Warts 'n' all Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 As we pack up our things and leave Mindboggleton Magna for a little hamlet down the road, I think that the last word on the events of 25th February be left to the 2nd most important band in British history. Cue ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet 0369 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Battlefront.com said: Heh, that was my point. The trolls told us by 2020 there would be endless fleets of them to challenge the NATO Nazis. I and others said that was unlikely and we were dressed down for not knowing what we're talking about. I wish some of the trolls were back here so they could apologize That and BMP-3. I expected to see a lot of them, but in fact there are very few. Steve Hey, they needed to save at least some of them for the Red Square Victory Parade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seedorf81 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Looks to me this whole thing is spiralling out of control.. That tv speech from Putin promises the worst. I think he lost his marbles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armorgunner Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, akd said: See, above, I thought they were all on one image, but it was two separate images. It was this I was looking for. Posted Tuesday afternoon. In the beginning of the film, you can see the cassette with the multilayer ERA been placed on top of the right, front side of the turret. The edge over the K5 ERA or whats in the cassettes there. a second later you see the side of the turret. With the most forward right side ERA box open, and empty. Becouse the cassette with the multilayer ERA is taken out. And is on the top of the turrets right side. Remember? I have never seen this "multi layer" ERA on Russian tanks before. Thats why I woundred if this is Relikt The cassette would sit in its box, so that only one layer is engaged. But at an extreme angle. And that should in theory make it much more effective! Knowing how ERA works! Edited March 4, 2022 by Armorgunner 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet 0369 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 hour ago, TheVulture said: BBC News is about 24 hours behind compared to updates you'll find in this thread, except for big, easily verifiable stories. I honestly don’t mind that. To me, it means that they’re making an effort to verify truth. I respect that. They also don’t have our CM boys and girls reporting straight from the AOOs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armorgunner Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Battlefront.com said: Dusting off some very old memories when the Russian MoD made this announcement as part of their budget. At the time many of us were puzzled, but I think we concluded it came down to cost. They could upgrade more T-72s for the money than produce new T-90s. Steve Number of Russian tanks, of different types. Active, and reserv according to Wiki. And T-90 is T-72BU. But was renamed to T-90 after GW1, becouse of the T-72 Urals of Saddams armys bad performance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_Russian_Ground_Forces#Vehicles Edited March 4, 2022 by Armorgunner 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 57 minutes ago, BeondTheGrave said: Guy who designed the anti-javelin parasol says its totally working you guys. 100%!! The only confirmation you need that Javelins work is that the Russians are not in Kyiv. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, BeondTheGrave said: Guy who designed the anti-javelin parasol says its totally working you guys. 100%!! The only confirmation you need that Javelins work is that the Russians are not in Kyiv. Edited March 4, 2022 by dan/california double post 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armorgunner Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, dan/california said: The only confirmation you need that Javelins work is that the Russians are not in Kyiv. The anti-Javelin guy, can always fool Putler. Hey Boss! It worked against the Javs, but not against the NLAWS. You want me to do an NLAW protection cage? And then escape Russia Edited March 4, 2022 by Armorgunner 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 22 minutes ago, Vet 0369 said: I honestly don’t mind that. To me, it means that they’re making an effort to verify truth. I respect that. They also don’t have our CM boys and girls reporting straight from the AOOs. and this I really appreciate Millions of Russians turn to BBC News - Media Centre 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Volunteers cross Polish border into Ukraine to fight Russian forces (msn.com) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armorgunner Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) The most problematic thing for the future. Is that the Russians have captured at least 14 MBT LAW (NLAW). They have not today, any topattack ATGM. But could reverse enginere. And if they are doing well on the attack in other sectors, they might capture Javelins to! But it was probably an equation that it could happen, I hope! Both for the NLAWS, and Javelins! Go down to Ukrainian losses Attack On Europe: Documenting Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine - Oryx (oryxspioenkop.com) Edited March 4, 2022 by Armorgunner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 13 minutes ago, Armorgunner said: The most problematic thing for the future. Is that the Russians have captured at least 14 MBT LAW (NLAW). They have not today, any topattack ATGM. But could reverse enginere. And if they are doing well on the attack in other sectors, they might capture Javelins to! But it was probably an equation that it could happen, I hope! Both for the NLAWS, and Javelins! Go down to Ukrainian losses Attack On Europe: Documenting Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine - Oryx (oryxspioenkop.com) I wouldn't be surprised to hear they'd gotten some via Iraq. Whether they can actually produce them is another thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSarge Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) There are reports that the Russian shelling of the Zaporozhie Nuclear Reactor has set a fire there. CNN just reported it. https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-03-22/index.html Edited March 4, 2022 by OldSarge 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet 0369 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 55 minutes ago, Warts 'n' all said: As we pack up our things and leave Mindboggleton Magna for a little hamlet down the road, I think that the last word on the events of 25th February be left to the 2nd most important band in British history. Cue ... I’m a bit confused. What exactly does this have to do with what’s going on in Ukraine? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 The development of a next generation APS, needs to take our own best missiles into account, as as reasonable assumptions about Russian development. And there is no higher priority for land forces development. There is just no point in deploying tanks without it. 19 minutes ago, Armorgunner said: The most problematic thing for the future. Is that the Russians have captured at least 14 MBT LAW (NLAW). They have not today, any topattack ATGM. But could reverse enginere. And if they are doing well on the attack in other sectors, they might capture Javelins to! But it was probably an equation that it could happen, I hope! Both for the NLAWS, and Javelins! Go down to Ukrainian losses Attack On Europe: Documenting Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine - Oryx (oryxspioenkop.com) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, OldSarge said: There are reports that the Russian shelling of the Zaporozhie Nuclear Reactor has set a fire there. CNN just reported it. https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-03-22/index.html The livestream I linked above is from this location. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danfrodo Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Vet 0369 said: I’m a bit confused. What exactly does this have to do with what’s going on in Ukraine? I believe this would be an allusion to the rumors that Putler will declare martial law? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSarge Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, akd said: The livestream I linked above is from this location. Thanks, your post slipped right by me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db_zero Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Ukraine may become the prize not worth taking if it becomes irradiated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chudacabra Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 28 minutes ago, OldSarge said: There are reports that the Russian shelling of the Zaporozhie Nuclear Reactor has set a fire there. CNN just reported it. https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-03-22/index.html In the history of bad ideas, shelling a nuclear plant must rank near the top. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet 0369 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 38 minutes ago, Armorgunner said: The most problematic thing for the future. Is that the Russians have captured at least 14 MBT LAW (NLAW). They have not today, any topattack ATGM. But could reverse enginere. And if they are doing well on the attack in other sectors, they might capture Javelins to! But it was probably an equation that it could happen, I hope! Both for the NLAWS, and Javelins! Go down to Ukrainian losses Attack On Europe: Documenting Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine - Oryx (oryxspioenkop.com) I assume that the militaries and intelligence services of the USA, UK, and Sweden assessed those possibilities and decided that the Russians already had either actual Javs and NLAWs, or at least detailed plans and specs for them, especially since the UK and Sweden began developing the NLAW 20 years ago in 2002. It’s really difficult to keep something secret for that long. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobetco Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 I recall reading they where shutting down all the nuclear plants for this exact reason, wither or not they actually did who can say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet 0369 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 18 minutes ago, db_zero said: Ukraine may become the prize not worth taking if it becomes irradiated. I don’t think “taking” Ukraine was ever the main reason Putin invaded Ukraine, keeping Putin in charge was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danfrodo Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 why does putin need to take ukraine to stay in charge? I'm not following that. The biggest risk to his power he could possibly take was trying to take Ukraine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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