Erwin Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Warts 'n' all said: I think that you'll find that it was Atlee who ran Limeyland during WW2 That's an interesting proposition. Where is the evidence for that (or maybe it was a joke - wasn't sure)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn2002 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 On 8/1/2019 at 5:48 AM, Battlefront.com said: Oh, and for those who are curious about the business side of things, a lot of resources, persistence and patience is needed to land a defense contract of this nature. It also takes the right product. Slitherine has spent years working hard to break into the defense contracting world, Battlefront has spent two decades developing Combat Mission. Partnering together on military contracts makes sense. Steve It does. We can all forget about a release of the CMRT module this year, but it does. Perhaps you could consider developing CM in partnership with Slitherine as well. That way we don't have to wait for modules so insanely long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 9 hours ago, Warts 'n' all said: I think that you'll find that it was Atlee who ran Limeyland during WW2, and it was Eleanor who ran USAtia. Meanwhile, Elizabeth says I can't even run a whelk stall down the Mile End Road We share a common language and yet I almost never know what the hell you are talking about. Mord. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn2002 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mord said: We share a common language and yet I almost never know what the hell you are talking about. Mord. Well, they don't execute you posthumous without a good reason. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I was listening to a UK podcast recently where the host mocked his father for spelling the word 'realize' with a z ('zed') and using the word 'janitor'. Those darned pernicious 'Americanisms' creeping into the lexicon! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 53 minutes ago, Mord said: We share a common language and yet I almost never know what the hell you are talking about. Mord. Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Thank you for that compliment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 25 minutes ago, MikeyD said: Those darned pernicious 'Americanisms' creeping into the lexicon! It could only improve it. British slang particularly is often not only opaque, it's downright ugly. Michael 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 8 hours ago, Erwin said: That's an interesting proposition. Where is the evidence for that (or maybe it was a joke - wasn't sure)? This is a game forum, so let's keep it both simple and relevant. The answer can be found in tank names. Cromwell - Great war leader, useless as Lord Protector, and loathed by his own comrades such as the Diggers and the Levellers. Churchill - Great war leader, the worst occupant of No. 11 ever, and as a floor crosser loathed by many in both the Liberal, and Conservative parties. We don't have a tank called the .... Atlee - Christian cadet corps leader, coalition builder, defeater of Halifax's attempts to bring down Churchill in 1940, and as Lord Privy Seal and de facto Leader of the House of Commons he "ran" the country, leaving Churchill free to run the M.O.D. and boost the morale of the people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Warts 'n' all said: Churchill - Great war leader... Actually, I am not at all convinced that his reputation as a great war leader is entirely deserved. For instance, he had a bad habit of committing the Army into operations it had no reasonable hope of winning when the shrewder strategy would have been to husband his forces and commit them when they had a reasonable hope of victory. Greece and BATTLEAXE come immediately to mind and SHINGLE might also be mentioned along with come other actions. As a consequence, the Army lost thousands of men fruitlessly thrown away and not available when a genuine opportunity arose. Michael 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin2k Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Want to downvote Churchill as well. Not going into particulars. Lets just say it is his face. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 The Labour party won an unprecedented landslide victory in 1945, put Atlee into office for the next 6 years and unceremoniously kicked Churchill to the curb. Thick historical treatises could be written about why that occurred. I'm reminded of that line spoken by john Huston in the film 'Chinatown': "Politicians, ugly buildings and wh_res all get respectable if they last long enough." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 9 hours ago, Aragorn2002 said: It does. We can all forget about a release of the CMRT module this year, but it does. Perhaps you could consider developing CM in partnership with Slitherine as well. That way we don't have to wait for modules so insanely long. An amazing jump to a conclusion from someone with no actual information to make that call from, but hey some people like to always see a potential negative. They make drugs for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Michael Emrys said: Actually, I am not at all convinced that his reputation as a great war leader is entirely deserved. For instance, he had a bad habit of committing the Army into operations it had no reasonable hope of winning when the shrewder strategy would have been to husband his forces and commit them when they had a reasonable hope of victory. Greece and BATTLEAXE come immediately to mind and SHINGLE might also be mentioned along with come other actions. As a consequence, the Army lost thousands of men fruitlessly thrown away and not available when a genuine opportunity arose. Michael I was just suggesting why he would have had a tank named after him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 50 minutes ago, sburke said: ... hey some people like to always see a potential negative. They make drugs for that. Promoting prescription drugs for other form members are you in the pocket of Big Pharma? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin2k Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Warts 'n' all said: I was just suggesting why he would have had a tank named after him. Okay, in a way he even looks like a tank. Like a Bishop SP gun. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 The resemblance is uncanny! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Kevin2k said: Okay, in a way he even looks like a tank. Like a Bishop SP gun. Sorry, I was trying to confine my answer to vehicles that currently appear in the game. Exits stage right, quart of Elizabeth's (tax exempt) Whitehall Extra Stout in hand ---------> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 6 hours ago, Michael Emrys said: it's downright ugly. What is British slang? Now try answering that and keeping it CM related. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger73 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Well, I wish all those silly Wally's would stop posting bug reports without proper evidence . . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn2002 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 12 hours ago, sburke said: An amazing jump to a conclusion from someone with no actual information to make that call from, but hey some people like to always see a potential negative. They make drugs for that. An amazing jump? You guys finishing a module in less than 5 months? Don't make me laugh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freyberg Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 As to the question of whether Churchill was a competent military strategist, well he was and he wasn't. The invasion of Greece was a disaster, except... ...that it and the revolution Yugoslavia delayed the start of Barbarossa by just long enough to prevent Germany from winning in 1941. The invasion of Italy, likewise, was a pointless, bloody adventure except... the collapse of Mussolini's government came at just the right time to break Hitler's nerve in the Battle of Kursk. For a lousy strategist, he had an uncanny ability to choose strategies that had unpredictably beneficial outcomes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Aragorn2002 said: An amazing jump? You guys finishing a module in less than 5 months? Don't make me laugh. And you know how long CMRT might have been worked on how? Edited August 15, 2019 by sburke 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Freyberg said: As to the question of whether Churchill was a competent military strategist, well he was and he wasn't. The invasion of Greece was a disaster, except... ...that it and the revolution Yugoslavia delayed the start of Barbarossa by just long enough to prevent Germany from winning in 1941. The invasion of Italy, likewise, was a pointless, bloody adventure except... the collapse of Mussolini's government came at just the right time to break Hitler's nerve in the Battle of Kursk. For a lousy strategist, he had an uncanny ability to choose strategies that had unpredictably beneficial outcomes. That's an interesting perspective. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Are there any historical characters who used to be thought of as heroes or brilliant who have not now fallen from their pedestals thru revisionism? Monty seems to be reviled today as too slow and cautious even tho' his main task was to minimize British casualties as Britain had lost so many in WW1. Are Patton, Lincoln and Washington today similarly recognized as being "lucky" altho' inept? Am genuinely curious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicky Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Mountbatten for the disasterous Dieppe Raid... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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