RockinHarry Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 "grousers"?Exactly! Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sttp Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) [T]wo observations about the Tiger - it's in pretty bad shape, which isn't surprising, and it was a lot smaller than I expected.<snip image>I agree. It's always been interesting to me how different pics of the Tiger from different perspectives and with different people nearby can make it look really huge sometimes, yet so much smaller than expected at other times... i.e., the range of size perceptions seems to be wider than one would expect.The attached pic shows what I mean -- it looks like a total BEAST there. And I've always wondered which perception is correct... which I guess in this case really means which of those two guys is closer to average size? I get the definite impression that the guy in the attached pic is smaller than average, and that the guy in your pic is bigger than average. ????Doesn't one of the titles (CMBN, I guess it'd have to be) have a loading screen pic with a bunch of German soldiers sitting on a Tiger I? Or maybe it's a Panzer V or even a Tiger II -- don't exactly recall. But I do recall that the image makes that tank seem insanely huge, and the soldiers sitting on it are most likely near average size. Edited December 17, 2015 by sttp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Tiger I doesn't look all that impressive unless you've also stood next to a Valentine for comparison. Either Tiger I is a monster or a Valentine is toy miniature tank. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 (edited) ... the guy in your pic is bigger than average.I don't know what average is, but that guy is about 5' 11" and rooughly 85kg. (yes, I am shamelessly mixing SI and imperial units ) Edited December 18, 2015 by JonS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poesel Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Europe is heavily littered with old iron.Surprisingly except Germany. Hmm, maybe there are still some Soviet tanks in former East Germany but I doubt it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 And except Italy too, I think. But France and Belgium seem to be almost awash with the things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokko Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 There are lots of soviet tanks around in Eastern Germany. At least in Berlin and around the Seelow heights. I actually almost broke my neck once falling off a T-34/85. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combatintman Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I found this fella in Vimoutiers.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vimoutiers_Tiger_tankEurope is heavily littered with old iron.Edit: two observations about the Tiger - it's in pretty bad shape, which isn't surprising, and it was a lot smaller than I expected.Perhaps I should be less excited than I was about tank riders in a Western Front title .. probably a Beta image though . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 The soldier looks like he has been a very naughty boy and told to sit on the naughty step...Nice to be able to sit on a Tiger, at Bovie you would be walked off site if you were caught doing that as a normal punter... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Nice to be able to sit on a Tiger, at Bovie you would be walked off site if you were caught doing that as a normal punter...Heh, they'd have gone absolutely bananas at this then ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobradelta1000 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Another shot from La Gleize from a trip in 2014. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 From La Roche en Ardenne. A Achilles tank destroyer tributed to 1st Northhamptonshire Yeomanry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 And last. A M3A1 From Stavelot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFF Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Just to add some perspective on how big (or small) some of these tanks are - this is me standing in front of a T-34-85. For reference, I am 5'8": 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Just to add some perspective on how big (or small) some of these tanks are - this is me standing in front of a T-34-85. For reference, I am 5'8":Luke, if you don't mind my asking, where was your photo taken? I see a variety of equipment there but it looks in varying states of preservation. Edited December 22, 2015 by Bud_B 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I'm going to guess that was in Camp Roberts California. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFF Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Luke, if you don't mind my asking, where was your photo taken? I see a variety of equipment there but it looks in varying states of preservation. I'm going to guess that was in Camp Roberts California. It's at the Museum of Military History in Vienna: http://www.hgm.at/en/It's a great place to visit if you're ever in the area. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkhorn1x Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 No way a Tiger II!? And it's outside in the elements...Yes, part of Kampfgruppe Peiper, Schwere SS-Panzer-Abteilung 501. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkhorn1x Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 And here is a related piece of history:COBRA KING: WHERE IS SHE TODAY?World War II’s most famous US tank—the one that broke German siege lines at Bastogne 70 years ago in the Bulge—is restored and ready for display. She’s just waiting for the museum where she’ll rest to be constructed.http://www.americainwwii.com/articles/cobra-king-today/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 It's at the Museum of Military History in Vienna: http://www.hgm.at/en/It's a great place to visit if you're ever in the area.Thank you. I've been to a number of places in Belgium, Luxemburg and France, but never Germany or Austria. Thanks for the link; looks like a nice museum. I like their slogan: "War belongs in a museum." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Yes, part of Kampfgruppe Peiper, Schwere SS-Panzer-Abteilung 501.The museum at La Gleize is really good. I spent some time talking to the curator who was a boy during the Battle in 1944. What an amazing experience. He was so eager to share his experiences he came with me and showed me the distant fields where action took place and where he hid during the fighting. Helps I could speak French. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkEzra Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Those are some great pics... merry Christmas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Although of low quality here´s a comparison of a Sherman and a King Tiger from the front. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkhorn1x Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 The museum at La Gleize is really good. I spent some time talking to the curator who was a boy during the Battle in 1944. What an amazing experience. He was so eager to share his experiences he came with me and showed me the distant fields where action took place and where he hid during the fighting. Helps I could speak French. Lucky! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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