Fenris Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Someone was asking about under barrel grenade launchers somewhere in the thread... Well here's some being used to do something 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenris Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) Interesting to see the rounds coming in. Note the UI is in English, so I assume this is a UKR operated UAV. Edit for version with details in English Edited March 23, 2022 by Fenris 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db_zero Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, danfrodo said: The positive side of declaring Putin a war criminal (hopefully also designated a terrorist) is that it can be used to dissuade countries and companies from doing business w Putin. It's not the best optics to have folks posting that one is doing new deal w war criminal. IMO has zero effects. The sanctions and threat of siding with a pariah nation has far more effect. Look at China. You think they could care less about siding with a war criminal? No it’s the threat of sanctions and cutoff of trade with the west that is keeping them at bay. Russias economy is tiny and even if China went full bore in trading with Russia it would be just a fraction of trade with Europe and America. People who know Putin the best have mentioned he will become more dangerous if cornered. If he was a leader that didn’t have nukes that’s one thing, unfortunately he has plenty of them. Maybe Putin is bluffing and has no intentions of using nukes if cornered, but if he’s not… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BletchleyGeek Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Battlefront.com said: Tactical combat drives operational results which in turn determine the strategic picture. Having the best strategic or operational sim in the world means nothing if the tactical modeling for them isn't reasonably accurate. My sense is that the people making these higher level sims don't appreciate that as much as they should. I suspect the modeling found in higher level games is deliberately aimed at producing "average" results, not exceptional ones. This might be OK if the generalized assumptions for each force are more-or-less correct, but if not then it produces "abnormal averages". That's garbage out. As mentioned earlier, every CM player knows that attacking with an inferior quality force over difficult terrain against a high quality and well armed defender is not easy even with superior numbers. And even with superior numbers, a victory generally means lots and lots of friendly losses. You are quoting Maréchal Lannes there, Steve. There may be earlier people recognising this but I am not aware of them. One factor to keep in mind is that professional wargaming often is conducted "manually", the players must be the "computers" executing the game rules. So you can't really ask from people to be switching between "compute shortest path" think mode to "design and evaluate courses of action for a formation of units". Back in the day there were minions moving pieces and doing the menial work, but I think that nowadays things are more democratic as in "everybody gets to do fun things". So if humans are the computers, there is a strong incentive towards "streamlining" to speed up play and get player's focus on "what matters". Following up the @TheVulture comments, the designers then have to choose what factors and interactions to keep and which ones to drop to avoid exceeding the "computational complexity budget". As with narrow AI, this process of "making ends meet means" most often leads to games/models to be very sensitive to changes in the "conditions" and "task", as you say. Interestingly, nowadays you get computer based wargames that are split between having black box abstractions that boil down units to a few numbers (average is 3 or 4) or games that pretend to be "white box" abstractions where units are modelled down to every element but the data used to describe them are often a "best guess" or an ill defined concept (e.g. "ROF", "accuracy"). I think both approaches are dead ends, for different reasons. It is interesting that in the 1960s there were interesting middle grounds being explored. Look up an old RAND Corporation war game called TACSPIEL. Edited March 23, 2022 by BletchleyGeek 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerKommissar Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) Word is that Shoigu is experiencing an onset of heart problems... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10642949/Furious-Putin-begins-witch-hunt-inner-circle-growing-wary-close-allies.html Edited March 23, 2022 by DerKommissar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, DerKommissar said: Word is that Shoigu is experiencing an onset of heart problems... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10642949/Furious-Putin-begins-witch-hunt-inner-circle-growing-wary-close-allies.html "falling" out of a fifth-floor window is known to a have a serious detrimental effect on your heart. If I were Shoigu, I'd have been on one of those flights to UAE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Pretty soon Ukraine will issue ATGMs to arm pensioners in wheel chairs simply because everybody else over 18 already has one: Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenris Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Count this one as a mission kill? Hope no one was hurt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, DerKommissar said: Word is that Shoigu is experiencing an onset of heart problems... