Col Deadmarsh Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 On the Combat Mission YouTube channels, there seem to be a whole lot of people that come over from Company Of Heroes to tell us that their game is better. Has anyone played it and what in your opinion are the differences between the two? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pak40 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I'm not sure how you can compare the two. CM is a realistic combat simulator, and CoH is a typical RTS with base building and where resource gathering is in the guise of capturing territory flags that earn you points to buy more units. Probably CoH is a slicker presentation with smoother gameplay, that's about it's only advantage. There's zero realism - it's a typical RTS where each unit has 'hit points' and can be automatically healed by medics. Specific buildings must be built to build specific units.. typical old school RTS. The game itself is fun if you're into that sort of genre but it can easily get to be a repetitive click fest like any other RTS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wamphyri Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I'm not sure how you can compare the two. CM is a realistic combat simulator, and CoH is a typical RTS with base building and where resource gathering is in the guise of capturing territory flags that earn you points to buy more units. Probably CoH is a slicker presentation with smoother gameplay, that's about it's only advantage. There's zero realism - it's a typical RTS where each unit has 'hit points' and can be automatically healed by medics. Specific buildings must be built to build specific units.. typical old school RTS. The game itself is fun if you're into that sort of genre but it can easily get to be a repetitive click fest like any other RTS. I agree with all of this. I'd just add that graphically CoH is really good looking and that might sway some people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db_zero Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I've played both extensively. Agree with all that's been said. CoH is better if you're into that sort of game. CM is not going to appeal to many due to the complexity and time needed to master the interface. I tried CoH online games years ago and it pretty much boiled down to who could pump out the most units and rush the other side. That and the juvenile nature of the players turned me off. In the end we're really taking about apples and oranges here. I played the Original CoH and both expansions alot-mostly offline. I have the Eastern Front CoH, but hardly touched it. Wargame and red Dragon is sorta the same thing. Looks good and is fun, but not a serious combat simulator and from what I've seen online not really a place I want to be. The Combat Mission h2h crowd on the other hand is much more refined if you ask me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoutPL Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I've played them both as well, each for different reasons. If you are looking for a click fest, adrenaline rush, ending in screams of frustration and pounding of fists, try CoH. If you are looking for a tactical sim that will test your ability to conduct fire and maneuver while you enjoy your ham sandwich with just a touch of Grey Poupon than go for CM. They are so different its even hard to compare them. Essentially CoH could be played with Orcs and Space Marines on distant planets... oh wait a minute... If someone tells you they think CoH rocks and CM sucks, ask them to explain the difference between a 251/9 and a 251/10 and then draw your own conclusions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger73 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 For me, Company of Heroes represented more of a cartoon while Combat Mission presents more of a documentary. Both are games but CoH suspends disbelief for entertainment while CM better simulates my perception of reality. CoH is much prettier but never tripped my trigger. CM has "skin" mods that pretty it up but at the core it stretches my skills of understanding. If one enjoys George Clooney as "Batman", CoH is for you. If you prefer Christian Bale's rendition, I suspect CM is your preferred cup of tea. In my view, preferring one over the other boils down to entertainment as an adrenal rush or intellectual stimulation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Deadmarsh Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm not sure how you can compare the two. CM is a realistic combat simulator, and CoH is a typical RTS with base building and where resource gathering is in the guise of capturing territory flags that earn you points to buy more units. Probably CoH is a slicker presentation with smoother gameplay, that's about it's only advantage. There's zero realism - it's a typical RTS where each unit has 'hit points' and can be automatically healed by medics. Specific buildings must be built to build specific units.. typical old school RTS. The game itself is fun if you're into that sort of genre but it can easily get to be a repetitive click fest like any other RTS. Oh Christ...one of those? I won't even bother downloading the game to check it out. That's about all I need to know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macjimm Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I would suggest that CoH seems to hold peoples attention for a few weeks or months. CM players often continue to play the game for years. I watched several videos of CoH and that was enough exposure for me. The units seems to move very quickly. It had the look and feel of a computer game. CM has the atmosphere of a simulator. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I would suggest that CoH seems to hold peoples attention for a few weeks or months. CM players often continue to play the game for years. 15 years in many cases. Folks won't even give up on the Cmx1 series, though I have long unloaded that from the hard drive. Been playing CMx2 since CMSF release and don't see that slowing down. I have nothing else in the game genre with that kind of longevity. If I die with a mouse in my hand (or whatever we have for an I/O interface) watching my pixeltruppen assault some enemy position.... I'll be smiling even if I am losing. Funny thing, this is the second thread on this. There is another in the CMSF forum. Honestly I had to go on utube to get an idea of what COH is. I now know if it is a free download I still wouldn't bother. