ARRPEEGEE Posted April 6, 2003 Share Posted April 6, 2003 Italy, etc, all should work OK as the engine is now, although some of the Gothic line fights might look a little funny, but, for North Africa, I think some extra concerns need looking at: a)LOS-the prospect of entrenched defenders mowing down countless compaies of attackers over 'flat' terrain with no LOS block dosen't sound too fun at all..I'd like to see improvements in terrain cover, at least to model slight breaks or rises in terrain, and those dust clouds better be LOS blocks, too! Wrecked armor and alive armor would be good to act as LOS blocks and cover, but..don't see it happening. b)digging in-I'd like to see a new approach to improved positions, as was mentioned before with gun pits, etc..one other big improvement would be dug positions for vehicles that are exitable, or drive up and fire positions.. c)This one gets it's own category: 88's fire from the mount, and are semi-mobile for a change! This one looks small, but, is just too important to pass up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
li Posted April 6, 2003 Share Posted April 6, 2003 Vehicles making dust could help infentry close with an enemy. Infantry having thier morale bolstered near vehicles might also help. Infantry must seek dips, low points, reverse slopes as cover. The game, as is, does not do this very well. Pinning should be the most common result to firepower. arty making dust could help suppress defenders troops should head towards HQs when under duress. positioning HQs intelligently would then make for realistic conditions. The AI might be programmed to do this also. HQs with stars would then 'suck-in' more stragglers. Troops with 'black-lines' would break, rout, run, the same as they are modeled now in CMBB/CMBO. sun in the eyes might be modeled. LOS could be angle biased. This means, LOS in a certain direction (angle from above) would be shorter than in other directions. Spotting and identification is then reduced for a defender looking into the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Posted April 6, 2003 Share Posted April 6, 2003 Originally posted by li: sun in the eyes might be modeled. LOS could be angle biased. This means, LOS in a certain direction (angle from above) would be shorter than in other directions. Spotting and identification is then reduced for a defender looking into the sun. Even better if time of day was taken into account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Determinant Posted April 6, 2003 Share Posted April 6, 2003 Originally posted by li: Infantry must seek dips, low points, reverse slopes as cover. The game, as is, does not do this very well. Pinning should be the most common result to firepower.Oh. I thought that it already taught that remarkably well. And certainly my experience is that being pinned down is very common when I advance my little guys over open ground into firepower. The challenge, at least in North Africa, will be to find those small folds in the ground in what looks mostly like a pool table. Can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted April 6, 2003 Share Posted April 6, 2003 Originally posted by mch: ... a)LOS-the prospect of entrenched defenders mowing down countless compaies of attackers over 'flat' terrain with no LOS block dosen't sound too fun at all...Instead of asking for wholesale code-rewrites you could, of course, try out the actual solution(s) that was developed during the war ... Regards JonS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauCoupDinkyDau Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 WHA?! I'm gone for two days to find this!!? SCH-WEET!!! What a great gift from me to me for X-mas. Now my question is: Will Russian, French, and German players boycot this since it depicts 'mericans in the desert in combat? I wonder if we'll find the Nazi weapons of mass destruction in any of the game's scenarios? You know I'm just playing with you fellas. Right? . . .Fellas? . . . [ April 06, 2003, 06:46 PM: Message edited by: Vader's Jester ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coe Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 well it'd be kinda neat to see a Panther VG or a King Tiger go up against a Crusader or a Matilda or even a Grant (already tried King Tiger's vs. Stuarts in CMBO). Just imagine plinking away at the King Tiger with a 2 pounder or that is if the King Tiger doesn't run out of fuel just trying to make it to the front-line..... hmmm, I wonder if we'll be able to do tank recovery under fire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coe Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 admittedly it'll be nice to actually be able to damage things at slightly longer rangers with the door knockers and 50mm. Ahh them short barrelled PzIVEs..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalin's Organ Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Originally posted by Vader's Jester: WHA?! I'm gone for two days to find this!!? SCH-WEET!!! What a great gift from me to me for X-mas. Ditto! Now a couple of points - someone mentioned "there were a few Greeks in Crete" - well there were thousands actually - 3 regiments in the Maleme and Galatas sectors, 3 in the Suda Sector, 2 in hte Herakliion sector - 9000 in all. Of course most were poorly equipped and ill-trained - but they were there! And if Crete then why not Greece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
li Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Originally posted by Determinant: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by li: Infantry must seek dips, low points, reverse slopes as cover. The game, as is, does not do this very well. Pinning should be the most common result to firepower.Oh. I thought that it already taught that remarkably well. And certainly my experience is that being pinned down is very common when I advance my little guys over open ground into firepower. The challenge, at least in North Africa, will be to find those small folds in the ground in what looks mostly like a pool table. Can't wait! </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxx Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Australians and Kiwis in Combat Mission, hmmm.... most fascinating, now put another shrimp on the barbi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Balaban Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 I have been waiting for a game like CMAK for 30 years ever since I bought Tobruk from AH. Bully for BTS :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie the Toad Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 coe, Yes you hit on one of my favorites, the PZlV with the L/24 short barreled 75mm and I believe a couple of medium mgs. In other wargames I have played, a very potent unit vs infantry. I still hope they go back to the BO camera angles. Won't let that one go..... Toad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 A bit late to the party, but Woo Hoo. My favorite theator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisbech_lad Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 As long as you get the ranks correct in the Indian Army, I'm happy And turbans for the Sikh regiments please, as shown by the photo of Sikhs in the desert... http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Images2/0409.jpg Sepoys, jawans, havildars, naiks oh my. von Armin surrendered to the Indian army in the end. Jai Hind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Originally posted by Wisbech_lad: As long as you get the ranks correct in the Indian Army, I'm happy And turbans for the Sikh regiments please, as shown by the photo of Sikhs in the desert... http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Images2/0409.jpg Sepoys, jawans, havildars, naiks oh my. von Armin surrendered to the Indian army in the end. Jai Hind! Could you list them thar links for the benefit of the board? I have a couple of listings, but the correct spellings conflict between sources... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Now remember having Sikhs would require dedicated faces for them. Per their religion they cannot shave their beards. MikeT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisbech_lad Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Ranks.html Here you go. Note the difference between cavalry regiments (sowar/daffadar/risaldar) and infantry (sepoy/naik/havildar/subedar) Complicated because of the existance of VCO/JCO ranks. So, in the British army, a Lt would lead a platoon, in the Indian army, a Lt (or Captain) leads a company, with VCO's (now JCO's) leading platoons As they say, Jemadar was an alternate for naib risaldar/subedar during WW2 It is the best site on the Indian army I know. Interesting links from it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Originally posted by Wisbech_lad: http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Ranks.html Here you go. Note the difference between cavalry regiments (sowar/daffadar/risaldar) and infantry (sepoy/naik/havildar/subedar) Complicated because of the existance of VCO/JCO ranks. So, in the British army, a Lt would lead a platoon, in the Indian army, a Lt (or Captain) leads a company, with VCO's (now JCO's) leading platoons As they say, Jemadar was an alternate for naib risaldar/subedar during WW2 It is the best site on the Indian army I know. Interesting links from it as well. THANKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Lucke Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Originally posted by Stalin's Organ: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Vader's Jester: WHA?! I'm gone for two days to find this!!? SCH-WEET!!! What a great gift from me to me for X-mas. Ditto! Now a couple of points - someone mentioned "there were a few Greeks in Crete" - well there were thousands actually - 3 regiments in the Maleme and Galatas sectors, 3 in the Suda Sector, 2 in hte Herakliion sector - 9000 in all. Of course most were poorly equipped and ill-trained - but they were there! And if Crete then why not Greece? </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Originally posted by laxx: Australians and Kiwis in Combat Mission, hmmm.... most fascinating, now put another shrimp on the barbi. Nah. No need to bother with the New Zealanders. After all, they were simply bit players and can more than adequately be represented by Aussies. Besides, who would want to have that strange accent on their hard drives where the phrase "enemy at six hundred metres" would have to be "inemy ut sux hindred metres" :confused: Regards Jim R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thin Red Line Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Thank you BFC, this is great news ! I sincerely hope the French (The foreign Legion esp.) will be included. For historical accuracy purposes. Regards N [ April 07, 2003, 04:07 AM: Message edited by: Thin Red Line ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screeny Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 WHAAOAOOAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is it the 4th quarter of 2004 allready??? No??? AAARGHHHHH Very very cool!!!! gr Screeny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertram Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Dorosh!! I want my ROW Xmass turn!!! Bertram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou2000 Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 ..Snip..... Besides, who would want to have that strange accent on their hard drives where the phrase "enemy at six hundred metres" would have to be "inemy ut sux hindred metres" :confused: Regards Jim R. [/QB]G'day Jim LoL ... an Aussie talking about strange accents.. ..... Just a reminder to all Aussie's, Kiwi's, Yank's and Canuk's ... you ALL speak ENGLISH with an accent ... we on the other hand just speak English ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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