Bud Backer Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Lucky!Very much so! Similar experience when I was in Arnhem. I was looking at a large metal panel with a map of the September battle and an elderly gentleman was so impressed I was interested in something so long past, I got a guided tour of the town, showing me where the action took place, bullet scars still on the walls in places, etc. Such a shame that this living history will not be here to satisfy the curious for coming generations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkhorn1x Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Very much so! Similar experience when I was in Arnhem. I was looking at a large metal panel with a map of the September battle and an elderly gentleman was so impressed I was interested in something so long past, I got a guided tour of the town, showing me where the action took place, bullet scars still on the walls in places, etc. Such a shame that this living history will not be here to satisfy the curious for coming generations. Amazing luck. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combatintman Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 It's at the Museum of Military History in Vienna: http://www.hgm.at/en/It's a great place to visit if you're ever in the area.Seconded ... awesome Museum - I visited it twice in the late 80s, the outside area wasn't well policed so I managed to have a good clamber around stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) Some wonderful stuff, especially the exciting story of the Sherman in Bastogne. Bookmarked that one. Shame about the graffiti on the Panther! Didn't know about any of the other tanks, either, except the La Gleize King Tiger. Here's the story of Tiger II No. 213. You'll be happy to know it was restored (not exactly sure what's being said by that term) some years ago, which is why it looks so nice. That is a repaint you're seeing. That and other goodies are in this link, which shows the Germans left a great deal of armor, softskins and other things of interest in and near La Gleize. Offhand, I see four I'd love to see in CM: Kettenkrad, Schwimmwagen, motorcycle and cars. Also of note are the captured US vehicles the Germans used. Super close range vid of No. 213. I didn't know this, but that tank has considerable battle damage: three substantial hits on the glacis, frag damage (dense coverage) to underside of gun mount and sleeve (assess as likely HE aimed at turret ring), probable frag damage to track guards and a lot of frag hits on the right side (assess as HE but not a contact hit; pattern is much more open than for gun mount and sleeve. None of this penetrated deeply enough to do anything that I could see, but it does give a feel for what abuse armor in battle can sustain. Note, too, there are no cracks in the armor from any of the projectile strikes. For you serious AFV modelers, there is a wealth of visual detail there in the vid from which to work your magic.Regards,John Kettler Edited January 5, 2016 by John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 John Kettler;About the restoration of the KT I have this to add. When I was there at the Museum in 2014 the guide told me that the barrel was a new one made of wood (sic) and the muzzle brake was from a Panther from Skorzeny's 150. SS-Panzer-Brigade found near Malmedy. But then again I read on the link in your post that the barrel is from a Panther as well as the muzzle brake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 There is also a Panther in Celles (Kampfgruppe von Cochenhausen / 2. Panzer-Division) and another in Grandmenil from 2.SS-Panzer-Division Das Reich. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Here is an interesting link to "all" allied tanks i the Bulge area. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 If you are traveling in France I doubt you will find a better collection of tanks than the Musee De Blindes in Saumur.http://www.museedesblindes.fr/Even people that don't like tanks will probably enjoy the visit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Placebo Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) Asked my son if he would rather go to see star wars or tanks this weekend. He chose tanks so we are off to Bovington tank museum - result!! Edited January 15, 2016 by Placebo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Asked my son if he would rather go to see star wars or tanks this weekend. He chose tanks so we are off to Bovington tank museum - result!!Good choice!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 If you are traveling in France I doubt you will find a better collection of tanks than the Musee De Blindes in Saumur.http://www.museedesblindes.fr/Even people that don't like tanks will probably enjoy the visit.When I was on my trip (where I saw La Gleize, etc) I did not have the time to see the Musee De Blindes. And I really wish I had, I've heard so many good things about it. I believe they have the only running Königstiger and occasionally take it for walkies... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLSTK Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 @ Big BossGood stuff. Thanks for sharing.BTW, do you happen to know the story behind the Sherman @ the 7:00 mark? (ie. where's the rest of it?) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 BTW, do you happen to know the story behind the Sherman @ the 7:00 mark? (ie. where's the rest of it?) No I'm sorry but it looked like it received some really hard hits and maybe an barrel explosion if he barrel is from the same tank. