JulianJ

1. In the operations of war, where there are in the field a thousand swift chariots, as many heavy chariots, and a hundred thousand mail-clad soldiers, with provisions enough to carry them a thousand li, the expenditure at home and at the front, including entertainment of guests, small items such as glue and paint, and sums spent on chariots and armor, will reach the total of a thousand ounces of silver per day. Such is the cost of raising an army of 100,000 men.
2. When you engage in actual fighting, if victory is long in coming, then men’s weapons will grow dull and their ardor will be damped. If you lay siege to a town, you will exhaust your strength.
3. Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain.
4. Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardor damped, your strength exhausted and your treasure spent, other chieftains will spring up to take advantage of your extremity. Then no man, however wise, will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue.
5. Thus, though we have heard of stupid haste in war, cleverness has never been seen associated with long delays.
6. There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare....
 

What I noticed in TOC is that one didn't see the roadblocks until on had eyes on the location.  So, one could simulate a Mogadishu situation since... until one arrived at a particular road one would not see it was impassable.  Then one would have to backtrack and seek a new route - similar to what happened in RL.
Also, there is much fun in playing a scenario that is based on a RL event, but doesn't have to slavishly try to recreate it.  I see Op Anaconda and Black Hawk Down more as inspirations for "stories" that could be better than the RL events.  Rather like how some books are completely changed when turned into a movie and thus improved. 

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Also Syrian Air Force and some toys like ZSU-23-4 Shilka and ZU-23-2, on pickup, are coming with NATO module.
https://www.battlefront.com/shock-force-2/cmsf2-nato-module/?tab=toe
 
In fact, to summarize, each module is complementary, there is no best.
 
 
 

So, is there a fix for this bug coming at some point? It's been well over a year since this has first been reported. 🤔

Mature? I hope you are not accusing me of being mature. I take that very badly....I am always in touch with my Inner Child. It's the Outer Adult I have difficulty with. 😉
 

Mature? I hope you are not accusing me of being mature. I take that very badly....I am always in touch with my Inner Child. It's the Outer Adult I have difficulty with. 😉
 

Mature? I hope you are not accusing me of being mature. I take that very badly....I am always in touch with my Inner Child. It's the Outer Adult I have difficulty with. 😉
 

I just finished task for thunder on Iron mode and now I am starting the USMC campaign, also on iron.  I hope it has core forces with losses that carry forward...
As for my name - I used it in an online player vs. player game called Mount and Blade Warband as well as in a MMORPG called Vanguard: Saga of Heroes back in the 2014 era. I had a clan called The Murder Herd and we would corner solo players and give them the choice often shouting "the Murder Herd, Join or die.....?! I guess you could say it was role playing experience where you could pretend to be bat **** crazy - we would roll into the towns 15 strong and slaughter everyone and then take all their stuff. I also used the name Matriarch of the Herd.

There are 2007 Kurds and there are 2017 Kurds and they're quite different beasts. Around 2007 I think they'd still qualify as 'neighborhood guys with guns', or maybe a step above. 2017 timeframe they're a fully equipped proxy army. So would your scenario be 2007 Kurds vs al Qaeda or 2017 Kurds vs ISIS?
For ammo there's always army supply trucks full of acquireables. I was going to suggest you include supply trucks then select 'dismounted' to disburse the acquireables but I forgot CMSF2 doesn't have the 'dismounted' feature.
For uncon with heavy weapons, I just down did a test. Swapped out Syrian Reserves uniform textures for combatants. The fit isn't perfect but its close enough for rock and roll. Or you can simply include the green fatigued reserves as better equipped Kurds.
 

It is at the front end of the editor in the Data Section right at the bottom 'Force versus Force' - select Red vs Red when you want to pick Red forces for both sides.  If you want to pick Blue force elements for one side go back to that screen and change it to Blue vs Red or if you want Blue equipment for both sides pick Blue vs Blue.  Once you've got the bits and pieces you need you can change the settings back to whatever you want them to be.

The CMSF base game is still $60, the big bundle is $125.
If $125 is too steep at the moment (and you don't have the original CMSF which can be upgraded for as little as $15) you can always buy the base game now & then the module bundle for $90 (you will likely end up buying all the modules)... it'll be a little bit more expensive overall but will allow you to start playing sooner.
@Erwin isn't far wrong about the content available... I estimated there were around 800 scenarios & almost 50 CMSF campaigns (all playable in CMSF2) & that was before CMSF2 was released.
And as @mjkerner & @MOS:96B2P mentioned the Heaven & Earth 'open beta' (due very soon) will come with yet more content (2 campaigns & around 20 individual scenarios... over 40 scenarios overall, with more to come).
I doubt it's even possible to play all the content available (although @Aquila-SmartWargames seems to be trying to prove me wrong).

I must say about the above debate, that it was of such high quality, with people quoting reference papers, rather than half-remembered stories from some German general's memoirs. To summarise, if your logistics organisation cannot bring what you need to fight from the railhead to the front lines, it doesn't matter how brilliant your soldiers or generals are. QED.

So true JulianJ.

That's odd. I read some of the Correlli Barnett books  years ago. There are four on the decline of british power over 100 years. I think I've read three. I disagree with his political perspective. @BluecherForwardI just added them to my Amazon wishlist this week. Long out of print but reissued on kindle; what a  coincidence.
On great military museums,  Bovington is excellent.  Especially Tiger Day, to see 131 moving in the arena. You do need to book up in advance -it gets sold out. Sunshine, drinking beer and AFVs - a pleasure. 
I also recommend IWM Duxford in Cambridgeshire (as mentioned) which has AFVs as well as aircraft. The US Aircrew memorial I found very moving. I don't want to say any more because if you go there it is a surprise which gives you a chilly recognition about the sacrifices they made.

