Childress Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Is that honestly your criteria for a good and entertaining movie? :eek: :confused: Is there is a higher criterium? If there is I want to know it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destraex1 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 They appear to be made to look like late F or early G models, I dont think there were that many MKIV Fs and Gs in 6th Army at the time of the Stalingrad battle, maybe a few, but every tank in the CGI sequence looks the same. Its still pretty cool, what can be done these days with computer enhanced movies. count the road wheels. Also mkivs wheels are not usually hidden by the skirts. They are small enough to be under the skirt iirc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Steppenwulf Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I agree with Childress - I think there are worse war movies than Enemy at the Gates. Whilst the performances aren't special and being in American English - not Russian and German - it lacks that dash of authenticism that could carry it better. But, it's still got an interesting back-story, the plot develops well enough and there are one or two interesting scenes, which the love scene is certainly not one. The likes of Pearl Harbour is in a far, lower league than this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenris Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 SPOILER szene from the movie: Best regards, Thomm If CMEF - Stalingrad doesn't come with flaming Soviet SMG squads the game will be fundamentally flawed. There's all the proof I need. -F 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Joch Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 the whole world is getting into the war/action movie genre. This clip is from the chinese movie "Flowers of War" about Nanking, 1937. This is how you take out a Japanese platoon... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Most of the war movies that make grogs happy I tend to find tedious and dull. Like they filmed a reenactor convention or something. Give me interesting characters and a decent plot and I can forgive the wrong model jeep and the post-war truck in the background. "Enemy at the Gates" was a good movie, but you've got to admit it was a 'western' in all but location. It even included the two 'gun slingers' facing off for a stand-up duel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnersman Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 the whole world is getting into the war/action movie genre. This clip is from the chinese movie "Flowers of War" about Nanking, 1937. This is how you take out a Japanese platoon... I bought that movie. I couldnt get through the whole thing. Very depressing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 The Japanese victory dance from The City of Life and Death fascinates me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenzie Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Did I hear something about Chinese war movies? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=t00seTQN7yI#t=1068 City of Life and Death, another movie about the Nanking massacres. Talk about depressing movies. Like the Chinese Schindler's List. Edit: dammit I was beaten by two minutes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokko Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 That battle scene is really suprisingly well made, easily beats 90% of Western war movies. Gonna have to find a version with English subtitles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Joch Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 The Chinese have been turning out some great war movies lately, good stories with high production values. Not surprisingly, most turn around the Sino-chinese conflict, one of the least known conflict of WW2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew H. Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 If CMEF - Stalingrad doesn't come with flaming Soviet SMG squads the game will be fundamentally flawed. There's all the proof I need. -F In Soviet Russia, flamethrower is YOU! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BletchleyGeek Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 In Soviet Russia, flamethrower is YOU! I DEMAND that Battlefront complies with the state-of-the-art in historical research about the Eastern Front, and provides us with painstakingly detailed tables of equipment for the upcoming Bagration title 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destraex1 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Apparently this is also on blu ray now. So many interesting russian movies. http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Dneiperline-Love-and-War-Blu-ray/43717/ Dneiperline: Love and War Blu-ray I was thinking about getting the original 1993 (iirc) blu ray of stalingrad as well. Others I want to look into: FORTRESS OF WAR, THE BOMBER, ADMIRAL, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2007471/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343703/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1101026/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn2002 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 All enjoyable nonsense. Time somebody starts to make serious war movies with that kind of facilities and technic to his disposal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Do Russian war movies have the same hackneyed stereotypes? You know, farm boy, Brooklyn, true heart Indian, and the father figure NCO/Captain, and the unblooded Looie who dies to atone for his earlier mistakes? What would they have? The Muscovite, streetwise and arrogant. The Ukrainian wheat farm boy, wide eyed and innocent. The scamming Georgian, always scheming and trading. The Uzbeck, who listens to the ground and states, "3 Tigers to the West. They approach with hate in their hearts. We have 10 minutes." The Komsomol recruit who keeps looking to his pocket guide as if that will tell him what to do while under direct machinegun fire. And the Commissar, waving his pistol about, foam and spittle flying, who dies while gloriously taking out the Tiger tank and saving the men who hated him. Just wondering... