Sequoia Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Doug, if any force gets added to the Western Front Families that's not already there I would hope it would be the Free French. Perhaps the work on CM:FI RtV would make that easier. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts4EVER Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Definitely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 23 hours ago, BFCElvis said: Outraged? That is the easiest one of them all. I can say with 100% certainty, and without even going back to the 2002 forums, that there were some people who were outraged when CMBB came out. Yup, I remember it well. As an Eastern Front fanatic I was a bit miffed that Western Front people, who just had their turn with CMBO, thought Combat Mission should be limited to just Western Front stuff. Then we got people ticked off at us again with CMAK because, once again, they thought we were wasting our time with things that didn't interest them. And when we announced the first title of CM2 Engine would be modern... that really brought out all the love and understanding from the Western Front fans. At least this time they had company because the Eastern Front fans were upset, as were all the ones who wanted us to do 1940 or PTO. I dunno, maybe I'm remembering things all wrong and in fact our customers were uniformly open minded, happy-go-lucky people who never showed a hint of passionate or opinionated disapproval of anything we did. Maybe I should spend time looking through old threads to find out? Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I certainly remember the initial CMBN screenshot of a Tiger Tank and the uproar it caused. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadepm Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I don't remember any of that anti-CMBB stuff, thank goodness. I do remember being at Rune's house for a pre-release party (remember those?) and everyone there thought it was the coolest thing ever. A little selection bias maybe, but still... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 Oh for sure the majority of negativity expressed towards CMBB and CMAK were the usual "I wish they would make the game I want, but such is life" sort of thing. There were few who really got bothered by it, but there were very heated debates about why the person making a point was so obviously right and the person opposing it was so obviously wrong. You don't have to look very far back, or hard, to see that sort of thing here on these Forums. Especially between the Eastern Front and Western Front super fans. The Eastern Front folks think there is no other front more worthy of attention for 10 zillion reasons (I agree with 9 zillion of them, BTW!), the Western Front folks have their 10 zillion reasons why their favorite place is the best (I'd give them 8 out of 10 zillion). The supporters of other areas of personal interest (PTO, Italy, Crete, North Africa, etc.) might not have 10 zillion reasons in a debate, but they have more than a couple (of which a few are pretty good). I've even seen the odd person here or there try to make the case that an obscure chapter in WW2 era, like Abyssinia (I remember someone saying we should focus on that!) is more interesting than the more popular ones. Maybe they have a point or two, but as an old saying goes... if you put a monkey in front of a typewriter long enough... The point is these sorts of debates happen in wargame forums. And they happen frequently, often passionately. At least here they are generally kept civil. Sometimes by brute force Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 By the way Steve, about never wanting to cram as much into a module again as you did with Rome to Victory - didn't you say that about CMBB as well? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said: At least here they are generally kept civil. Sometimes by brute force Steve A man after my own heart. When it comes to keeping things civil with brute force, I do have just a bit of previous. Edited January 11, 2020 by Warts 'n' all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 yeah someone is having a bad day, maybe he should eat a candy bar or sumfink 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danfrodo Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (So does this mean Fire & Rubble pre-orders are open or not???? ) When they came out w modern stuff I thought "oh, not my favorite, why didn't they do more WW2 first?". then I bought & played SF2. Holy f*&k is that a fun game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadepm Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, danfrodo said: (So does this mean Fire & Rubble pre-orders are open or not???? ) When they came out w modern stuff I thought "oh, not my favorite, why didn't they do more WW2 first?". then I bought & played SF2. Holy f*&k is that a fun game. OK, I'm ordering the SF2 Big Bundle. It's on you if I don't like it... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danfrodo Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Once I got it I didn't play anything else for ~3 months 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadepm Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I circle back in April. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 hours ago, wadepm said: It's on you if I don't like it... You will.....There's just so much stuff in it that the WWII games can't do and believe me, I'm not talking about helicopters & missiles there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 4 hours ago, danfrodo said: (So does this mean Fire & Rubble pre-orders are open or not???? ) When they came out w modern stuff I thought "oh, not my favorite, why didn't they do more WW2 first?". then I bought & played SF2. Holy f*&k is that a fun game. That was my experience after having CMBN and thinking, CMFI? Really? who cares? And now, I love it! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Jack Ripper Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 1/9/2020 at 6:19 PM, Warts 'n' all said: Yawn. Yeah. *sips coffee* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Jack Ripper Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 6:32 PM, Battlefront.com said: I dunno, maybe I'm remembering things all wrong and in fact our customers were uniformly open minded, happy-go-lucky people who never showed a hint of passionate or opinionated disapproval of anything we did. *spits just sipped coffee all over computer monitor* 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn2002 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, General Jack Ripper said: *spits just sipped coffee all over computer monitor* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 hours ago, General Jack Ripper said: *spits just sipped coffee all over computer monitor* I hate having to clean coffee off of my monitor and keyboard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Coffee going up the sinuses into the nose, or on the monitor and keyboard. Ahhh choices are what life is all about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokossovski Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 9:52 PM, Warts 'n' all said: . . . When it comes to keeping things civil with brute force, I do have just a bit of previous. Indeed. Its important to keep one's head when around this fellow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Ah, so that is why Charlie Stewart got Tony Dyke to paint him with three heads. I can't imagine Steve doing the same thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokossovski Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Warts 'n' all said: Ah, so that is why Charlie Stewart got Tony Dyke to paint him with three heads. I can't imagine Steve doing the same thing. Lovely! Now I must have two remaining. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokossovski Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Warts 'n' all said: Ah, so that is why Charlie Stewart [snip]. You may call me: "Charles, by the Grace of God, King of England, Scotland, Scotland, France and Ireland, and Defender of the Faith." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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