I think I can say with some level of certainty that cooking rice was not essential in securing a Soviet victory.

Michael E - "what other choices did the Germans have besides packing up and going home?"
 
The economists have determined that everything the Germans extracted in the Ukraine by force during the occupation only came to about the same amount they imported from the region in the previous period of cooperation between the USSR and Germany, which they had paid for with high valued goods of their own.  All the draconian requisitioning at gunpoint only got what they could have gotten voluntarily with a few expensive cameras and some higher end electrical equipment, that fetched fancy prices in terms of cheap, commodity grain.  That's how stupid force is compared to voluntary cooperation via trade.
 
Just saying.  Evil and ruthless doesn't mean efficient.  It mostly means stone cold dumb.  

A long-ago debunked myth. The requirement to make the Me 262 a fighter-bomber delayed its combat introduction by mere weeks, not months or years. It was always the engines that were the weak point in the design. 

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*****"I do not happen to agree with these statements..... "*****

but your reaction just proves the point. Imagine if you are a Russian citizen sitting in Moscow and your grandfather died in the Great Patriotic War, your aunt starved to death in the Siege of Leningrad and Stalin's OPGU shot your brother for a mis-spoken word and then some Yankee or Brit comes along and says "We won the war 'cos we have more money than you and we were able to send you over some beans to help you out. You should be really grateful to us."

The point I am making is that the argument that 'Lend Lease won the war' is immensely disrespectful to the suffering of the Soviet peoples. Remember that for every US soldier (or British soldier or civilian) who died in WW2 - 16 Soviet Military men died and 40 Soviet civilians died.

I often wondered about repayment from the Soviet Union after the war, being as the two counties quickly became enemies. Found this little bit interesting :

"While repayment of the interest free loans was required after the end of the war under the act, in practise the US did not expect to be repaid by the USSR after the war, it received $2m in reverse lend lease supplies from the USSR mostly in the form of landing, servicing and refueling of air freight although some industrial machinery along with rare minerals were supplied. The US asked for $1.3bn at the cessation of hostiliities to settle the debt but was only offered $170m by the USSR, the dispute remained unresolved until in 1972 the US accepted an offer from the USSR to repay $722m linked to grain shipments from the USA with the remainder being written off. During the war the USSR provided an unknown number of shipments of rare minerals to the US Treasury as a form of cashless rerepayment of Lend-Lease supplies agreed before the signing of the first protocol on 1 October 1941 and extension of credit, some of these shipments were intercepted by the Germans the light cruiser HMS Edinburgh was sunk in May 1942 carrying 4.5 tonnes of gold to the US Treasury meanwhile the steamer Port Nicholson was sunk in June 1942 while sailing from Halifax, Canada to New York while carrying $43m in platinum (worth $3bn in today's prices) along with 10 tonnes of gold and industrial diamonds." -Albert L. Weeks, Russia's Life-Saver: Lend-Lease Aid to the U.S.S.R. in World War II, 2004 New York, Lexington

Lets go find those ships fast! Who can scuba dive?

edit: Seems they have been salvaged already. Dang there goes my get rich quick scheme of the day.

Братская могила на шестерых more like... six brothers' grave.

I just found this pro-Houthi Yemeni battle vid channel   
I have watched several videos and the Houthis v the Saudis and their allies would make really good scenarios for CM2. (I realise making games out of other peoples' misery is in pretty bad taste. I do find it hard to reconcile my wargamery side with my humanitarian ethos sometimes). Amazing rocky terrain - ideal for irregulars.
 
NOTE: these videos are from the Houthi side - they indicate their soldiers with green arrows and the enemy (Saudi irregulars?) with red. I think these are total eye-openers. It would be interesting if anyone on the forum can understand Arabic, as the commentary would no doubt be enlightening but I cannot understand it.

NOTE 2: I have heard, but have no corroborating evidence, that the Saudi army can't get any decent soldiers - so  has to rely on desperate people, eg Pakistani poor. The only reliable units are held back against insurrection. Certainly if I was a Saudi tankman trained on an M1A2, and then sent into battle with a T55 I suspect my morale might have a negative modifier. 
This channel's battle footage shows the Houthis being brave and competent against a what I can only describe as a pitiful, unprofessional enemy. Yet there is a truly astonishing amount of arms, ammo and equipment that the Houthis are capturing intact - it's like being in dusty aladdin's caves of war materiel. See for yourself. At around the 9 min mark 15-20 lightly damaged armoured vehicles and about a dozen softskins including a Grad MRL truck are abandoned by the side of the  road.  I'd guess most of them are repairable. If a Western battalion or brigade let this amount of vehicles fall into enemy hands it would be called a major defeat, wouldn't it?

Aquila could probably do it with one hand tied behind his back.  The guy's a friggin genius.

In my day job I cover Yemen once a week ...
Southfront is mostly sourced from pro-Houthi media such as the example below:
https://english.almasirah.net/details.php?es_id=11132&cat_id=1
The title gives a slight clue as to how objective the reporting is.
This site doesn't cover things day by day but if you want an objective view about things then look here:
https://sanaacenter.org/
Go here for a one-stop shop for research links that are more objective:
https://sanaacenter.org/publications/main-publications/8569
If you can wait until April (when I'm back at work next) I can flick you a word document with a heap of links.
In the meantime - and this is a top tip for someone in my trade is to check here:
https://reliefweb.int/country/yem
UN Special Envoy is always worth a look if you want to know the top level stuff:
https://twitter.com/OSE_Yemen?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
Humanitarian, the UN and NGO sites are good pointers for what is really happening in a troubled country.
Bottom line - 90% of reporting about combat in Yemen is biased from easily found websites.
 
 

Wow, this is good stuff, Julian. Thanks!