Battlefront.com Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, sburke said: lol yeah I'd really want the enemy handling my logistics when it is already a weak point. Then you have to use manpower to guard them anyway. There is just no good way to spin this. What a gawdawful excuse for an army. I think we all know that a Russian soldier should expect a little something extra in his coffee or meal if Ukrainians are put on kitchen duty. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, chrisl said: I’m starting to wonder if Russia went into this with their forces on the wrong side of a 2:3 or even 1:2 without realizing it. And now they’ve suffered documented 20-25% casualties against the paper TOE, but much higher (35-40%?) against the actual manpower they had. The understrength BTGs may have started with even less than suspected, or be more widespread. For sure this is true in some units. Definitely. When I've done calcs I've presumed a BTG to be at about 75% strength. I too am wondering how many cases where that figure is too high. As you say, if a unit's real strength starts off 50% then we need to be applying rule of thumb combat effectiveness calculations on that number, not the paper strength number. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 2 hours ago, kraze said: A country of thugs and thieves. I keep coming back to this one. I keep hearing this Russian accented "Newman!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisl Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said: Some UGVs have semi-autonomous driving capabilities. The operator sets waypoints and the vehicle is capable of navigating "best path" to get there provided the path isn't inherently unworkable (oh, say like the Dniper being smack in the middle!). One application of this is for cargo UGVs to go between a rearward supply point and forward reception area. Some UGVs are also equipped with a "follow me" capability which allows one operator to control a train of UGVs by directing the first one and the rest dutifully mimicking its path. There is even full autonomous UGV capabilities where the operator specifies an end point and the vehicle determines how best to get there. These modes are optional and some UGVs have all of them. Steve Starting to sound an awful lot like CM, but with the unit locations and movement fed back from real world sensors displaying what’s actually happening instead of virtual world models… (Edit: and with modern sensors making borg spotting realistic) Edited April 17, 2022 by chrisl 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 This is not a good sign for the Russians: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huba Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said: I think we all know that a Russian soldier should expect a little something extra in his coffee or meal if Ukrainians are put on kitchen duty. Steve You mean like this? Welcomng them with flowers, big time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Just now, chrisl said: Starting to sound an awful lot like CM, but with the unit locations and movement fed back from real world sensors displaying what’s actually happening instead of virtual world models… Yup! Which is why integrating UGVs into Combat Mission isn't that hard to do Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Just now, Huba said: You mean like this? Welcomng them with flowers, big time. There was another one from the north reported weeks ago which stated that something like 70 Russian soldiers had to be hospitalized. IIRC it was poisoned cake. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said: Some UGVs have semi-autonomous driving capabilities. The operator sets waypoints and the vehicle is capable of navigating "best path" to get there provided the path isn't inherently unworkable (oh, say like the Dniper being smack in the middle!). One application of this is for cargo UGVs to go between a rearward supply point and forward reception area. Some UGVs are also equipped with a "follow me" capability which allows one operator to control a train of UGVs by directing the first one and the rest dutifully mimicking its path. There is even full autonomous UGV capabilities where the operator specifies an end point and the vehicle determines how best to get there. These modes are optional and some UGVs have all of them. Steve And on top of all that, if the UGV is replacing a tank, its remote operators replace the tank crew... and the tank crew would've had to be there to do the driving, just the same... "Autonomy" reduces the need for continual control, but nobody thinks it'll eliminate it entirely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commanderski Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 2 hours ago, acrashb said: And on another note, sanctions are working: Russia suspends production of anti-aircraft missile systems - intelligence (ukrinform.net) The article states that "employees are given a choice: to go on unpaid leave or sign a contract with the armed forces to participate in the war in Ukraine. The recommended position is an 'operator-gunner' of a Buk missile system. The proposed salary is 50,000 roubles a month," the statement said." 50,000 rubles is $603.50 in USD at the moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Its my growing impression that Putin's 'grand strategy' is to run Ukraine out of bullets, artillery shells and AT missiles by providing a unending stream of cannon fodder troops for them to shoot. After the Ukrainians' ammo is depleted the remaining Russians, in theory, win by default. That, at least appeared to be their way of fighting in Mariupol, and may be the reason behind their fruitless mini-assaults along the front. Russian soldier morale is beside the point if your objective is to get the enemy to use up all of his ammo killing them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrashb Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said: Yup! Which is why integrating UGVs into Combat Mission isn't that hard to do So we are going to get a 'follow me' command to facilitate convoy movement? