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BBC:

Wagner forces have halted advance on Moscow - reports

Wagner mercenary leader Yevgeny Prigozhin has put out a voice note on his Telegram channel saying he has has agreed to "stop" the movement of his troops who are advancing on the Russian capital.

Where does Lukashenko fit into this? 

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Just now, kevinkin said:

BBC:

Wagner forces have halted advance on Moscow - reports

Wagner mercenary leader Yevgeny Prigozhin has put out a voice note on his Telegram channel saying he has has agreed to "stop" the movement of his troops who are advancing on the Russian capital.

Where does Lukashenko fit into this? 

It is clamed he conducted the negotations.

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1 minute ago, benpark said:

"Reports there will be major changes in Russian Ministry of Defense leadership in exchange for Wagner halting its advance on Moscow"

Time for an old school Soviet purge?

Is this real?

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AFAIK it is not officially confirmed yet

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3 minutes ago, Grigb said:

It might be a Putin-approved performance to get rid of Shoigy and Gerasimov

But Putin appointed them… Attack on them is an attack on Putin. Putin's reputation is in shambles. Not sure what is Prigozhin thinking here, but let's see what he does not what he says.

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it is all still a big win for Ukraine.  Russian forces are in disarray and the infighting is only going to get worse. I expect Putin is going to want another purge of anyone associated to Wagner.  Morale for troops on the frontline has got to have gotten worse and once it is clear that even if Shoigu and Gerasimov aren't in charge, the RA still doesn't have a plan, what then?

Also the fact that Wagner could move around pretty much at will has got to have Putin freaked, so what does he do now to try and secure his position?

And what of the Wagner troops, really think this was the plan all along?  What happens to them now?

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Just now, Sekai said:

But Putin appointed them… Attack on them is an attack on Putin. Putin's reputation is in shambles. Not sure what is Prigozhin thinking here, but let's see what he does not what he says.

I suspect Putin wanted to sacrifice them a long time ago due to RU Nat demands. But he could not do in a normal way through resignation as they did nothing wrong (they did what he told them to do). Hence the performance. 

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3 minutes ago, Grigb said:

We still got 6 downed helicopters and one very valuable coms aircraft.

Something to soften the bitter pill.

Let's hope it will just have some internal consequences for russians.

Problem is - they will most likely replace shoigu and gerasimov with Wagner guys. And those are far more competent.

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2 minutes ago, sburke said:

What happens to them now?

Maybe Prigozhin negotiated placing Wargner in some form of reserve role for the time being. Rest and re-fit. That’s a lot of troops to pull out of the line. But perhaps with rotation he might become God-like to his workers. Sure a few nightclubs would love the cash.  
 

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2 minutes ago, Sekai said:

Uhh, but Putin appointed them… Attack on them is an attack on Putin. Putin's reputation is in shambles. Not sure what is Prigozhin thinking here, but let's see what he does not what he says.

This is my thought as well.  Too much display of regime weakness, especially because Prig now gets credit for forcing change and Putin only did it because the barrel of a gun was aimed at him.

If this were a Putin move he should have had Prig's guys "mutiny" in place, not march on Moscow.  This would have not shown the regime itself to be weak and totally inept.

So I still am calling this a coup.  Plus, it is NOT over.

Prig has only agreed to stop moving on Moscow.  He has not ordered his guys to disband, pull back to some base, or anything like that.  This is akin to what Putin would have done in Ukraine if Zelensky had given into negotiations; Russian troops might stop moving and fighting, but they would be sitting there getting ready to act again if necessary.

Steve

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Warlords....we have been acting like they must toss Putin from power, but it's not exactly clear cut as that, as any usurper would lack any legitimacy domestically or internationally. Legitimacy matters for the normal functioning of state, from which the money flows for the powerful. If Prig can toss his enemies in the MoD, ensure his power and authority increase, he doesn't need to overthrow or kill Putin necessarily. Will he need to look around for knives? Sure but I feel like he understands that and is fine with it.

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