Tommo Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Hello all Firstly, as a new player I want to say how much I am enjoying CM. I've owned it for a couple of weeks and have had some great quick battles with some fantastic moments (like knocking out a Panther at point blank range through a hedge). This simulation is exactly what I have been looking for. I owned CM2 Barbarossa to Berlin some years ago but am enjoying BFN even more. My question is, can I select 'Rhino' tanks with hedge cutters in quick battle? I can't see them listed specifically. (I have purchased the vehicle pack.) My second question is, does anyone also play 'Final Blitzkrieg' and if so does it offer sufficient variety to warrant purchase? I'm thinking of getting it but not sure if it is too similar. Sorry if these questions have been asked a million times, but as I'm new to this I'd appreciate any insight you can share. Many thanks and I look forward to being part of this community. Regards Tommo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 You don't say which CM title(s) you already own. If you enjoy playing the Germans, CMFB offers far more opportunities for winter German attacks than CMBN. There are some xnt user-made campaigns and scenarios for FB as well. Also, you get late war equipment. Many of us consider FB one of the best titles. You should check out the CMFB forums. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 Thanks Erwin. I only own CMBFN but also have the Market Garden DLC, plus the Commonwealth Pack, Vehicle Pack and Battle Map pack. I like the look of CMFB with the winter terrain and camo schemes, plus the different maps. I think I may continue with CMBFN for a little while and then inevitably I will succumb in the not too distant and get FB, maybe in a month or so. Regarding my first question, can I select rhino tanks in QB? I have seen them in screen shots but cannot figure how to select. Many thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 You can select Rhino tanks in QB, but it needs to be July or later 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty's Mighty Moustache Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Re Rhinos: the manual will tell you when they are available and what formations have them too. MMM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 4 hours ago, Tommo said: I think I may continue with CMBFN for a little while and then inevitably I will succumb in the not too distant and get FB, maybe in a month or so. Welcome! I think you've correctly interpreted how this works . I was in your position just a couple of years ago, starting with CMRT. Then added CMBN. Then CMFI. And finally CMFB. Anyway, CMFB is a great title. Obviously it's not hugely different to CMBN but it does somehow 'feel' different to me, and has some different assets to play with. The maps, scenarios and campaigns are great even if there are fewer scenarios in FB. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Hapless said: You can select Rhino tanks in QB, but it needs to be July or later Ah, beat me to it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo Posted September 26, 2022 Author Share Posted September 26, 2022 Thanks for the responses. Makes perfect sense now! So I need to set the appropriate time and I can select rhino tanks. Excellent. I have pretty much decided to get CMFB in the next couple of weeks. There is no point me trying to stop the inevitable. Resistance is futile! Thanks again all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMac Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) Actually Tommo, since you already have CMBN + Modules I think you would be better pressed to get CMRT next. This way you can switch on and off between Western and Eastern Front now...Then, next year or thrice get CMFI & CMFB. Joe Edited September 26, 2022 by JoMac 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo Posted September 26, 2022 Author Share Posted September 26, 2022 Thanks Joe, I haven't really looked at CMRT . I will take a look at some videos. I'm going to end up with several CM titles I can see! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Before anybody attacks me, yes, I know the demos are not the latest version of the titles. Try the demos maybe? Have some fun before you lay your money down. https://www.battlefront.com/final-blitzkrieg/cmfb-base-game/?tab=demo https://www.battlefront.com/red-thunder/cmrt-base-game/?tab=demo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landser Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 On 9/25/2022 at 7:45 AM, Tommo said: My second question is, does anyone also play 'Final Blitzkrieg' and if so does it offer sufficient variety to warrant purchase? I'm thinking of getting it but not sure if it is too similar. Welcome to the boards. The answer to the quoted question is quite personal, and you'll need to make that call. Sounds like you've done. For me though I skipped it. I'm jaded perhaps. No, I'm jaded certainly. FB just doesn't offer much new to justify the price for me. Snow, a few new units, maps, later-war armor. Too few campaigns. Maybe there are a lot of single scenarios, but I don't play those, campaigns (and occasional QB) only. I was originally