Sgt.Squarehead Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I made a course: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Needs a green flavor object. Perfect thing to roll a tank over. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landser Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Hole 1 is a mean dogleg right. But maybe you could take it right over the trees there. Yeah, golf too now And all due to me carelessly tossing idioms around. Gotta be more circumspect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, landser said: Hole 1 is a mean dogleg right. But maybe you could take it right over the trees there. Yeah, golf too now And all due to me carelessly tossing idioms around. Gotta be more circumspect. I think we should all be proud of the inclusive nature of this fine forum. But golf? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, landser said: Hole 1 is a mean dogleg right. But maybe you could take it right over the trees there. You could probably shorten your shot with a well timed stonk from your 155mm howitzers! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splinty Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 10 hours ago, akd said: Ah, but what about crew in Panzer-StuG battalions? Now you and I both know I would never challenge you on TO&E questions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 8 hours ago, Lethaface said: I think this discussion is now mixed between what defines a tank, the politics in the German army during WW2 about who controlled the Stugs and whether the Swedish 'S-tank' was capable in the anti tank role. If the former owners didn't call it a tank and the crew had to wear artillery uniforms, I rest my case. I admit I am not an expert on the S-Tank. But the manufacturer calls it an S-Tank and with guns you can shoot at tanks too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umlaut Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 On 2/24/2021 at 8:54 PM, Sgt.Squarehead said: I made a course: Looks perfect for a Red vs Red battle! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Jack Ripper Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 The way I see it, it's a tank if the person using it calls it a tank, or if the person building it calls it a tank, or if it's used in a battlefield role that would (or could be) be performed by a tank. Or if it's a Monday. Or the word, "tank," is now used as a generic term for, "any vehicle that drives around on tracks," by a buddy of mine back from three tours in Afghanistan who refers to his M113 as a tank. It seems only on forums like this are the real nitty gritty details hashed out. I love you guys. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Jack Ripper Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 On 2/24/2021 at 2:54 PM, Sgt.Squarehead said: I made a course: Are we golfing with 60mm mortars? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, General Jack Ripper said: Are we golfing with 60mm mortars? Makes a nice game flush out 18 MG42 with 2 - 60mm mortars. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 24 minutes ago, General Jack Ripper said: The way I see it, it's a tank if the person using it calls it a tank, or if the person building it calls it a tank, or if it's used in a battlefield role that would (or could be) be performed by a tank. Or if it's a Monday. Or the word, "tank," is now used as a generic term for, "any vehicle that drives around on tracks," by a buddy of mine back from three tours in Afghanistan who refers to his M113 as a tank. It seems only on forums like this are the real nitty gritty details hashed out. I love you guys. My pacifist inclined sister called the M113 a tank when she saw one. Your buddy is among good company. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethaface Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 12 hours ago, General Jack Ripper said: Are we golfing with 60mm mortars? I thought you have a 'golf tank'? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 14 hours ago, chuckdyke said: My pacifist inclined sister called the M113 a tank when she saw one. Your buddy is among good company. At least she didn't call it a Gavin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Here is another tank, what's round comes around. The comeback of the mighty 57 mm. Why Russia Loves Its 57-Millimeter Cannon (It Could Take On a Tank) | The National Interest 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Lethaface said: I thought you have a 'golf tank'? That there turret better shoot golf balls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freyberg Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 On 3/9/2021 at 2:55 PM, chuckdyke said: My pacifist inclined sister called the M113 a tank when she saw one. Your buddy is among good company. I once saw an M113 trundling down the Eastern Freeway in Melbourne, and I remarked to my then wife, "check it out - there's a tank on the road." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Freyberg said: I once saw an M113 trundling down the Eastern Freeway in Melbourne, and I remarked to my then wife, "check it out - there's a tank on the road." In psychology it is called stimuli generalization. If you tell your wife there goes an 'APC' you know (subconsciously) that you must explain what an APC is. Like my sister who at best regards the armed forces as a necessarily evil. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawomi Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 (edited) On 2/16/2021 at 5:18 AM, Irididdle said: AAAAAA, Gimme the stupid DDR helmets, oh god I can see it in my head already. Here you go: http://www.ddr-uniformen.com/?page_id=416 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/M45_(Stahlhelm) Minute 5:48: https://archive.org/details/DieDeutscheWochenschauNr.733 Quote The NVA steel helmet has an eventful history, the beginnings go back to the Third Reich. There the steel helmet used later in the NVA was invented and also patented under the Reich patent no. 706467. It was tried here to manufacture a helmet easier to produce, which has better protection against splinters and bullets by the beveled edges. The straight surfaces at the front of the Model M42 were often penetrated by bullets and splinters. The end of the war did not allow a large series production, the helmet has not come out beyond a pre-series in 1945. Based on a memorandum from the Army Medical Inspectorate, which pointed to the increasing number of head injuries and other shortcomings of the previous German helmet models M35 and M40, the development of a new steel helmet was approved by the Army Weapons Office in 1942 - bypassing the Ministry of Armaments and Adolf Hitler's ban on new helmet designs. The work was carried out at the Chemisch-Technische Reichsanstalt by the Institut für Wehrtechnische Werkstoffkunde Berlin (Director: Prof. Dr.-Ing. Fry and Dr. Hänsel). Four models were shortlisted for testing: "A" = a slightly modified helmet 35, "B", "B/II" and "C". The experienced manufacturer of steel helmets, the Eisen- und Hüttenwerke AG Thale/Harz, which had been commissioned with the production of the test samples, also submitted the "Thale proposal", which had been developed as a modification of the model "B" under the direction of the chief engineer Erich Kisan. During firing and troop tests, the two "B" models proved to be the best. The prototype was registered as a patent on December 7, 1943 under the number 706467. The further results were summarized in a memorandum and presented to the Führer's headquarters in the fall of 1944. Despite the positive assessment of the helmets as well as the great savings in material and working time, it refused to introduce a new helmet model - apparently for logistical reasons and for reasons of tradition. Only a few hundred helmets were issued for troop testing. Series production did not take place. The NVA later took up this design again and produced this helmet from 1956 in series, in the course of time this was revised several times. The later versions had clipped chinstraps which loosened with load. Due to the far protruding sides, soldiers were often stuck on edges of vehicles or trenches, which led to injuries to the spine. Ballistically and in the hearing the NVA steel helmet is until today one of the best, if not even the best! The protective effect has only been surpassed since the introduction of Kevlar helmets. Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) Edited March 13, 2021 by sawomi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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