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnersman Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Do Russian war movies have the same hackneyed stereotypes? You know, farm boy, Brooklyn, true heart Indian, and the father figure NCO/Captain, and the unblooded Looie who dies to atone for his earlier mistakes? What would they have? The Muscovite, streetwise and arrogant. The Ukrainian wheat farm boy, wide eyed and innocent. The scamming Georgian, always scheming and trading. The Uzbeck, who listens to the ground and states, "3 Tigers to the West. They approach with hate in their hearts. We have 10 minutes." The Komsomol recruit who keeps looking to his pocket guide as if that will tell him what to do while under direct machinegun fire. And the Commissar, waving his pistol about, foam and spittle flying, who dies while gloriously taking out the Tiger tank and saving the men who hated him. Just wondering... I took all that as a given. But all fair questions. On another note,there is 9 Company (Company 9?) set in Afghanistan, where only one person survives. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmj Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Cool (pun), Attacking waves of Flaming Russian Zombies! Will Battlefront also model the German Icethrowers for game balance, how did they counter they flaming Russian zombie hordes in real life anyway? I'd like to also request we get the elite bomb laden antitank dog squads as well please. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidan1 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 The Japanese victory dance from The City of Life and Death fascinates me. Everything about Japanese culture revolves around ritual and sacrifice. The Chinese are also no strangers to ritual in their lives. What is interesting to me, is this is a Chinese war movie and Japanese are portrayed as almost human. Especially considering the barbarism they rained down on the inhabitants of Nanking this seems quite generous. There is still no love lost between the Chinese and the Japanese. Seeing these movies opens an interesting window into the current attitudes of the Chinese. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidan1 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Did I hear something about Chinese war movies? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=t00seTQN7yI#t=1068 City of Life and Death, another movie about the Nanking massacres. Talk about depressing movies. Like the Chinese Schindler's List. Edit: dammit I was beaten by two minutes Wow a Chinese movie, with spoken Japanese, Chinese with Vietnamese subtitles. A vertiable Asian feast, I wonder what the Vietnamese think of this movie? Considering their history with both the Chinese and the Japanese. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted December 17, 2013 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 Everything about Japanese culture revolves around ritual and sacrifice. The Chinese are also no strangers to ritual in their lives. What is interesting to me, is this is a Chinese war movie and Japanese are portrayed as almost human. Especially considering the barbarism they rained down on the inhabitants of Nanking this seems quite generous. There is still no love lost between the Chinese and the Japanese. Seeing these movies opens an interesting window into the current attitudes of the Chinese. You are quite right the Chinese do seem to portray the Japanese in a better light than they so obviously could. I watch quite a lot of the Chinese, Japanese and Korean movies and they are excellent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kensal Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 They appear to be made to look like late F or early G models, I dont think there were that many MKIV Fs and Gs in 6th Army at the time of the Stalingrad battle, maybe a few, but every tank in the CGI sequence looks the same. Its still pretty cool, what can be done these days with computer enhanced movies. The really stupid detail about the MKIVs is that they start the scene lined up and backed against a large building, facing enemy positions on the other side of the square. Unless they were parachuted into position like that (the special effects do seem to suggest that), they must have driven up the side of the building, made a 90 degree turn exposing their flanks to the Russian positions, before reaching their starting points, doing another 90 degree turn to face the square. hmmm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acornFlyer Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Trailer for 'Stalingrad' seems to suggest it might be a bit more than just a VFX-fest. <nationalstereotype>The Russians tend to make pretty thoughtful films on the whole</nationalstereotype> Stalingrad Trailer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidan1 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 the whole world is getting into the war/action movie genre. This clip is from the chinese movie "Flowers of War" about Nanking, 1937. This is how you take out a Japanese platoon... Thats an exciting scene. but realistically I dont believe a grenade can be detonated by a rifle bullet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Have to show that to my German pixeltruppen for inspiration. It's the uniform that does it, y'know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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