Erwin Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Very impressive! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 10 hours ago, kohlenklau said: What gun did the BT have? If 45mm, then the "host mdr" could be the T-70 again. Yepp, 45mm. There was also an infantry support version i belive with a 76mm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) This is a T-26 Model 1933 built in the Goodenoughsokov tank factory. The height of the T-26 Model 1933 was 7'4" and the Humber was 7'10" but I did lower the turret a wee bit to close some modelling gaps so I really think we are close enough for my concerns. Edited January 23, 2022 by kohlenklau 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) Anybody out there want to dive into learning Blender? Come on, the water is fine...once you crack through the layer of ice on the top... "We" as a community really need more folks to learn this and try to do stuff. @Frenchy56 Edited January 23, 2022 by kohlenklau 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suchy Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) @kohlenklau It's perfect!!! The turret will also fit the BT5. I will look around for the chassis. I wonder if it is possible to use the Hetzer chassis to build the PZ.38. Edited January 23, 2022 by Suchy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 I guess that this will be hoping for to much...But are you guys able to do anything about the armour values of these 'modified' tanks ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Glubokii Boy said: I guess that this will be hoping for to much...But are you guys able to do anything about the armour values of these 'modified' tanks ? Nothing they can do.....The weapons, armour etc. of these vehicles will be whatever those of the underlying vehicle are, in this case a T-70 I believe. Edited January 23, 2022 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commanderski Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 hours ago, kohlenklau said: Anybody out there want to dive into learning Blender? I tried but something wasn't working right when I tried to save what I was working on. I think I'm almost done with the scenario I'm working on and will try to learn Blender again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Commanderski said: and will try to learn Blender again Hey Ski. Great! When you want...I offer my humble and limited level of knowledge to assist you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Glubokii Boy said: guess that this will be hoping for to much...But are you guys able to do anything about the armour values of these 'modified' tanks ? AFAIK, and it makes sense, the attributes and coded specs of the "host mdr" is what the game ALWAYS sees and uses for everything for physics of results in game play. There are some accidental variance in certain display actions as we saw when the T-26 seemed to NOT fire from the turret. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 48 minutes ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: Nothing they can do.....The weapons, armour etc. of these vehicles will be whatever those of the underlying vehicle are, in this case a T-70 I believe. Yepp...that has been my understanding also....Was hoping for some kind of a workaround but i guess not. These modded early tanks might become somewhat more difficult to knock out compared to RL...But i guess that using anything heavier then a 37mm it might not matter all that much... But 20mm and 37mm might be struggeling...(unless the '44, '45 ammo will be more potent ? ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 20 minutes ago, Glubokii Boy said: These modded early tanks might become We can find out when we have some fun down at the testing range... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, kohlenklau said: We can find out when we have some fun down at the testing range... The fun has begun I did a quick test with the T70 against 20mm and 37mm AA - The 37mm could defeat it pretty well - the 20 mm needed to be within 500 meters, preferably 300 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Glubokii Boy said: T70 So...do some internet data compare host T70 armor thickness front.sides.rear. "the usual areas" to the various shells we might use. T70 T26 BT7 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kohlenklau Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 I had never heard of that song before but I always liked Al Stewart's music. My wife got an old vinyl album of his and was playing it. A song about the Ost Front? Holy crap!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suchy Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Using the works of several authors, especially @kohlenklau and my own modifications I am preparing my vision of Barbarossa. There are excellent equivalents of the Panzer III and IV, but no early StuG. @kohlenklau has proposed 2 versions of this vehicle: - the same armed as the original but hopelessly poorly armoured on a carrier base - as armoured as the original, but armed with a long-barrelled 75mm cannon with completely different ballistics and much too good anti-tank parameters, based on the StuG G. I think a good equivalent of the early StuG would be... StuH! The ballistic characteristics of the 105mm howitzer are very similar to the short-barreled 75mm cannon, which really was also a howitzer. The StuH has only 2 anti-tank cumulative shells but the power of the demolition shell is enough to destroy the T34 with a bit of luck - exactly like the early short StuG equipped with more anti-tank shells. The effect of the 105mm shell on infantry and buildings is about 2 times more powerful than the 75mm but the 75mm cannon is about 2 times more rapid firing which somehow compensates. I did a simple test of 10 T34 vs 10 StuH at 500m. Result 4 T34s destroyed at a loss of 1 StuH. I think the original early StuG with a short barreled 75mm cannon and dedicated anti-tank shells and good armour with good shape would have achieved a similar result. Using a carrier, this is completely impossible because the carriers will be destroyed outright. On the other hand, when using