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 No I'm sorry but it looked like it received some really hard hits and maybe an barrel explosion if he barrel is from the same tank. It also looks like it was cut-away - perhaps for demonstration purposes? I've seen that in museums, maybe one disposed of this one? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLSTK Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Which means there must be half a Sherman out there somewhere. Next stop eBay! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Which means there must be half a Sherman out there somewhere. Next stop eBay!If each of us brings a half, a couple of rolls of duct tape, and a jerry can of high test, we're golden! Think of how eeeeasy rush hour drives will be from then on! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLSTK Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 If each of us brings a half, a couple of rolls of duct tape, and a jerry can of high test, we're golden! Think of how eeeeasy rush hour drives will be from then on!All Hail, Red Green!Imagine showing up at The Possum Lodge in that thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Think of how eeeeasy rush hour drives will be from then on!A pleasant fantasy that I have entertained many times. But it might not necessarily work out that way. ISTR thirty-some-odd years ago a guy down in California stole an M48 from a National Guard armory and went for a drive on the freeway. After the cops got onto him, he tried to escape by driving across the median but got hung up and couldn't move any farther. He refused to exit the tank and surrender, thinking I suppose that behind all that armor he was immune to anything the cops could bring against him. IIRC, the standoff ended when one cop climbed up on the tank, opened a hatch, and shot him.Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) A pleasant fantasy that I have entertained many times. But it might not necessarily work out that way. ISTR thirty-some-odd years ago a guy down in California stole an M48 from a National Guard armory and went for a drive on the freeway. After the cops got onto him, he tried to escape by driving across the median but got hung up and couldn't move any farther. He refused to exit the tank and surrender, thinking I suppose that behind all that armor he was immune to anything the cops could bring against him. IIRC, the standoff ended when one cop climbed up on the tank, opened a hatch, and shot him.MichaelYes, I remember watching that incident as it happened on TV. He was incompetent as a driver. Lessons learned:1. Don't cross the median unless you are perpendicular to it2. Dog the hatches! Edited January 17, 2016 by Bud_B 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLSTK Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 "Where's the damn Fog of War when you need it?" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Placebo Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 A nice little teaser for CM Final Blitzkrieg: a Jadgtiger with the barrel of a Sturmtiger in the foreground. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzersaurkrautwerfer Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Very much so! Similar experience when I was in Arnhem. I was looking at a large metal panel with a map of the September battle and an elderly gentleman was so impressed I was interested in something so long past, I got a guided tour of the town, showing me where the action took place, bullet scars still on the walls in places, etc. Such a shame that this living history will not be here to satisfy the curious for coming generations. I was at the Imperial War Museum in London some years ago, and while doing my usual tourist thing a gentleman starting talking to me about the bofors gun we were in front of. He was exceedingly Welsh in accent however so I am uncertain if he was telling me about his time as an anti-aircraft gunner, or if he was asking for the bus schedule and for me to turn off my radishes.Still a neat experience though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) Bud_B,Museum des Blindes, Saumur, is immediately below. I would LOVE to be there on the day they bring out the AFVs and run them around. Like to lost my mind when I saw a clip online many years ago.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cSVS5PyJJgThis second Saumur vid shows what I strongly suspect to be a specialized outing for a doc or a computer wargame, since I note a camera on the muzzle brake, a sound assistant holding two wind protected microphones, and various techs and such, to include what I believe to be a sound man in the TC's position. Note especially the emphasis placed on recording engine sounds.The above vid, since I can't find a way to write between vids Two and Three, is a survey of all known Tiger series heavy AFVs and was done in consultation with the top experts in surviving armor.(VO)"We are experiencing technical difficulties. Thank you for your patience."(End VO)Somehow, I managed to copy in the wrong link, resulting in two copies of the surviving Tiger video, and I can't get rid of the second. Nor can I separate the first from the second Saumur video. The usual handles for vids which allow their excision aren't appearing, probably because my computer's having a bad day. The good news? Nothing is on autoplay. That would be bad.Regards,John Kettler Edited January 20, 2016 by John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 While driving the other day, I came across this in a back lot! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Cool, is that the back lot of the war museum? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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