arpella72 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I'm making some interesting reading about the North African Campaign this days with the Osprey books.I have always been fascinated for that theatre that has been covered in the CMx1.I wonder if it would be any chance for a CMx2 North Africa theatre covering the events from 1942 with Operation Crusader,Tobruk,El Alamein and not only Tunisia in 1943. There are many interesting and challenging things: long range engagements,wide minefields,armoured tactics in big open scenarios.And,what's more,most of the job has already done.We have "tropical" german and CW troops from CMFI (Newzelanders,Australians,...)and Italian troops(with some vehicles).Many of the vehicles are already done( like panzers II, III and IV; we have Crusader tanks hull ,turret should be done) others would be brand new but modelled in old CMx1 games(Matildas,M3 Lee/Grants,...). Why not?. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazing 88's Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Hell yeah!!! Hopefully next on their list! J/K… From Barbarossa forward as well. :D 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeDog Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Certainly nothing wrong with the idea; I'd play the game. This said, don't underestimate the amount of development work it takes to release a new game family; CMFI was able to borrow pretty heavily from CMBN and it still took a lot of work to get out the door. Going back to 1942 N.A. would be more work; there are actually some pretty substantial TOE and equipment changes that have to be modeled for the game to properly represent 1942 formations. Lots of new terrain as well. Overall, I wouldn't expect a N.A. game anytime soon unless BFC changes its mind and decides to bump one of the other titles already on the "roadmap." It could happen; they've changed their minds before. But I wouldn't consider it particularly likely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkEzra Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Count me in...it's a great theater/time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper117 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I'd buy it in a shot!... rather that than more eastern front stuff! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 The great thing about NA Theatre is that it's designed for mobile and armored combat. It would be (Inshallah) less infantry-centric... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 ...the events from 1942 with Operation Crusader,Tobruk,El Alamein... Er, Crusader was in 1941. And you left out Gazala, which was in '42. But yes, I'd buy an NA game in the time it takes to grab my credit card. :cool: Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 It would be great to start with O'Connor's blitzkrieg defeat of the Italians and then the arrival of Rommel and his attack out of El Agheila. This is where it would be so great if we could use terrain from CMSF in a CM WW2 era game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Loved AK. Nothing like long range shootouts where the hits are few and far between. And two more words: Dust. Columns. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Al Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 And lots of lovely early war tanks and a/c's. Yes, please. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 This is where it would be so great if we could use terrain from CMSF in a CM WW2 era game. The thing is, the terrain over which the campaign was fought was highly varied, ranging from rugged—even steep—rocky ground to level firm ground covered with gravel to sandy. Some areas, such as the northern parts of Algeria and Tunisia were under cultivation and green, whereas further inland could be dry desert wastes. The Libyan Plateau could be dry and dusty for most of the year and muddy during the winter rains, followed by a brief flowering of desert plants. All this could make for a very interesting game if BFC decided to tackle it and managed to get it all together, but let's not underestimate the amount of work involved to do it right. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Agreed. Everything is a lot of work. Nonetheless, there is a demand for NA in the same way as a demand for Bulge. I believe Bulge is planned (and I look forward to it). However, I don't see too many requests for it. The issue with the current crop of CM2 WW2 series is that so much of it looks kinda the same with different uniforms, weapons and vehicles. It doesn't make a lot of difference (to me) which of the current CM2 WW2 titles I am playing. Bulge would be kinda like CMBN/CMFI in dense woods - the main difference is that it would be in winter. NA would be as different as playing CMSF and it would be a huge change (and therefore refreshing). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizou Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I would by any NA games released in a heart beat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Joch Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I would love to see North Africa 1940-43 as well. I have quite a few books on the theater. It did not work that well in CMAK, but I think CMSF shows that CMx2 handles desert warfare quite well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 In the past, Steve has expressed a marked dislike for the idea of going back to North Africa. I think I remember seeing that stance has softened a little, but as has been said, there's a lot of stuff in NA that's not in any of the x2 titles so far, so it would be a very large undertaking. Maybe as the German equipment for earlier years gets completed in the Eastern Front families, North Africa will become doable. Though there's a lot of Allied hardware that will need building, far more than was needed for FI... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 For the record I too would really like to see a return to North Africa - just in case Steve is counting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Ditto, I too would prefer North Africa to Bulge - but I guess a lot of that is also due to the fact that I think the early war is more interesting - the differing tactical challenges from the equipment of the period cover a lot more ground. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Ditto, I too would prefer North Africa to Bulge - but I guess a lot of that is also due to the fact that I think the early war is more interesting - the differing tactical challenges from the equipment of the period cover a lot more ground. I'd take France 1940 then. The desert holds little appeal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I'd take France 1940 then. The desert holds little appeal. Well, yes, obviously France 1940 is the Holy Grail. I was trying to be realistic about what I might get to see in the next couple of years... France 1940 > Barbarossa > North Africa / Kursk > Bulge would be my preferred sequence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I'd be all over it and anything early war. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazing 88's Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 ...France 1940 > Barbarossa > North Africa / Kursk > Bulge would be my preferred sequence. North Africa > Barbarossa > France 1940 / Kursk would be mine, but that won't be happening so... I have no interest in the Bulge or really anything late 44 to Berlin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUCASWILLEN05 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I'd certainly like a Kursk title at some point soon. Also a "Fall Blau" which actually covers May 1942 - March 1943 along the entire Russian Front. And yes, a Battlerfront Blitzkrieg, Battlefront Siegfried Line... But these may be some ime. Why don't Battlefront run a poll on titles we want maybe a couple of times a year. Just a thought - it may indicate what their customer base wants. Maybe attach a grade from 1 (least interested) to 10 (Most interested) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChappyCanuck Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 The NA Theatre is high on my personal list. Of course you could also throw the Crete campaign into the mix as well as a "what if" invasion of Malta. Bring it on! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I'd certainly like a Kursk title at some point soon. I think that is planned as the next WW II East Front family. Also a "Fall Blau" which actually covers May 1942 - March 1943 along the entire Russian Front. And that as the next family after the '43 one. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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