MikeyD Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I recall when CMBB came out some CMBO loyalists were enraged. Claimed they would refuse on principle to purchase the game because (and I distinctly recall someone saying this) there were no English speaking voices in the game! My, how things have changed in the intervening eighteen years! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ithikial_AU Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 On 1/4/2020 at 10:17 AM, BFCElvis said: Funny that you mention that. As things started to run longer than everyone (and I mean everyone) expected after the pre-orders for R2V opened some of these awesome scenarios makers started asking "can I add 1 more? I have a great idea and it's almost done." We didn't say no to any of them and they ended up being fantastically fun to play. For those playing them, they are "One Final Effort"... One Final Effort - I had some fun designing up a purely fictional encounter and the flexibility that came with it. I decided to throw limitations on ammunition/supply, which is narratively feasible for the last weeks of the war but is also a challenge for players that we don't tend to see much of in CM scenarios. Good to see that little quirk caught a tester or two on the hop. If anyone is taking a shot at this one don't fret about being the defender. Has it's own unique challenges. 1 hour ago, Battlefront.com said: But for more Grog types there's something else, I think. Starting with Combat Mission Barbarossa to Berlin the Soviet stuff was finally given some dimension to it. No longer was playing the Soviets a matter of having bigger stacks of inferior units to push across the board, then watching them melt away in combat. Nope, there was the ability to really see that the Soviet forces had interesting tactical possibilities and that it was possible to beat a German foe (or totally squash an Axis Minor force) unit for unit. Even better, the Soviet player had a chance of experiencing "hero" units that showed some personality. Other games followed CMBB's example since then. CMBB came out just during my first year of University and it just so happened that my first year's grades weren't exactly the best. Thanks Steve and co. I'm part of the club that misses the Axis Minors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquila-SmartWargames Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) That is an exciting outlook. On 1/1/2020 at 9:08 PM, Battlefront.com said: CM Red Thunder Battle Pack. A bunch of battles for the late Summer 1944 time period was started a while back and is now moving forward again. In case the CMRT Battlepack becomes an option, is it planned to include campaigns? Edited January 6, 2020 by Aquila-CM 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I'd expect it to have at least two campaigns.....One for each side. Judging by the number of very large 'master' type maps we've seen, there could be more (and there's so much potential to make them, if they haven't been made already). I can't wait to get @benpark's awesome Berlin map into the editor.....Preferably in CM:BS! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn2002 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, DougPhresh said: You hardly ever see "Mein Oppa was just defending his Fatherland, and Following Orders, and Both Sides Were Bad." anymore and while there are still posts about "The Americans only won because of air superiority and artillery" and "Commonwealth Armour was useless, the Germans easy brushed them aside at Caen and Falaise (cue a dozen posts about Michael Wittmann)" and "The Russians only won because of human waves", I think any serious historian and even most people in wargamming or with an interest in the subject would say the better armies won, and credit them for their operational and tactical art. Depends on what you call a 'serious historian'. If by that you mean historians like Beevor, Holland and Citino, who lack much operational and tactical knowledge then yes. If you mean historians like Nash, Reynolds, Hamilton, Glantz, Kershaw and Ian Daglish, then you're dead wrong. Most of these authors have a military background and know what they are talking about. They know how well the Germans fought. Having said that the performance of the British, Americans, Canadians and Russians (and all the others) also deserves a lot of credit. They did win the war after all. It's stupid to belittle anyone who fought. That's an Hollywood invention. It's not a bloody contest who did best overall, it is the biggest massacre of modern history in which all sides gave everything they had. I've recently read a book about the Chosin reservoir 1950. First Marines Division in full retreat. The American veterans who were interviewed in it, didn't sound very different from the Germans. It's war, it's brutal. And afterwards everybody wants to be a hero, who fought against animals. World War 2 is not about the better armies winning, but the bigger economies, hence bigger armies, winning. Same as in World War 1. Edited January 6, 2020 by Aragorn2002 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerKommissar Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) Really excited for 2020, the roadmap looks almost identical to my own internal wishlist. Good to hear UNCONs are coming to RT, and fingers crossed for CM:FB Scheldt campaign. 52 minutes ago, Aragorn2002 said: Depends on what you call a 'serious historian'. If by that you mean historians like Beevor, Holland and Citino, who lack much operational and tactical knowledge then yes. If you mean historians like Nash, Reynolds, Hamilton, Glantz, Kershaw and Ian Daglish, then you're dead wrong. Most of these authors have a military background and know what they are talking about. They know how well the Germans fought. I am surprised that you dismiss Citino so easily. All the lectures I've seen, have been hosted by the US military in US military institutions. I believe he worked at West Point, and other military colleges -- his specialty being Wehrmacht operations. I'd recommend checking out his lectures on youtube, because he talks about how/why Jerry lost WW2. Edited January 6, 2020 by DerKommissar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domfluff Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Is the Reichstag on that Berlin map, or is it *just* off-map to the left? