John Kettler Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 It has a KV-1, the first major production model of the T-34/76, the T-34/76 M43 and the T-34/85. All but the last are nasty looking critters long in the field, whereas the T-34/85s look almost brand new, are in a kind of pale olive paint scheme, rather than the typical dark green, and sport crisp clear turret markings to boot. The M43 and the T-34/85 are both too early for the 1942 period of the film, but from a treadhead gloriousness perspective, despite being anachronistic, I doubt you'll care. There are some military technical problems many of you will spot, but again, not movie breakers, and there's so much to see am pretty sure has never been so fully depicted in a war movie. The panzers are well-executed conversions, which is why their fire control arrangements look just like those of the Russians. Suspect special tank interior sets were used, too, but it may be that the typical small stature generally of the Russians makes them look so roomy. Through the Cold War, at least, Soviet tankers weren't allowed to be taller than 5'5", but there's a guy in the film they probably had to grease to fit him in, a task made easier by being TC in a T-34/85. Regards, John Kettler 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadepm Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 The tank commander keeps calling for a "sabot." Did they have that round in '42? I can't find it if they did... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freyberg Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 The first 20 min have been excellent - I'll finish it later for sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vergeltungswaffe Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Saw this recently and I really enjoyed the KV-1 but the tank interiors and the dialog were horrendous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freyberg Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 That was a great movie! And it had a happy ending 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornGinger Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 That film was just as good, or bad if you want, as the film Fury and I was surprised to watch a Russian film with no SS-troops. Or maybe this film had SS-troops in it too, like most Russian films about the war seem to have, and I just missed them. The woman who played Seymon's wife looked very much like Isabella Rossellini. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) wadepm, In every translation I've read, the round is called "arrowhead" and isn't APDS but APCR/HVAP/Hartkern. There was no HEAT, either, just HE frag. The No. 4 round in top pic is arrowhead, so you can see exactly why it was called that. To my best awareness, the Soviets never got APDS fielded during the GPW. Believe they may've gotten a few rounds when the British sent two 17 pounder ATGs over for evaluation under Lend-Lease.https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/192373-overview-russian-anti-tank-ammunition/ Regards, John Kettler Edited February 5, 2020 by John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 The factual basis of "Tankers" is listed below. http://wio.ru/tank/ww2aces.htm This guy knew his trade. Tank kills also includes SPGs. Unsure what to make of the last part about killing 16 somethings in one day. lt. Konovalov Semyon Vasilievich KV-1 ; unknown trophy german panzer 15th tank brigade 22 + 1 tank captured, + 2 arm.cars; inc. 16 on 13th July 1943 Regards. John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) On 2/5/2020 at 3:33 AM, wadepm said: The tank commander keeps calling for a "sabot." Did they have that round in '42? I can't find it if they did... This is wrong translation. Commander said "bronieboinyi" = "armor piercing". For sabot he should have said "podkalibernyi" At 1:05:09 there is also mistake - commander said "fugas" (HE) for half-truck, but subtitles show HEAT - in this case commander should have said "kumuliativnyi" Edited February 8, 2020 by Haiduk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadepm Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Ahhh, makes sense. thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLaurier Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 ooooohhhhhhh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umlaut Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Anyone know which tanks they dressed up as Pz IV´s? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I thought maybe they were models (or digital?). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umlaut Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 59 minutes ago, Erwin said: I thought maybe they were models (or digital?). I dont think so: Then there would be no reason not to get the details right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falaise Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I am not a pro of modern tanks or even tanks of elsewhere, but in view of wheeles (galets) and the gap between the 1st and the following is a T55 I think ! it is good but I prefer "The 28 heroes" they are strong Russian and have an excellent cinema 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grisha Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Konovalov. Yeah, the real deal. There's a plaque for him in Kazan. He ended the war in Germany as a tank battalion commander. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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