Sgt.Squarehead Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Sequoia said: Now now, let's not get greedy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IICptMillerII Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) This all looks amazing. Shock Force is easily one of my favorite CM games, and this upgrade is my most anticipated upcoming release. I would have been happy with an engine update, so the new content and TO&E tweaks being added or potentially added is a great bonus. Also very glad to hear that the trenches will remain in game as ditches. The more options the better. It's going to be a long two months waiting for this. Forgot to mention, but the $35 price tag is a steal! Edited June 2, 2018 by IICptMillerII 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) I just did some checking.....Predator had been in service over a decade at the time of the setting and Reaper had recently become operational (Gray Eagle was still a couple of years in the future). But should these assets be made available to battlefield commanders on the ground? Presumably, in this instance that would be a BFC call.....It's their setting after all. But damn it would be cool. Edited June 2, 2018 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOS:96B2P Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 8 hours ago, Battlefront.com said: the Raven should be available to the US side. The Brits had a handful in 2007 so we might do them as well If that means what I think it means......... YES!!! Thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offshoot Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 On 6/2/2018 at 10:08 AM, MikeyD said: Just pointing out something in those screenshots. In some the horizon mountains are off in the distance while in others the mountains are close. Hmmm... interesting. Interesting. Same goes for the CM:FI screenies and perhaps the 4th new CM:RT screenshot. So a patch thing? Is the tabletop floating in the void soon going to be a thing of the past? Or have the fields of view just been cunningly contrived? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Occam's razor. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 The horizon background now starts where the map ends? Mord. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 I think it's variable horizon high or low depending on a new scenario setting. Perhaps even more than two. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 CMSF2 now has two Regions; lowlands and highlands (or whatever we labeled them). There's no real difference between the two (unlike the European Regions which have tons of differences) except for the graphical backdrop. It's an atmospheric choice, nothing more involved than that As for the Predator, it's a strategic weapon that tends to be used for high value targets that can't be reached by other means. CIA and strategic USAF missions aren't within CM's scope of operations. CMBS does, however, include the MQ-1C Grey Eagle armed drone because that one is operated by the US Army and is more likely to be used in combination with ground operations. It only came into service in 2009 so that's too late for CMSF2's time period. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Awh, Steve, I wanted to keep 'em guessing! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanov Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 On 01/06/2018 at 6:53 PM, DougPhresh said: Spot the Canadian: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 hour ago, MikeyD said: Awh, Steve, I wanted to keep 'em guessing! Didn't I already get it right! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandur Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) i have the same problem as "Lethaface", in my battlefront store only my marines and british module show up. but not CMSF. i buy it day 1 more or less, i remember there was something with e-licence and this system was retired or changed like 6 month later and the store changed too or so. so i think thats why my CMSF(no key) does not show up in the store. what do i have to do to resolve this? does this need to be resolved even? also i dont quiet understand the upgrade system, i have CMSF+marines+british but not NATO .. in CMSF2 i want to have everything cause i want the new NATO toys i never play before. do i just buy the full upgrade? or do i buy full upgrade + NATO on top? Edited June 4, 2018 by Pandur 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Pandur said: i have the same problem as "Lethaface", in my battlefront store only my marines and british module show up. but not CMSF. i buy it day 1 more or less, i remember there was something with e-licence and this system was retired or changed like 6 month later and the store changed too or so. so i think thats why my CMSF(no key) does not show up in the store. what do i have to do to resolve this? does this need to be resolved even? also i dont quiet understand the upgrade system, i have CMSF+marines+british but not NATO .. in CMSF2 i want to have everything cause i want the new NATO toys i never play before. do i just buy the full upgrade? or do i buy full upgrade + NATO on top? Don't take this as gospel, but it is similar to the question someone else posted and Steve confirmed the answer. Basically you are able to get discounts on everything you purchased. So you'd get the discounted base +marines+british, but no discount on the NATO module assuming you want it (and you know you do. ) Net result $35 + cost of NATO module which I don't think Steve has listed yet. Steve can sort out your CMSF base - the key is irrelevant anymore - you'll have a new one for CMSF2, but he'll figure out the old one or at least confirm you have it...wouldn't make much sense to have the modules if you didn't Do you have CMSF still installed? I believe if you go to unlicense it will show your key. I wouldn't do that until you are ready to move on juuuuusssssttt in case. Edited June 4, 2018 by sburke 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Battlefront.com said: CIA and strategic USAF missions aren't within CM's scope of operations. Tactical surely.....Compared to a Strike Eagle, these things are a pussy-cat (but one with a LOT of potential utility). 1 hour ago, MikeyD said: Awh, Steve, I wanted to keep 'em guessing! I did do my research Mike, so I had a pretty good idea of how the pros/cons would line up.....Just hoping we can still swing the decision for the sake of future scenario designers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Pretty sure Mike was referring to the horizons in that comment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Hoping so.....Just a Predator would open up whole continents worth of new scenario possibilities (literally), Reaper would be awesome, but that one might be asking a lot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 No Predators. As I said, not within CM's scope. Predators have not been used for tactical air support, which is the only thing that's relevant to CM. Even during the height of the counter insurgency, which is much more amenable to drone usage, I don't think they were used in support of ground ops. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) Boo.....Entirely understandable of course, but boo nevertheless. Surely won't stop me buying it and that's a fact.....Any new modules planned for this one yet? One with more drones would be good! PS - I know, I know.....I'm droning on a bit. Edited June 4, 2018 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandur Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, sburke said: Don't take this as gospel, but it is similar to the question someone else posted and Steve confirmed the answer. Basically you are able to get discounts on everything you purchased. So you'd get the discounted base +marines+british, but no discount on the NATO module assuming you want it (and you know you do. ) Net result $35 + cost of NATO module which I don't think Steve has listed yet. Steve can sort out your CMSF base - the key is irrelevant anymore - you'll have a new one for CMSF2, but he'll figure out the old one or at least confirm you have it...wouldn't make much sense to have the modules if you didn't Do you have CMSF still installed? I believe if you go to unlicense it will show your key. I wouldn't do that until you are ready to move on juuuuusssssttt in case. thanks, its all clear now! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IICptMillerII Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Battlefront.com said: No Predators. As I said, not within CM's scope. Predators have not been used for tactical air support, which is the only thing that's relevant to CM. Even during the height of the counter insurgency, which is much more amenable to drone usage, I don't think they were used in support of ground ops. Steve The only time I can think of off the top of my head of a Predator being used in a CAS role was during the battle of Roberts Ridge in Afghanistan, during the beginning of the war. Here is the wiki page of the battle itself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Takur_Ghar Essentially, there was a US chopper shot down with personnel on the ground under attack, and at one point a CIA Predator in the area was re-routed to use its hellfires in close support. That said, I still agree that Predators are beyond the scope of CM. Helicopter gunships essentially provide the same capabilities and more, and there are plenty of other support assets to choose from that accomplish the same mission. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 Yeah, I remember that one. SpecOps with a Predator isn't unusual, though as you say even in this circumstance it was moved into combat more out of desperation than anything else. As you say, from a tactical standpoint there's other Air Support assets that can be drawn from, even though they pack more punch than a single Predator. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 It's all cool for me.....But I do hope a module bringing CM:SF II up to something like the timeframe of CM:BS would be a future possibility, from the looks of the posts we've seen already, you can be sure it would sell pretty well! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Will CMSF 2 have the ability to disarm or jam IEDs (yeah I know I'm asking about a new feature, sorry ) ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Huh! It does have an EW option like CMBS but frankly I don't think anyone's thought to test that out yet with radio IEDs. I'll go run and give it a look. If it works as it ought in the final game it'll be partially because of you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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