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Taranis Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 16 hours ago, Maciej Zwolinski said: My inference from the same facts was exactly the opposite, that they are using all those wheeled vehicles as battle taxis and therefore they will be used dismounted for the breaching phase of the operation. We will see. I would have imagined at least 2 artillery battalions and a full battalion of tanks for this kind of action. The fact that they depend on the National Guard (which has a role of "police" and "cleaning") is also to be taken into account I think. All we really have to do is wait. If you find any source etc about them, I'll be interested! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAZmaj Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Nice! Ukraine gets US-made ADM-160 decoys https://defence-blog.com/ukraine-gets-us-made-adm-160-decoys/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zinz Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 4 hours ago, dan/california said: I don't know the answer to the question now, but I will bet a lot of money little expendable robot dogs are going to be a thing 3 hours ago, kimbosbread said: A robot snake would be way better (ur-77 but 1m long) but all of these things really depend on decent artifical muscles existing. More realistic is a remote control barbie corvette with a gopro, mr hanky plush and a brick of explosive and some ball bearing riding shotgun driving down the trench. To be looking at those videos as a mechanical engineer having anything on the ground with all the rubble, mud, dead people would be extremely difficult to move around. You actually see the solution to this problem in the video. Deliver enough explosives from the top to break the bunker. An automatic grenade launcher to deliver a couple dozen grenades on top of the bunker would have cracked that one wide open. There are other means of delivering explosives. In another video they are throwing whole bags with explosives on a position and detonating them with wires. The other alternative is to have a precision weapon. The attack would have looked very veery different with a dozen of hand grenade drones flying into the Russian bunker. I mean for this situation a flight time of 2 minutes would be enough already, but would give the opportunity to deliver drones precisely into holes or around corners. Hell even 5 mavics on rotation dropping a grenade every minute would have been enough to kill all Russians at this location. For the price of one walking dog or snake you could produce hundreds of short range suicide drones. I mean even in world war II the Germans experimented with remote controlled vehicles. But so far no viable solution was found to deliver explosives on the ground in such an environment. And frankly I believe there never will. Just use the air. It is so so much easier to precisely deliver your cargo. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardiebloke Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Possibly taken out of context but I reckon it's plausible. RU soldiers being delivered to a treeline with regular trucks, not even up-armored mad max ones. I thought RU had a zillion BMPs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 9 hours ago, Artkin said: A 5km front is not a lot for a single brigade. If you're using two brigades for the 5km - that's a lot of targets in a small location. That what developing now around Bakhmut is not classical WWII offensive operation with tactical elements not less than battalion or regiment. Despite you hear "3rd assault brigade" or "80th air-assault brigade", etc, indeed this is operation of dozens small pushes of small assault groups on the level of companies under battalion command. Russians in the same way hold multiple dispersed positions of squad/platoon size. So it's not quite coorect to compare this with WWII 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcrof Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 25 minutes ago, zinz said: To be looking at those videos as a mechanical engineer having anything on the ground with all the rubble, mud, dead people would be extremely difficult to move around. You actually see the solution to this problem in the video. Deliver enough explosives from the top to break the bunker. An automatic grenade launcher to deliver a couple dozen grenades on top of the bunker would have cracked that one wide open. There are other means of delivering explosives. In another video they are throwing whole bags with explosives on a position and detonating them with wires. The other alternative is to have a precision weapon. The attack would have looked very veery different with a dozen of hand grenade drones flying into the Russian bunker. I mean for this situation a flight time of 2 minutes would be enough already, but would give the opportunity to deliver drones precisely into holes or around corners. Hell even 5 mavics on rotation dropping a grenade every minute would have been enough to kill all Russians at this location. For the price of one walking dog or snake you could produce hundreds of short range suicide drones. I mean even in world war II the Germans experimented with remote controlled vehicles. But so far no viable solution was found to deliver explosives on the ground in such an environment. And frankly I believe there never will. Just use the air. It is so so much easier to precisely deliver your cargo. I wonder if you you make a short ranged projector for a heavy shaped charge that descends at a steep angle onto a target such as a bunker. The weight of a law but with a bigger bang. You could also add some sophisticated accuracy aids to ensure a hit with what is essentially a one-shot mortar. A big shaped charge landing from above would easily take out a bunker, armoured vehicle or troops in cover and wouldn't need to be super heavy if you accepted a range of 200-300m or so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, FancyCat said: Someone on twitter pointed out Wagner has explicit interest in showing MoD failures, whether or not they are true, Rybar is affiliated with Wagner no? Remember that as RU mil bloggers complain about the retreats. Some Russians have semi-joke conspiracy that "Stalingrad scenario" (collapsed weak flanks and encirclement of main forces inside the city) is a revenge of Shouigu to Prigiozyn. In this vendetta in struggle for (future?) political influence lives of Vanyas don't matter. Edited May 13, 2023 by Haiduk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Intersting hint from guy who involved on nothern flank - I say only one word and that one, who in theme will understand: Berkhivka - Water reservoir or you are already in the village? - Silence for now .... