Mord Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 To getting some more news on Bagration? Mord. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altipueri Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Nothing? Buggeration. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slysniper Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Patience, Good things come to those that wait. Didn't your Mom teach you anything! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davek555 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I find patience gets harder and harder as i get older and older. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Childress Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 To getting some more news on Bagration? Release date: the anniversary of Bragation, June 22. But maybe earlier. BF is reportedly seeking a project director/code debugger/press agent to accelerate the process: a sort of omnium gatherum position. HistoryLover appears to have the inside track. They're evidently aiming for a kind of yin yang synergy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BletchleyGeek Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I find patience gets harder and harder as i get older and older. Wouldn't it be nice if we were older Then we wouldn't have to wait so long http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVlVmv0K-pk I wonder whether Brian would like to review those lyrics 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saferight Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 They're evidently aiming for a kind of yin yang synergy. ROFL!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttorneyAtWar Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Release date: the anniversary of Bragation, June 22. But maybe earlier. BF is reportedly seeking a project director/code debugger/press agent to accelerate the process: a sort of omnium gatherum position. HistoryLover appears to have the inside track. They're evidently aiming for a kind of yin yang synergy. June 22nd ? You aren't serious right ? If so I will be sad, Steve wouldn't want to make one of his fans sad would he? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 We'll make an announcement about availability soon. For now I'll say only that it most definitely will be much sooner than June 22nd, 2014. I put the year in because if I didn't the usual suspects would make jokes like "yes, but he didn't say which year!". Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 That's cool! But while we wait, how's about you throw us some screenies? Mord. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadekster Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Shouldn't that be 'soon®'? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatEtr Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 That's cool! But while we wait, how's about you throw us some screenies? Mord. There's some great screenshots behind the scenes. So much awesome-ness coming you guys won't know what to talk about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadekster88 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Knowing this crowd...I sincerely doubt that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 2014 is gonna be a really good year. :eek: <- CM fan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodkin Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 The only thing a little disappointing for me about the news of this series is that it starts at Bagration when the Germans were really starting to suffer through a lack of men and equipment and got steamrolled by the Soviet juggernaut. Kursk would have been a more interesting starting point, that said I'm sure I'll still buy it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Crowley Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 The only thing a little disappointing for me about the news of this series is that it starts at Bagration when the Germans were really starting to suffer through a lack of men and equipment and got steamrolled by the Soviet juggernaut. Kursk would have been a more interesting starting point, that said I'm sure I'll still buy it. Yes, given the total destruction of 17 divisions and the shattering of a further 50, in five weeks, it is difficult to envisage historically based scenarios wherein the Germans will have much scope for victory, other than on the smallest level. However, my knowledge of Bagration is very limited so I'm prepared to be surprised. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Belenko Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 The only thing a little disappointing for me about the news of this series is that it starts at Bagration when the Germans were really starting to suffer through a lack of men and equipment and got steamrolled by the Soviet juggernaut. Kursk would have been a more interesting starting point, that said I'm sure I'll still buy it. Sure it was a slaughter at this time, but I doubt you'll play real life scenarios many scenarios where 12 SU-100 with tank riders attack two ATGs and a weakened infantry company on the open steppe. Those aren't much fun. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and predict some fair and balanced scenarios will be included in the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Operationally, strategically, sure the Jerries were boned by Bagration. Tactically, their formations might have been a bit ragged, but given a CM setup they have just as much chance as their equipment and soft factors give 'em. CM is not an operational or strategic scale game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 why is it set so late in the campaign? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizou Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I guess the reason is that many of the German units can be recycled as they have been created for the western front already. Hence more focus could be put on the terrain, new features in 3.0 and the Russians. I also believe that there might be a bit higher interest in the later stages of the campaign for many as there are big cats and big soviet tanks to play around with. I for one am really looking forward to the eastern front and will buy anything released (most exited for Barbarossa and Stalingrad). With Bagration I’m sure we will see a lot of good scenarios that are balanced and challenging for both sides. CMBB managed to do it during this timeframe so why not CMx2? I see no reason to be concerned about this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeDog Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 why is it set so late in the campaign? Eh? Bagration is generally considered to be the start of the Soviet summer 1944 campaign, and it began on June 22, 1944. Or the 21st, if you count the early infiltrations of the German lines by leading Soviet units as the start of the operation. This campaign started in Vitebsk, and ended at the gates of Warsaw; a distance of over 500km. So the East Front game covers the entire campaign, from start to finish. If you're asking why it's set so late in the war, I don't have any special insight into BFC's thought processes, but I conjecture that one of the major reasons lies in the simple fact that the German TOEs and units for Summer & Fall 1944 were already completed for CMBN, so it's the easiest "crossover" point for moving to the East Front. Starting somewhere else would take substantially more time. You can have Bagration sooner, or something else much later. As for those concerned about the Germans being a pushover at this point in the war, I wouldn't fret your pretty little heads over it too much. It's certainly true that on the operational scale and up the Germans were pretty much completely outfought by the Soviets from mid-1944 on. But on CM's tactical level there were plenty of fights were the Germans gave as good as they got, or better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 The only thing a little disappointing for me about the news of this series is that it starts at Bagration when the Germans were really starting to suffer through a lack of men and equipment and got steamrolled by the Soviet juggernaut. So let me see if I have this straight: You would be cool with Barbarossa when the Soviets were really beginning to suffer through a lack of [capable] men and equipment and got steamrolled by the German juggernaut? Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMolestCats Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Is any information "imminent"? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Eh? Bagration is generally considered to be the start of the Soviet summer 1944 campaign, and it began on June 22, 1944. Or the 21st, if you count the early infiltrations of the German lines by leading Soviet units as the start of the operation. This campaign started in Vitebsk, and ended at the gates of Warsaw; a distance of over 500km. So the East Front game covers the entire campaign, from start to finish. If you're asking why it's set so late in the war, I don't have any special insight into BFC's thought processes, but I conjecture that one of the major reasons lies in the simple fact that the German TOEs and units for Summer & Fall 1944 were already completed for CMBN, so it's the easiest "crossover" point for moving to the East Front. Starting somewhere else would take substantially more time. You can have Bagration sooner, or something else much later. As for those concerned about the Germans being a pushover at this point in the war, I wouldn't fret your pretty little heads over it too much. It's certainly true that on the operational scale and up the Germans were pretty much completely outfought by the Soviets from mid-1944 on. But on CM's tactical level there were plenty of fights were the Germans gave as good as they got, or better. I should of phrased it better.. so late in the Eastern War 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Belenko Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 why is it set so late in the campaign? Big Cats fighting big vodka drinking tanks. Everybody likes a big tank. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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