GreenAsJade Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 How many more times will we read "Oh, it's like that in CMSF"? I don't play CMSF. I don't like CMSF. It doesn't help one bit to say "it's been like that for 3 years in CMSF"... is there some rule that to qualify to play CMBN you have to play CMSF first or somefink? Sorry, I missed the memo... GaJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Okay, it's like this in CMA... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseltaylor Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Agree : ) blank space to meet minimum character requirement : ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandur Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 you will hear it A LOT more, i can tell you asking questions that where cleared up years ago will get you "as it was in CMSF" answer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 Yeah I know. It's just irritating. GaJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Funny, there's a thread that explains all this....in the CMSF forum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Williams Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 How many more times will we read "Oh, it's like that in CMSF"? I don't play CMSF. I don't like CMSF. It doesn't help one bit to say "it's been like that for 3 years in CMSF"... is there some rule that to qualify to play CMBN you have to play CMSF first or somefink? Sorry, I missed the memo... GaJ ^^^^^this. The reason I (we) don't know how CMx2 works is we never played/liked/had any interest in CMSF (and sequels). If you can, when we ask questions, if you feel like answering, tell us "Oh, it was like this in CMx1, but in CMx2 you have to do fill-in-the-blank". BFC is going to have a lot of returning CMx1 customers that never played or didn't like CMSF. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeDog Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I see your point. At the same time, it is a bit frustrating when the CMBN forum gets bogged down by innumerable questions about basic gameplay, most of which could be answered by a short trip to the CMSF "tips and tricks" forum. Perhaps the best solution would be for some of us CMSF veterans to compile a "most important things for CMx1 players to know about CMx2" post, and sticky it here. This would reduce some of the post repetition, while still getting people the information they need. I'm probably not the one to initiate this, as I haven't been playing CMSF for the past couple of months because I uninstalled it on the Windows side of my Mac, and I'm waiting for the OSX version. So my CMSF knowledge is a bit rusty... but perhaps someone else who plays both CMSF and CMBN can get things started. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abrams Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Perhaps the best solution would be for some of us CMSF veterans to compile a "most important things for CMx1 players to know about CMx2" post, and sticky it here. This would reduce some of the post repetition, while still getting people the information they need. That would be very helpful ... I am also a WWII CMx1 veteran trying to figure out CMBN CMx2 ... Thanks!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted May 12, 2011 Author Share Posted May 12, 2011 I visited the CMSF Tips and Tricks section. I didn't find it overwhelmingly illuminating. There was some useful information, iterspersed with reams of discussion about weapons etc that I have no familiarty with or interest in. And a read of the T&T section isn't going to pre-answer the basic sorts of "issue questions" that newcomers to CMBN will inevitably have. So we (newcomers) might as well ask the questions, and those that know the answers might as well answer them Then we'll get all the answers into the CMBN forum and get past this phase ASAP. Perhaps the best solution would be for some of us CMSF veterans to compile a "most important things for CMx1 players to know about CMx2" post, and sticky it here. This would reduce some of the post repetition, while still getting people the information they need. I totally agree that this would be a great thing. I don't think it will make the problem go away though GaJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkhorn1x Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I visited the CMSF Tips and Tricks section. I didn't find it overwhelmingly illuminating. There was some useful information, iterspersed with reams of discussion about weapons etc that I have no familiarty with or interest in. Exactly. The nuggets of wisdom are buried under dross. Would be great if BF could pull those out and put them in a sticky on this forum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aka_tom_w Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Exactly. The nuggets of wisdom are buried under dross. Would be great if BF could pull those out and put them in a sticky on this forum. that is a reasonable request 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseltaylor Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I suppose the irritation is compounded as we remained loyal to the true faith, WW2, and these heretics are engaged in a nose-rubbing ceremony. Which is of course disrespectful. We shall beat their arses in RoW VI. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 One problem with old CMx2 veterans giving advice is its become so second nature to us that we don't even realize there might be a question sometimes! Imagine trying to explain how to tie your shoelaces to someone whose never done it before. You're obliged to take a couple steps back to look at what you're doing instinctively before describing to others how its done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJFHutch Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 But so much of it IS the same as in CMSF Imagine people running around asking what "automobiles" are and exclaiming how awesome they are. Just because you chose to live in a [combat mission] cave for the past few years doesn't make old things new 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Joch Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 We shall beat their arses in RoW VI. but we we have 4 more years of "virtual" combat experience..it hardly seems fair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetchez la Vache Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 It's a new game with new players. Part of the fun will be discussing everything again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Education will be handed out one PBEM turn at a time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt. Ryan Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Did you also go straight from Algebra to Calculus without taking Trigonometry? It's kind of like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonm Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 but we we have 4 more years of "virtual" combat experience..it hardly seems fair. And better kit. Leo 2A6 vs Sherman is hardly fair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandur Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 And better kit. Leo 2A6 vs Sherman is hardly fair. no its fair enough there are 10 or more shermans for every Leo2A6. allied´s are used to throwing mass at a problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 It's a new game with new players. Part of the fun will be discussing everything again. I'd go along with this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisND Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 All of this is like it was in CMSF. ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wodin Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Thing is those who played CMSF will be irratated with all the questions that have already been answered before, many a fair while ago...and the same old debates....thats why I'm going to keep clear of the forums...at least until all the old stuff already talked about many times had died down abit. Also if it's like it in CMSF then it's a design decision...aske for new features etc for the coming modules.. Maybe someone from BF should start up a feature request thread... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 We had the same issue when CMBB came out. Believe it or not a lot of people cut their teeth on that game and not on CMBO. So we got hit with a lot of the same questions which CMBO guys had answered years earlier. And to some extent we had this when CM:SF launched and people hadn't played CMx1 of any flavor. We got hit with questions that any CMx1 player wouldn't have asked because it was so familiar to them. I think the best approach is to answer the questions that come up without using CM:SF/CM:A *except* as an additional frame of reference. For example, "I don't understand why this works like this"... "well, in CM:SF it worked a different way, we bitched, it was changed, and we were happier with the newer way". That seems fine to me. If some of you guys want to put together a remade CM:SF/CM:A tips sheet specifically for CM:BN, that would be great. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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