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 OK, so we've all seen the Chechen videos where they're blowing through ammo against non-existent targets. Like the one below (with appropriate sound track added). However, it just struck me that this is an allegory for the Russian mindset towards war generally. Which is that firepower = strength. Want to look strong? Show some firepower. Ukrainians, on the other hand, spend the bulk of their time uploading videos of the destruction (friendly and enemy), of people surviving the Hell around them, and of course tons of humor. To me this reflects the differences between the Russians and the Ukrainians pretty accurately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, acrashb said: So we are going to get a 'follow me' command to facilitate convoy movement? We have one, but we pulled it from Upgrade 4 because even our testers couldn't help but to misuse it and then say "fix or do somefink!". We took a poll and we agreed to remove it. Upon request we enabled it for the Pro version because those guys have the discipline to use it correctly Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrashb Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Just now, Battlefront.com said: Upon request we enabled it for the Pro version because those guys have the discipline to use it correctly You're killing me. So now I need to retool my career and join an armed forces and/or three-letter agency just to get a follow me! Well, if that's the worst news I get today it isn't a bad day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 If it makes you feel better, it does have some limitations. I can see why it got pulled, and so can all my vehicles that ended up in ditches 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Bijlsma Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said: We have one, but we pulled it from Upgrade 4 because even our testers couldn't help but to misuse it and then say "fix or do somefink!". We took a poll and we agreed to remove it. Upon request we enabled it for the Pro version because those guys have the discipline to use it correctly Steve Are you sure about that?! https://www.paudal.com/2022/04/16/accident-with-dutch-patriot-convoy-in-the-czech-republic/ Convoy driving is hard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Steppenwulf Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 27 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said: There was another one from the north reported weeks ago which stated that something like 70 Russian soldiers had to be hospitalized. IIRC it was poisoned cake. 'Red Forest dust' - a highly sought after ingredient, and very special treat! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 8 hours ago, Taranis said: Russian soldiers walk on a street in Mariupol, April 12, 2022, as Russian troops step up their campaign to take the strategic port city, part of a massive assault planned in eastern Ukraine, while the Russian president defends the war against his neighbor. ALEXANDER NEMENOV / AFP * What camouflae is it ? Is it Separatists or navy ? Hard to tell, but it looks like the Russian knock-off of A-TACS. I've seen quite a lot of Kadyrov's guys wearing it to the point where it looks to possibly be their dominant uniform. MULTICAM knock-offs being the other one. So my guess is the above picture is of Chechens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Elmar Bijlsma said: Are you sure about that?! https://www.paudal.com/2022/04/16/accident-with-dutch-patriot-convoy-in-the-czech-republic/ Convoy driving is hard. Heh. I meant virtual Pros, not the real ones behind the wheels You might have missed a lot of joking at the beginning of this war that Combat Mission's convoy behavior might be unrealistically good Steve P.S. dare I say that I'm happy to see your posts again? Yes, I dare. "I am happy to see your posts again". There, I said it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said: Combat Mission's convoy behavior might be unrealistically good After spending an hour or so last night in RT arranging two fairly large but not huge columns with pauses etc. I can only keep my fingers crossed. Something will go wrong obviously, but hopefully nothing serious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Bijlsma Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 We 2 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said: Heh. I meant virtual Pros, not the real ones behind the wheels You might have missed a lot of joking at the beginning of this war that Combat Mission's convoy behavior might be unrealistically good Steve P.S. dare I say that I'm happy to see your posts again? Yes, I dare. "I am happy to see your posts again". There, I said it. It is good to be back and nice to be welcomed back. Hang on to that happiness for when I start banging on again about long form campaigns. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 If google maps is pointing me to the right places, the Ukrainians are pushing back on a ten or twenty mile front southeast of Kharkiv, or at least on two axis of attack ~twenty miles apart. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FancyCat Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Ukraine stated a referendum is slated for May 1 - 10 in Kherson for a new Republic, I would hope Ukraine can retake it before then. Is the best map https://liveuamap.com/ or ISW for the latest developments? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinophile Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 51 minutes ago, Hapless said: If it makes you feel better, it does have some limitations. I can see why it got pulled, and so can all my vehicles that ended up in ditches Well then it should be hard coded if you're playing Russians. On easy. With elite veterans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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