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10642949/Furious-Putin-begins-witch-hunt-inner-circle-growing-wary-close-allies.html Their list is a bit short but there was one we didn't have @Haiduk any info on this guy? Major Viktor Maksimchuk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Thread full of very interesting radio intercepts and some footage of drones and results in Markiv. Some recent some stretching back to the beginning of the war: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbindc Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Worth noting that this move will have one pretty bad effect for Moscow: it will potentially annul gas/oil contracts with EU nations who will refuse to resign for similar sized contracts at the same rates. Classic example of short term gain for long term self sabotage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, sburke said: @Haiduk any info on this guy? Major Viktor Maksimchuk I posted about him... He got lost 6-7th of March near or in Mariupol. Russian media claims he was regimental commander, but I doubt because his rank is too low for this. Probably one of deputies of regimental commander, or battalion commaner. Artilce in Russian media: https://ngs.ru/text/world/2022/03/15/70509359/ Edited March 23, 2022 by Haiduk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Fenris said: Someone was asking about under barrel grenade launchers somewhere in the thread... Well here's some being used to do something 1 in 4 grenades functioned. Hmm… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, keas66 said: Well Schroder has only just become Chancellor . I imagine a large part of the blame for this state of affairs rests with the Last Chancellor ? Schröder was Chancellor from 1998 to 2005, followed by a certain wife and since 10/2021 Scholz is Chancellor. The problems with german energy politics are all rooted between 2005 and 2021 involving decisions to completely exit nuclear energy until 2022 due to Fukushima (2011) and total exit of coal generated energy (2020) until 2035. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlammenwerferX Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Is the MBT era over? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keas66 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, DesertFox said: Schröder was Chancellor from 1998 to 2005, followed by a certain wife and since 10/2021 Scholz is Chancellor. The problems with german energy politics are all rooted between 2005 and 2021 involving decisions to completely exit nuclear energy until 2022 due to Fukushima (2011) and total exit of coal generated energy (2020) until 2035. Yeah my bad - I caught the capital "S" and assumed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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danfrodo Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said: Pretty soon Ukraine will issue ATGMs to arm pensioners in wheel chairs simply because everybody else over 18 already has one: Steve This is same AT4 we have in CMBS, yes? Not my favorite weapon but pretty good in a pinch. Seems it works well against light armor but not MBTs, correct? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Picture of a Russian supermarket somewhere along the Finnish border. OK, we saw some similar (though not as dramatic) pictures in the West as the initial pandemic panic hit (we had people driving 2.5 hours away to shop at our grocery store), but here's the difference... Russia has been completely cut off from replacements for some of the food items. I suspect the closer a store is to a border the more affected it will be as I'm sure they have a higher percentage of cross border products than, say, a supermarket in Tashkent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Battlefront.com said: Picture of a Russian supermarket somewhere along the Finnish border. OK, we saw some similar (though not as dramatic) pictures in the West as the initial pandemic panic hit (we had people driving 2.5 hours away to shop at our grocery store), but here's the difference... Russia has been completely cut off from replacements for some of the food items. I suspect the closer a store is to a border the more affected it will be as I'm sure they have a higher percentage of cross border products than, say, a supermarket in Tashkent. So next decade they will eat only Borschtsch and Okroshka? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Part of it was linked earlier, but this whole NYT thread is worth reading: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, DesertFox said: Seems like they hit a jackpot with this one: DesertFox, Will it arrive gift wrapped with a thank you note from Zelensky for all the goodies the US has provided, or did we have to pay for it so Ukraine can buy even more items it needs on the open market? To be clear, we're getting the C3ISR processing part only, the command van, but not the combined jamming and receiving portion. Krasukha-4 is a dire threat to Bayraktar TB2. Armenia lost nine TB2s to this system in a week! Regards, John Kettler Edited March 24, 2022 by John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danfrodo Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, DesertFox said: So next decade they will eat only Borschtsch and Okroshka? This could get to be fun in a hurry. Food riots. Hopefully the west can weather the inflation and other shortages, which are all much much less than what will hit Russia (I hope). They need us a lot more than we need them going forward. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Two very interesting articles in The Economist. This one is about the current state of diplomatic negotiations. In short, Ukraine is willing to yield to some demands but Russia doesn't appear interested in doing the same. So we're where we were weeks ago: https://www.economist.com/europe/2022/03/23/ukraines-government-is-willing-to-make-big-concessions-to-end-the-war Ukraine's Foreign Minister talks about the loopholes and "half measures" embedded in some of the West's sanctions and armaments. An interesting tidbit in there is that the Russian negotiators spend quite a bit of time talking about sanctions, the lifting of which is part of Russia's "peace deal" talking points: https://www.economist.com/europe/2022/03/22/ukraines-foreign-minister-warns-of-faltering-european-resolve Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db_zero Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) Watched a BBC report. Poles are enlisting into the military at a high rate and across Europe enlistment is up 7%. Also speculation that a large multinational European force once proposed but never really acted upon may become a reality. A few think eventually Germany may become a big military power again…. Edited March 23, 2022 by db_zero 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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