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6 minutes ago, Haiduk said:

Russians are turning Kharkiv and other towns of Kharkiv oblast in ruines

The building of Kahrkiv university campus

senseless destructive vandalism. 

Zelensky...Russia: Learn the word reparation.  "We will restore every house, every street, every house"

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1 minute ago, Bulletpoint said:

It seems on the situation maps on BBC that the front line has moved away from Kyiv in recent days.

Just now - 72nd brigade have defeated Ruusian troops near Baryshivka, east from Kyiv. Two armored vehicles destroyed, three abandoned, Russians scatterd. Yesterday forward Russian group advanced from Pryluky direction and came close to Brovary town (10 km from Kyiv), they even made a probe on Brovary checkpoint, but withdrew and stood in Peremoha village, expecting support. Next column arrived soon throug Baryshivka, but after they crossed, the bridge over Trubizh river was demolised and Russian east group near Kyiv turned out in the trap.

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Some news of air-defense.

During last evening and the night there are 4 Russian missiles were intercepted over Kyiv. One of them - over Central railroad stattion, but the missile flew to MoD building, not on the station

Su-30SM was shot down over Irpin' today's morning

Su-34 was shot down over Volnovakha two hours ago

 

CBS group filmed a moment of interception over Kyiv

 

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Defence of Ukraine@DefenceUThe enemy does not go unpunished. Allied artillerymen inflict heavy fire damage, destroying columns and clusters of Russian occupying forces 🔥

. Ukrainian artillery works as always clearly, accurately and as efficiently as possible.0:0365K views5:18 AM · Mar 3, 2022 ·Twitter for iPhone599 Retweets49 Quote Tweets3,258 Likes

 

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36 minutes ago, Lethaface said:

However, in my experience with Russian people they are ordinary people like the rest of the world. Every three has rotten apples. Unfortunately these have concentrated at top of the leadership pyramid in Russia.

As we have seen in the past, for example Germany before and during WW2, at times the conditions for a people are such that they can 'let' these things happen. That doesn't mean that all / most Russians by heart are the same as the policy of their country.
May peace be with you and Ukraine.

If russians are ordinary people and only top of the leadership of Russia is bad - then who are those 800k serving in russian army and another 800k in reserves? Is it putin firing Grads at apartment blocks?

But most importantly - who lets putin stay in power for 22 years and all other bloodthirsty dictators before that?

If russians are against the war - then why are they doing literally nothing?

In Germany allies forced "ordinary" germans to bury all the people they murdered or at least forced them to come to concentration camps and stare at what they've done. While also forcing germans to pay reparations for decades to come. Not to mention that bastards felt at least some part of how it felt for their victims when allies entered Germany.

If "ordinary russians" are not at fault - then how come they always pick the worst bastards to lead them for the past 300 years?

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22 minutes ago, kraze said:

If "ordinary russians" are not at fault - then how come they always pick the worst bastards to lead them for the past 300 years?

You can say this about many countries. People vote for a leader who is promising something, and maybe even has good intentions, and later on that leader, and his government, is "convinced" by business men and bankers to follow another way in how to lead the country. Or people are voting for A but B is using certain methods to make sure he wins.

So that Putin has been the Russian president for almost 20 years, except for the short time when he was a Prime, and later on decided that he should be leader for life, or whatever decision that was made some years ago, and politicians were bribed or threatened to allow that can't be blaimed on the common drab in the country.

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6 hours ago, Battlefront.com said:

Yes, and we have at least $400b in looted Russian treasure that could be used to make that peace work better.

Steve

I wonder if someone in the EU is running a cost/benefit analysis right now of going to war with Russia.

  • The Russian army is stretched, looks logistically and geographically challenged
  • The influx of refugees will stretch humanitarian relief efforts
  • The Russian economic condition is collapsing
  • Russian assets have been identified
  • The cost of rebuilding Ukraine goes up my the minute
  • The mood of the EU is galvanized on a threat

 

 

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Video about the opinion of these particular russian soldiers about their invasion.

I wonder how they will react once they return home, if they in fact do, and see what has been the posture of its State towards this war. This  """lesson" published by the Russian ministry of Education is some of the more Orwellian **** I have seen in a long time. Supposedly its going to get integrated, or atleast the general idea, in the curriculum of Russian schools:

 

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9 minutes ago, riptides said:

I wonder if someone in the EU is running a cost/benefit analysis right now of going to war with Russia.

  • The Russian army is stretched, looks logistically and geographically challenged
  • The influx of refugees will stretch humanitarian relief efforts
  • The Russian economic condition is collapsing
  • Russian assets have been identified
  • The cost of rebuilding Ukraine goes up my the minute
  • The mood of the EU is galvanized on a threat

 

 

Even if Putin were the only soldier in the whole army, EU wouldn't attack Russia.

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10 minutes ago, BornGinger said:

You can say this about many countries. People vote for a leader who is promising something, and maybe even has good intentions, and later on that leader, and his government, is "convinced" by business men and bankers to follow another way in how to lead the country. Or people are voting for A but B is using certain methods to make sure he wins.

So that Putin has been the Russian president for almost 20 years, except for the short time when he was a Prime, and later on decided that he should be leader for life, or whatever decision that was made some years ago, and politicians were bribed or threatened to allow that can't be blaimed on the common drab in the country.

I'm sorry but no. If "ordinary people" aren't happy with someone in power - they get rid of that guy.

If they don't - they are happy with the guy.

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Bucha town, which was contested area all these days now completely our. State Emergency Service could start evacuation of civilains from this yown and nearby Irpin'

 

Our troops on recaptured Hostomel airfield in February. On next day it was again taken by Russians.

 

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23 minutes ago, kraze said:

I'm sorry but no. If "ordinary people" aren't happy with someone in power - they get rid of that guy.

If they don't - they are happy with the guy.

There have been demonstrations against leaders in many countries and politicians have done what they can to remove the leader they don't like. That is all according to the law.

If later on USA or Russia, or another country, is removing the leader in a non-lawful way just to put their puppet on the throne won't make things better.

And even if the people would revolt and imprison or kill the hated leader and put a loved new leader in the office, there's always the possibility that bankers and businessmen will "convince" him to go back to the former way of leading the country.

Just look at what has happened in history where there was a revolt and the bad leader was removed. The new one(s) didn't make life better for the people.

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4 hours ago, kraze said:

Russians live and breathe the war.

The failure to understand that is the reason you read the list of non-stop tragedies and crimes above.

Sorry, but the modern Russian people have not once been tested with a real war.  These are all small wars that cost nothing from the standpoint of the average Russian citizen, and steeped in constant propaganda, what reason was there to question their leader’s wisdom?  Now the boys will start coming homing in zinc like it is the 80s again (but maybe times ten) and the Russian economy will completely implode.  These are all just and right things, but there is the potential to bring about enormous change in the attitudes of everyday Russians.

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4 hours ago, Armorgunner said:

😄😄😄

 

4 hours ago, Bulletpoint said:

 

New game coming soon?

Combat Mission: Paper Bear

From here on out all my quick battle setting for the Russians in Black Sea will be Conscript, low morale, low fitness. -2 leadership.

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