zmoney Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I looked at the weapons list posted and I didn't see the rpg or molotov cocktail listed. Will they be an option for Russian infantry to carry or will they be abstracted like the German infantry AT grenades if they are still being used in abstract. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizou Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Im guessing on the latter. The type of weapons are abstracted and I havent seen any indication from BF that this is about to change (at least not anytime soon). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 When did the russians start using the bazooka (if ever) ? If i don't remember wrong they did use it towards the end of the war atleast... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saferight Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Different RPG like RPG 40 hand thrown AT weapon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saferight Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Is there proof they ever did get it as lend lease? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmoney Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 The rpg I'm referring to was a thrown shaped charge, not fired like a bazooka, like modern rpg. From what I read the Russians tested the bazooka and didn't like it so never asked for them or made their own. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maarten Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 They got very few bazookas, IIRC. Around a 1000. Not sure on the actual number. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 zmoney, One doesn't walk around with a Molotov cocktail. It's the weapon of a defender. I say this having recently read Clark's The Battle of the Tanks: Kursk 1943. It's clearly stated there by a Russian infantryman that every unit was supplied with bottles, that the Molotovs were prepared ahead of time and stored in niches in the trench wall. He was at pains to explain how carefully one had to handle them. Apparently, judging from German reports and Russian descriptions, Molotovs did a lot of damage, bagging several Ferdinands, for one. The shaped charge grenade to which you refer is the RPG-43. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPG-43 I can't speak for BFC, but I wouldn't hold my breath on explicit representation. RepsolCBR and Saferight, They were supplied it, 3000 launchers, as seen here, Section III-A, Page 4, Line 2 http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/ref/LL-Ship/LL-Ship-3A.html 8500 live rounds were supplied, as well as 1607 practice rounds Section III-B, Page 10, Lines 15 and 16 Regarding use, find the Russian Battle of Berlin doc on YT. Watch for the scene in which the branches are removed from amphibious jeeps about to cross the Oder. When the amphib jeeps get across, the troops are carrying bazookas. I've cited and linked to it several times on the Forums. The men going across are undoubtedly high quality troops, probably scouts. They carry a specialized weapon, and their job is to protect the bridgehead against armored attack until heavier weapons can be gotten across. I have no idea whether the Russians ever used a bazooka in combat. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 They got very few bazookas, IIRC. Around a 1000. Not sure on the actual number. Just enough, IIRC, for the Germans to capture a few and reverse/re-engineer the Panzershreck out of the concept. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maarten Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Were they captured on the East front? I always figured they got them in Africa. Shows what I know, I guess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 thanks for the info... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmoney Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 It was Africa I believe not Russia 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jishmael Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I'd love to see Recon squads with the possibility to take Zooks for a hit in Rarity when Berlin finally arrives. That would be really sweet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 RPG-43 is in the game already, Molotovs are not really appropriate for this timeframe. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db_zero Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 JK said...one doesn't walk around with a Molotov cocktail. Don't know about that. Me and my friends would walk and run with em. We had WW2 bunkers to try them out on. Wouldn't want to be someone inside a bunker when one went off. We used to put Styrofoam into the gas to create a gooey substance that would burn for quite a while. The bunkers were a mile or 2 uphill. Sometimes I wonder how I survived youth in 1 piece. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 It was Africa I believe not Russia That's how I remember it from my readings as well. Tunisia either around the end of 1942 or early '43. They might have captured a ton of them in the process of overrunning American positions during the Kasserine Pass battles. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Belenko Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 What was that early Soviet weapon that spit a blob of flame at a tank? Somefink like AMPULET?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Finns also practised using dual smoke grenades in bola style to blind tanks, allowing you to approach safely with satchel charges. There was also a blinding bottle M44 that you'd toss on the glacis that would have the same effect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenris Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Finns also practised using dual smoke grenades in bola style to blind tanks, allowing you to approach safely with satchel charges. There was also a blinding bottle M44 that you'd toss on the glacis that would have the same effect. Excellent, never seen that before. Very interesting. Thanks F 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 That has to be included in the Finn module...and they will require a module all to themselves right? The nice thing is the bigger the tank barrel, the easier that should be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vark Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 It's demonstrated in the classic Manner Gegen Panzer 12:30 for the throw Hated those RPG's! They seemed to be laser guided, floating out of nowhere to hit and destroy your tanks with uncanny precision, even at 30m range! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Wow, that's a pretty good war action film. Pretty good training for CM East Front. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew H. Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Wow, that's a pretty good war action film. Pretty good training for CM East Front. I've seen that before; it's very cool. Although, assuming that the Russians are using the tactics as described by Jason in the linked thread, I wonder how well these guys will do against the next seven waves? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmoney Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 RPG-43 is in the game already, Molotovs are not really appropriate for this timeframe. Steve Thanks, I wasn't sure about the molotov's but worried about the Rpg's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadekster Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I've seen that before; it's very cool. Although, assuming that the Russians are using the tactics as described by Jason in the linked thread, I wonder how well these guys will do against the next seven waves? If history is any indication, not so well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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