near(ish) future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KG_SSpoom Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 CMBP Combat Mission Black Powder. :cool: :cool: :cool: Starting with Waterloo campain next Module is ACW "Lee Invades" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 . pirating Steve [/QB]You heard it from the horse's mouth. The next game will be Combat Mission: Pirates! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Bolt Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 1st Module: American Civil War 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt. Ryan Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 Combat Mission: 20th Maine Saves the Day at Elsborn Ridge 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Bijlsma Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 Didn't they say a Lobsters of Doom type game was in the top 5? Hence I'm changing by vote to: CM2:Battle for Hoth! After BFC got talking with Lucasarts about the name of their Star Wars game (Battlefront) Lucas Arts decided that the Star Wars universe needs a hardcore ground combat sim to complement their franchise. And BFC, seeing the lengths of the Star Wars and LotR threads agreed their grogs have ample geekiness to make it an attractive project for them. Star Wars Combat Mission? Come on, you know you want it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtz Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 Star Wars? Ewoks destroying armoured vehicles with logs? The horror! The horror! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stikkypixie Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 You're looking at it the wrong way...now's your chance to masacre ewoks with armoured vehicles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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