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) I think it may be present.....Possibly represented by the building with gardens with a cross shaped path, near the left centre of the image. Edited January 6, 2020 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougPhresh Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Aragorn2002 said: World War 2 is not about the better armies winning, but the bigger economies, hence bigger armies, winning. Same as in World War 1. It's the same thing. If your economy produces more aircraft, more artillery and more tanks, than you have the better army.Your company commanders don't need tactical brilliance to take a position, they can call on artillery assets your enemy can only dream of, and those artillery batteries have enough ammunition they care fire harassment missions around the clock. The better army has good-enough tanks everywhere instead of perfect tanks somewhere (or broken down). The better army can make road moves in daylight instead of being bombed and strafed between sunrise and sunset. Edited January 6, 2020 by DougPhresh 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danfrodo Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 As Napolean said, something like "quantity has its own quality" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I thought Stalin said that. I think Napoleon said something like "'God is on the side of the bigger battalions". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IICptMillerII Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 11 hours ago, Aragorn2002 said: Depends on what you call a 'serious historian'. If by that you mean historians like Beevor, Holland and Citino, who lack much operational and tactical knowledge then yes. Yeah I have to parrot @DerKommissar on this one. Citino is very highly regarded by the US Army among others, and his book titled “Blitzkrieg to Desert Storm” is in fact a fantastic overview of modern maneuver warfare. I would say Citino is quite well versed in the nuance of at least operational warfare in a WWII and post WWII world. While I’ve read his maneuver warfare book, I have not read any of his books that cover in depth German military operations, strategy and operational art during WWII, but I also know that these works are highly regarded by sources I trust. So again I have to disagree with your claim that he lacks the needed knowledge to discuss/analyze these topics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Please give me a StuG III Ausf D so I can try and make a scenario based on this old image I have... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) There are StuGs and then there are StuGs: All manner of things might be possible in the frantic defence of the fatherland.....But TBH, I wouldn't count on it! Maybe a CM:RT Vehicle Pack? I'd certainly pay for that, especially if it had mine-roller tanks. Edited January 7, 2020 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umlaut Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, kohlenklau said: Please give me a StuG III Ausf D so I can try and make a scenario based on this old image I have... Hi Phil I made this mod for the Stalingrad mod set. It is a StuG IIIG early where I removed the most of the barrel with alpha channels. It should be part of the Stalingrad mod set. Dont know if you can use that? Cheers Here´s the release video: Edited January 7, 2020 by umlaut 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 That's very cool.....Kind of looks like a StuGmorser, but cool nevertheless. The creativity of the followers of these games never fails to impress me. Run out of likes, owe you one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOS:96B2P Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, umlaut said: It is a StuG IIIG early where I removed the most of the barrel with alpha channels. +1 Very cool. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 @umlaut Thanks Dennis. Yes, I remember you did that. I am always willing to use the creative workarounds that folks come up with while impatiently awaiting the legit BFC version... Like here is my amoeba camo...while hoping for BFC to release a version. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffelmann Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 This looks nice! Did you publish this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, waffelmann said: This looks nice! Did you publish this? Thanks waffelman. I can't really remember if I uploaded it. So many years ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMS Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 What's about TO&E, will we get SMG platoons in rifle companies? Any "assault group" formations for urban combat? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewood1 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Why are these update threads always buried in one of the game threads? How about pinning it in the CM general thread and a headline at the top of the forums? It would be nice not to have to dig around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewood1 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 On 1/5/2020 at 11:07 PM, MikeyD said: I recall when CMBB came out some CMBO loyalists were enraged. Claimed they would refuse on principle to purchase the game because (and I distinctly recall someone saying this) there were no English speaking voices in the game! My, how things have changed in the intervening eighteen years! I was one of the first purchasers of CMBB when it came out and followed the forums closely. I sure don't remember any "enraged" posts about language. There was some angst about the eastern front, but even that was pretty muted. I suspect a some beta testers overblow the response to certain things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I distinctly remember them. There were also complaint there were no 'good guys' to root for in the title. Good thing you've got me around to refresh your memory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pintere Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 How many new campaigns/scenarios are projected to be in Fire and Rubble? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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