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wodin Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 If you want to try a decent tactical wargame then Graviteam tactics is th only other choice really. I hate RTS games bu love this. Not a clickfest at all. Alot more grog like than anything else out there other than CM series. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 With different graphics COH could be a sci fi game. COH is an entertainment product, the CM series is more a simulation aimed at military and history grogs who value realism. Very little overlap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Hunter Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Hopefully in the future BF may turn to an external engine which would give us CoH graphics with CM realism. If they go ahead and buy a license for a 3rd part engine it would allow them to focus more on gameplay and let the engine handle advanced graphics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 ... If you are looking for a click fest, adrenaline rush, ending in screams of frustration and pounding of fists, try CoH. ... To be fair, I get the screams and fist-pounding from CM too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock Tamson Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Men of War Assault Squad 2 is much better than Company of Heroes. Fully destructible terrain, far more tactical complexity, no base building. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Williams Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Men of War Assault Squad 2 is much better than Company of Heroes. Fully destructible terrain, far more tactical complexity, no base building. What about power ups? :-) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 "Hammers and nails, hammers and nails." CoH is fun. The camera is fixed at one position with 3(?) zoom levels. The maps are few. The game is engaging, but is, as mentioned, an RTS click-fest. Capture a fuel point so you can build a tank factory. Spew out some tanks every couple of minutes. Gain points and spend them to upgrade your units. Build more. The maps are divided into zones. Capture a zone and you get more "build" points. It has more in common with pokemon than with CM. Having said that, I've played almost all versions of it. It has its place, as does CM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Skunk Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I really do not see the interest of trying to compare 2 games that have absolutely nothing to do. the magical world of internet and youtube... CM is just the best in its category 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 CM is just the best in its category I'd say it's pretty much the only one in its category. But perhaps I define category too narrowly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Skunk Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'd say it's pretty much the only one in its category.It's true! So it's the best... and the worst 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 "What about power ups? :-)" Yeah, I also miss respawning points as well. Hopefully, BF will get around to those features in CM:WTF. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db_zero Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 As the old saying goes CoH is like the good time, good looking babe you huck and chuck, while Combat Mission is the one you take home to mom and get serious with. Speaking of a good time without getting serious this one looks like fun. I like naval games and there are not to many of them out there: http://www.battlefleetgame.com/bf2.html I have Men of War Assault Squad on Steam, but its not installed. I may have to take another look. I also have Order of War, but haven't touched that in years. Is Men of War 2 the Viet-Nam one? I heard that was insanely hard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z1812 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Aside from them both being set in WW2 I see no similarities or basis for comparision. Canned sandwich meat (COH) is meat and so is a good steak(CM). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosseau Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Cross-platformers like Battlefleet make me nervous, but there is a dearth of naval games, barring Steam & Iron which is WWI and pretty hardcore. I just don't get the whole RTS tank rush crowd. The modus is always the same. Now, CoH turn-based, that might be nice. But CMx2 is nicest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holman Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Cross-platformers like Battlefleet make me nervous, but there is a dearth of naval games, barring Steam & Iron which is WWI and pretty hardcore. Command: Modern Air / Naval Operations from Matrix is a realistic and full-featured evolution of the old Harpoon paradigm. The developers have demonstrated a really impressive level of support and improvement since release. They seem committed to detail and fidelity and the same way BTS is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db_zero Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 WW1 doesn't interest me. In the 90's you have companies like Microprose and SSI put out some great WW2 naval games. Sine their demise nobody has really taken up the bat tan. I would love to see a modern remake of Task Force 1942 or 1942 as well as SSI's GNB series. I took a look at Command: Modern Air/Naval Operations but took a pass. When you're going to charge that much money I expect something more than 1990 style graphics. If Combat Mission can put a decent face on a serious simulation there is no excuse why CMNO can't especially given the fact they charge $30-40 more. I'm willing to pay premium prices-I forked out $125 for Steel Beasts, but when you charge a premium price, I expect a premium product. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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