Erwin Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Thanks Badger... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncc1701e Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 @Badger73 has also compiled a useful list of things to read for scenario design. It is here: http://www.thefewgoodmen.com/thefgmforum/forums/cm2-scenario-design-section.444/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z1812 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Thanks for doing this. It is nice to have so many resources in one location. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2020 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 As an avid player of the original trio of CM games, I have a very simple question regarding SF2: Is it cheat-proof like the old games? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormDog Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I believe so. I am not aware of any way to cheat the game or when playing another opponent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufo Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rob2020 said: As an avid player of the original trio of CM games, I have a very simple question regarding SF2: Is it cheat-proof like the old games? If you mean the PBEM mode, well one player can cheat because he can use a 1 minute "look into the future". Edited July 9, 2020 by Bufo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 31 minutes ago, Bufo said: If you mean the PBEM mode, well one player can cheat because he can use a 1 minute "look into the future". How would he do that ? It's been i while since i played H2H...but iirc thats not possible... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufo Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, RepsolCBR said: How would he do that ? It's been i while since i played H2H...but iirc thats not possible... So simple. One player watches the replay then gives orders. He cannot cheat. The other player gives orders first then watches the result immediately. If this guy is not satisfied he can just reload the save as many times as he would like. This only works in hot seat mode though, not in PBEM. Edited July 9, 2020 by Bufo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) Have you actually done this ? I'm 90 % sure that this is completally impossible... As i recall...one player gives his orders...sends the file...the other player is not able to watch anything until he does HIS orders and clicks go...he watches the replay and send the filé back to the first player to allow him to wiew the replay... Any reloading is NOT ! possible... Edited July 9, 2020 by RepsolCBR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufo Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, RepsolCBR said: Have you actually done this ? I'm 90 % sure that this is completally impossible... As i recall...one player gives his orders...sends the file...the other player is not able to watch anything until he does HIS orders and clicks go...he watches the replay and send the filé back to the first player to allow him to wiew the replay... Any reloading is NOT ! possible... Now I remember, this only works in hot seat mode and not in PBEM. Edited July 9, 2020 by Bufo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I don't remember the exact flow of things right now...but cheating in the way you describe is not possible...the same rules apply to both players...ones you click go...your turn is DONE ! There is no way to reload and try again for any of the players... If you think about it...it is probably the most obvious cheat possible...and one that BFC had to prevent...othervise no one would be playing H2H games... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufo Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 8 hours ago, RepsolCBR said: See above 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Yeah...i saw it after having sent my previous post. All good 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2020 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) Jesus F. Christ, such a simple question and yet so many conflicting answers. Do any of you actually play these games? I'm going to ass-u-me it's not possible to replay turns before sending them to the opponent (which is why it's called "We-Go"), since I don' think the developers would be that dumb to change the one feature that has kept people playing these games for two decades. Edited July 10, 2020 by Rob2020 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 23 minutes ago, Rob2020 said: Jesus F. Christ, such a simple question and yet so many conflicting answers. Do any of you actually play these games? LOL Pretty much SOP for many on these forums... After a couple of decades you get used to the phenomenon... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerner Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Surely, JC's middle initial was "H"?!?!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerner Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 For Henry, or "Hank", as His 12 best buds would often call Him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combatintman Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 On 7/10/2020 at 3:14 PM, Rob2020 said: Jesus F. Christ, such a simple question and yet so many conflicting answers. Do any of you actually play these games? I'm going to ass-u-me it's not possible to replay turns before sending them to the opponent (which is why it's called "We-Go"), since I don' think the developers would be that dumb to change the one feature that has kept people playing these games for two decades. People were just trying to help ... Assumptions are always dangerous which is possibly why you are confused but surprisingly you now want to make two without censure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 On 7/9/2020 at 2:23 PM, Rob2020 said: As an avid player of the original trio of CM games, I have a very simple question regarding SF2: Is it cheat-proof like the old games? They are cheat proof, yes. For PBEM it is totally stand alone cheat proof. For HotSeat what @Bufo said it technically possible but remember in hot seat play you are their punch your cheating opponent in real life - so to speak. To get what @Bufo suggests to work they would have to save and reload. That leaves saves lying around. And I suppose you could flip out and delete saves. How hard would it really be to become suspicious of that type of behaviour. Personally I would never have someone over to play that I didn't trust way more than just with a game. Out of curiosity how many people play hot seat games on a regular basis. I do for testing but that is all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 41 minutes ago, IanL said: They are cheat proof, yes. For PBEM it is totally stand alone cheat proof. For HotSeat what @Bufo said it technically possible but remember in hot seat play you are their punch your cheating opponent in real life - so to speak. To get what @Bufo suggests to work they would have to save and reload. That leaves saves lying around. And I suppose you could flip out and delete saves. How hard would it really be to become suspicious of that type of behaviour. Personally I would never have someone over to play that I didn't trust way more than just with a game. Out of curiosity how many people play hot seat games on a regular basis. I do for testing but that is all. Thanks, IanL. I only ever played one of the old trio of games via the TCP/IP method once, many years ago, and as I vaguely remember there were no cheat issues. Otherwise I only PBEM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 34 minutes ago, Rob2020 said: Thanks, IanL. I only ever played one of the old trio of games via the TCP/IP method once, many years ago, and as I vaguely remember there were no cheat issues. Otherwise I only PBEM. PBEM is pretty common. When you are ready to go vs a human opponent the FAQ has a link to a post that has several suggestions for finding opponents. My three sources are people that I have met online and IRL and play with regularly, theBlitz.org's scenario of the month (which I help run) and tournaments or campaigns at thefewGoodMen.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markshot Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Thanks Ian! This looks like some great reading. I once had such a list for the CMx1 games which was very comprehensive which I shared. I want to say, I had personally contributed no knowledge, but I did identify the links and collect and organize. But then one day, the forums were ported or reorganized and the thread addresses changed. And it was all lost to humanity. I am sure someday, 3,000 years from now the technology will exist to recreate my CMx1 FAQ. Until then! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted May 14, 2021 Author Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, markshot said: This looks like some great reading. Thanks I'm glad you like it. I have not given this an update in a while - it probably needs one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I'm disappointed to read that cheating in PBEM is not possible. I was hoping it might explain my dismal results . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Well... According to what I have read here, (and I did find it hard to believe) there may be mods that actually alter the odds of your guys being hit. Assuming only one side of a PBEM is using that mod or mod(s) there would be an advantage. IIRC, one such mod is changes the stance of troops giving buddy aid, or how they lie down or somesuch. I had always thought that was mere eye candy. However... I regret I forget the details of the forum string. Hopefully, someone else may jump in with a link. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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