looking forward to FB when it was in development, but over time I became less interested and ultimately gave it a pass. No regrets. But I do have Red Thunder to compliment Normandy, and you should have more than one Combat Mission title I think. Some day, Battlefront will make Combat Mission 2 (or 3 or 4 or 5) that will be a single base game with all new content plugging in and usable interchangeably and then I'd be more likely to keep adding to it. As it is, Shock Force 2 is my most recent purchase with no sign of changing. I wish I was new again so it was exciting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 CMFB haz Stuuuurmtigah. Instant buy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Redwolf said: CMFB haz Stuuuurmtigah. Instant buy. Agreed. You made me just create a QB with Sturmtigers just to watch those single shot building demolitions. Great. Oh and the Jagdtiger is not bad either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 FWIW: I count 9 CMFB campaigns in my folder (includes a training campaign plus user-made downloads). I could only find 5 (non-training) campaigns for CMCW so by comparison that would make it a very unattractive purchase. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danfrodo Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, Erwin said: FWIW: I count 9 CMFB campaigns in my folder (includes a training campaign plus user-made downloads). I could only find 5 (non-training) campaigns for CMCW so by comparison that would make it a very unattractive purchase. It's all about where you want to fight and who you want to be. If you are a cold war person, then you need CMCW no matter what. It definitely sounds like you are a WW2 person, and FB is a must have. Snow, mud, darkness, desperate fighting. Sherman-76, tiger & tiger2, etc. It's all there. The US campaign to clear a path to Bastogne from the south is pretty epic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artkin Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) CMRT has so much content your mind will explode. No, but you will pretty much never play through everything in CMRT + the expansions, + all the user created content. CMFB wasn't too far behind, but now it will be years behind CMRT after preorders are finally over with and the new battle pack releases! 14(? I forget) new master maps! Campaigns that you can break down into regular scenarios and edit them.. etc.. compile them back into a campaign... and they're GeorgeMC maps... they are the best of the best! Dude! By the way you can download custom made maps from other games (CMFI, CMRT) and convert them by using Hex Editor ( ) giving you a near endless supply of scenarios if that wasn't enough. For CMBN, only maps from CMBS, CMRT, CMFB, CMCW, and maybe CMFI should work. And even then, there are some exceptions. You can learn them if you get into mapmaking. Games like CMFI are quirky, and only certain maps will convert to certain games. I'm not sure why. The newer games are all mostly compatible. Cold War will take map conversions like a champion, seemingly no errors with CMBS and friends, but still unable to accept CMFI maps (Last I remember). There is a Monte Cassino map on the forums here if you want to download that, by Sburke, good map! It's a huge *** mountain with a town under it. You can convert that to your games for free. CMRT's files with all the current updates and doodads before the new preorder is sitting at 16.3GB. I think only CMBN, and CMSF2 are similar in size, but CMSF2 is old. Once CMBS gets the marines from CMSF2, and airborne Ukraine/Russian forces, then that will be the next "Game". Edited September 27, 2022 by Artkin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codreanu Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 +1 on getting CMRT next, if you're at all interested in the Eastern front. The amount of good content for it is INSANE, and it feels like a completely different game from CMBN. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modernrocco Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 WELCOME TO THE CM Gang bro! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ales Dvorak Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 On 9/26/2022 at 2:39 PM, Tommo said: There is no point me trying to stop the inevitable. Resistance is futile! Congrats, you've been aCMilated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) On 9/27/2022 at 4:14 PM, Redwolf said: CMFB haz Stuuuurmtigah. Instant buy. I've had CMFB for years now, and I still haven't used or even seen the Sturmtiger As for the original poster's question, yes I think CMBN and CMFB go well together. Those are the CM games I decided to get. But you could also get Normandy for the hedgerow fighting and then another title for the open terrain long distance combat. It depends what part of the war you're most interested in. You could also choose CMRT to include the Red Army instead of the Americans. After that, it becomes a bit of a case of diminishing returns. Al the CM games are basically the same game just in different times and places. Edited September 30, 2022 by Bulletpoint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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