the long-barrelled StuG as a replacement, the T34s are practically completely annihilated, which is unrealistic when using the short-barrelled StuG. This means that ... StuH is perfect I impatiently and with great hope await the official release of a @kohlenklau hybrid simulating the T26! I think so, combining the IS1 hull with the T34/76 early turret would give a KV1-like vehicle. The IS1 could also remain as a host. The 85mm cannon is better than the 76.2mm but the vehicles on the German side are also slightly better armoured than their 1941 counterparts. Even better would be the turret of the Staghound armoured car! The shape resembles the KV turret really well! It would only need to be slightly enlarged in all directions and a longer barrel with a larger diameter added. It is very difficult to find organ donors for the BT7. The closest shape to the chassis is the Crusader AA from CMBN and the turret from the last Stuart version. Unfortunately the chassis has 5 wheels and the BT7 had 4. You can get by with that or try to remove one wheel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinrich505 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Thanks for digging that old gem up, Phil. I remember discovering that one waaay back, never having figured that Al Stewart would have a song about the Eastern Front. I'd forgotten about it until you discovered it. Good find! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Suchy said: - the same armed as the original but hopelessly poorly armoured on a carrier base - as armoured as the original, but armed with a long-barrelled 75mm cannon with completely different ballistics and much too good anti-tank parameters, based on the StuG G. I think a good equivalent of the early StuG would be... StuH! Hey Tommy. Excellent! Thank you for getting involved and adding your Super Polski power. It is actually not a problem to have all 3 as OPTIONS with different modtags for the use by the scenario writer. A certain scenario might come across better for using the actual short 75 with HE rounds. The German infantry approaching a village and need help. No armor threat exists. Maybe anti-tank rifles. Maybe an anti-tank gun. But if the scenario writer wants to dial up to the Stug he can. And now a 3rd option. It is all in the hands of the scenario writer to choose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Suchy said: impatiently and with great hope await the official release I am still working on the new paint scheme. I will make a little BARB scenario to give it a nice debut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) ok, I had some issues with the T-26 and must go back into Blender and fix a few things. BUT I do have the T-26 debut scenario in the instapot and it should be done by Monday or Tuesday. based off an old ASL scenario in their Ost Front Pack 3....(though I just saw that the ASL scenario writer spelled Kobryn as Korbyn). BARB BARBAROSSA NACHMITTAG (Barbarossa Afternoon) play as axis vs allied AI, meeting engagement, map is 2km x 2km, scenario size small/medium. west of Kobryn, Russia, 1941-06-21, 1530 "Operation Barbarossa opened at 0315, and by mid-afternoon, the XXIV Army Corps (Motorized) Panzergruppe 2 of Generaloberst Heinz Guderian, had worked their way around the fortress of Brest-Litovsk, and into open country west of Kobryn. Unaware of what was truly unfolding at the front, General Colonel Pavlov, commander of the Soviet Western Front, issued orders for a general counterattack. As the German 3rd Panzer Division sped past the retreating units of the Soviet 3rd and 4th Armies, it ran headlong into advancing elements of the Soviet 22nd Tank Division with over 350 light tanks, sent to block the German advance." Edited January 28, 2022 by kohlenklau 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted January 29, 2022 Author Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) On 1/10/2022 at 2:56 PM, kohlenklau said: For everybody who considers that they might be one of the "Club of Six", I have some great news. A buddy of mine has harnessed the company he works for, (he manages their Scranton, Pennsylvania branch) to be a corporate sponsor for me to set up some "tracked damage/umpire involved campaigns" we all can play here with the Barb Mod for the rest of the winter. Round of applause for his awesome company! Anybody interested? @Blazing 88's @Suchy @Falaise @Vacilllator @Commanderski @Heinrich505 Who exactly are the Club of Six? The above quoted post of mine was a tongue in cheek post but did have a true offer underneath the Dunder-Mifflin joke! But nobody contacted me or commented so I guess there is not much interest to form 2 teams of 1 or more players each and conduct a small PBEM series as a "tracked damage/umpire involved campaign" aka CMPzC using BARB mods. Of course I am the umpire and organizer to maintain fog of war and have random events and narrate the event. It is to me some work but can be pretty cool if we do it right. It takes a while to do! I think we have several threads! An axis team thread and allies agree NOT TO READ it until AFTER the event is fully complete. An allies team thread and axis agree NOT TO READ it until AFTER the event is fully complete. If you sign-up and are approved to join one of the teams, you agree to play your PBEMs with the mods and make some posts with a few photos to describe the battle. Maintain honor system the best you can. All for fun. Edited January 29, 2022 by kohlenklau 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falaise Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Ma fois I have never played against a human player I still have some difficulty with the language barrier! I see it despite everything a good opportunity to " jeter a l'eau" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted January 29, 2022 Author Share Posted January 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Falaise said: I have never played against a human player Oh wow. We got to fix that! it is fun. It is easy to learn the procedure for the PBEM turn sharing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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