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Troopers of 80th air-assault brigade on seized positions of Russian VDV counterparts in Ivanivskyi forest. On southern flank Ukraine forces have enough shock elements - 3rd assault brigade (at least two battalions), 80th air-assault brigade (at least one batatlion), 24th separate assault battalion "Aydar" of 53rd mech.brigade, volunteer recon battalion "Sonechko" ("Sunny") Yesterday info about 36th marines on northern flank likely was misspeling, probably author of post about "36th brigade" meant 56th mot.inf.brigade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 New strike in Luhansk. Building of former Internal affairs academy was hit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 26 minutes ago, Haiduk said: Some Russians have semi-joke conspiracy that "Stalingrad scenario" (collapsed weak flanks and encirclement of main forces inside the city) is a revenge of Shouigu to Prigiozyn. In this vendetta in struggle for (future?) political influence lives of Vanyas don't matter. The "lives of Vanyas don't matter" seems to be standard in all situations. No conspiracy there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Zeitgeist Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Luhansk strikes are pretty much confirmed Stom Shadow, by now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomm Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Wouldn't molotovs help with those bunker assaults, by means of smoke generation, at the very least? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, Thomm said: Wouldn't molotovs help with those bunker assaults, by means of smoke generation, at the very least? Yes but not so easy to carry into combat and rolling around in combat with them might be a bit too dangerous. Carrying flammable liquid around in glass has some challenges. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_MonkeyKing Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) EDIT: HARMs on stations 3 & 4, and R-73s on stations 5 & 6. Edited May 13, 2023 by The_MonkeyKing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc844 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 12 hours ago, Battlefront.com said: Finally got to watching the last (for now) K2 video of "Cyclops" Thoughts from the pros? Steve An old pro here, *cough*16 years *cough* since I had my uniform on. Time flies. We were always taught grenade or grenades, then straight in, over battlesights, single shots, one left, one right, sweep arcs, third man down the middle. All dependant of size and what your assaulting obviously. Good example is the video of the grenadier guards in Helmand. However we did know of an excellent way of clearing bunkers that were tight, confined with little airflow. Smoke grenades. Bang one of them in and I can honestly say from experience that you can not breath, instant oxygen deprivation. You will either come running out with your lungs screaming or stay inside and be incapacitated to some degree. Very effective. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huba Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, hcrof said: I wonder if you you make a short ranged projector for a heavy shaped charge that descends at a steep angle onto a target such as a bunker. The weight of a law but with a bigger bang. You could also add some sophisticated accuracy aids to ensure a hit with what is essentially a one-shot mortar. A big shaped charge landing from above would easily take out a bunker, armoured vehicle or troops in cover and wouldn't need to be super heavy if you accepted a range of 200-300m or so. There's going to be a moment when these quadcopters that record all the videos will start being equipped with laser designators. One can be carried by the assault team as well. Have a 120mm/81mm mortar on standby firing laser-guided projectiles (or a 155mm, or 70m rocket launcher or...) and the impact on fight like this will be tremendous. All the pieces to make it work are already there. Edited May 13, 2023 by Huba 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 12 hours ago, Battlefront.com said: Thoughts from the pros? My father was still spitting blood ten years after entering a house, thought it was ok after a grenade. I am not a pro lol. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pintere Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) Duplicate Edited May 13, 2023 by pintere 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beleg85 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) Something bad fo Russians is happening in Bryanks region- aviation there is falling down like ducks. At least one Mi-8 was shot down by Manpad, there are early reports of another helicopter and even fighter...town is 50kms from Ukraine border. Yep, SU-34 reportedly down as well. Edited May 13, 2023 by Beleg85 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, pintere said: Looks like Germany’s really stepping it up! They’re sending a new 2.7 billion Euro package to Ukraine that includes, among other things, 30 Leo-1s, 20 Marders, 15 Gepards and 4 IRIS-T-SLM AA systems. https://amp.dw.com/en/germany-to-send-ukraine-27-billion-military-aid-package/a-65612028 Apparently it’s their single biggest package of military aid yet. Among other things, Pistorius seems to have made a change. Finally! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nastypastie Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, The_MonkeyKing said: AIM-9 ! The forward wings are more forward and shorter on a Sidewinder. Looks like an AIM7 Sparrow except I believe the rear fins should be pointed, not cropped. No idea what this is if not a Sparrow. Edited May 13, 2023 by Nastypastie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Ringo Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 24 minutes ago, Huba said: There's going to be a moment when these quadcopters that record all the videos will start being equipped with laser designators. One can be carried by the assault team as well. Have a 120mm/81mm mortar on standby firing laser-guided projectiles (or a 155mm, or 70m rocket launcher or...) and the impact on fight like this will be tremendous. All the pieces to make it work are already there. Have a feeling we'll see a lot of new "pieces" being used when Ukraine kicks off the offensive. Precision, disruptive electronic warfare and deeper range being just three of the surprises. There has been a lot of prep time and training over the last 6 months for the Ukrainians. Will be interesting to see how it's used. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) Not that I had any doubt, but now we have proof. Storm Shadow for the win! https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1657323371812601858?s=20 https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1657020349479809025?s=20 Edited May 13, 2023 by DesertFox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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