JonS Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) Hi folks, Creating a scenario in the Combat Mission editor has been described as the-game-within-the-game. I know a number of people who’ve spent more time playing with the editor than they have playing the game. Creating a good scenario - and hopefully getting positive feedback on it from players – can be an incredibly rewarding process, and I think it’s a shame more people don’t give it a go and use the scenario editor they’ve bought and paid for. Over the next couple of weeks I intend to create a scenario ‘in public’. I’ll be walking through the process I use to create a scenario that’s going to be included in the forthcoming CMBN module “Market Garden”. Along the way we’ll be looking at various aspects of the editor, some of them in a fair amount of detail. There’ll also be some riffing on how I going about designing a scenario, what I think is important, and my philosophy of scenario design. Where possible, I’ll answer any questions you might have about the editor, and you’re encouraged to add your own editor tips, tricks, and suggestions. It is my hope that this thread will answer a lot of questions about using the editor, and encourage more players to dip their toes in the pool and start making more scenarios! At various points I’ll refer to ‘story telling.’ I think that most things we do in life revolve around telling stories. To me, creating a scenario involves telling a myriad of independent and inter-related stories, to set context and explain why things are the way they are. Some of the stories are told to players explicitly with written words, but not always. I’ll expand on this theme as we go along. In my estimation, and regardless of the specific content of a scenario, I think that a good scenario should present the player with a number of meaningful problems that have to be resolved. Each problem should be solvable in a number of different ways, but should also require the player to actually think through the problem, come up with a plan to overcome it, and then execute that plan with a modicum of competence. To put that in concrete terms; setting a company of Tigers against a platoon of Stuarts on a large flat, open, map doesn’t really present either side with a problem to be solved – the German player simply doesn’t have one, and while the Allied player certainly does have a problem, there’s no plausible solution. I’m writing this series of posts while I’m designing the scenario, so it’s likely that some early decisions will be changed later on. In my experience, designing a scenario seems to mostly consist of solving a seemingly endless series of design problems, from finding useful sources to wrangling the editor to do what you want. I try to keep in mind that I need to stay flexible. What seems like a good idea initially sometimes ends up being unworkable, or just not that much fun. Either way, I’ll change the design. Feedback comes in to the mix here too – what I like might not appeal to others, or my storytelling isn’t good enough, and my style of scenario design has altered as time has passed. Scenario design is an intensely personal and creative activity, and these posts are not in any way intended to be prescriptive, pr a set of rules that must be adhered to. Instead it's an outline of how I go about this, and some guidelines that you might choose to follow. To misquote German doctrine; scenario design is an art, a free and creative activity, and so each designer needs to find their own way of skinning these cats. What follows might also seem like it's a rigid linear sequence, but I really don’t work like that. Instead I flit about depending on what I’m thinking about and how I’m feeling. While working on a CMBN scenario, for example, I spent a couple of weeks working on nothing except the map. One night I got fed up with it all, and instead played around with the forces for a while before eventually going back to finish the map. If you are new to scenario design you should definitely read George McEwan’s Scenario Design Manual. George clearly explains how to use the various parts of the editor to create a scenario. I don’t intend to go over ground that he’s already trodden so well. Instead I’ll be taking a more philosophical approach to scenario design, and hopefully explaining how I get the different mechanical elements of the scenario editor working together to tell a story. Anyway, enough of that. I hope you enjoy the thread. Jon Quote 1.1: Starting a fresh scenario in the CMBN Scenario Editor. I love that new-scenario smell! There have been a steady stream of updates and improvements to the editor as Combat Mission has matured, and I expect more in future games and upgrades. This series of posts uses the editor in CMBN: Market Garden v2.10, which means you might be getting a sneak peak at some of the new things in that module! Because of that, and depending on the game or module being used, some elements discussed here may not be present or may function in a different way in other games/modules. Table of Contents 1 Outline Scenario Concept 2 Research 3 Refined Scenario Concept 4 The Map 1 – Preparing Overlays 5 The Map 2 – Elevations and Roads 6 The Map 3 – Buildings, Walls, and Trees 7 The Map 4 - Detailing 8 The Map 5 – Finishing Up 9 British Forces 10 German Forces 11 Objectives 12 Walls and Bridges 13 Scenario Settings 14 Designer's Notes 15 Briefings and Imagery 16 Programming the AI 17 Testing 18 Polishing 19 Scenario design is easy. It just takes time. 20 Forms and checklists Edited June 21, 2016 by JonS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Thanks for taking the time to go through this, Jon. I hope it does inspire! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 This ... will be really helpful. Thanks for doing this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword56 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Whohoo! This will really be an entertaining and educational journey. Thanks for sharing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 JonS, This sounds like it's going to be a most interesting read. I stuck my head in the Scenario Editor just long enough to realize I was way out of my depth. Since I've noticed your name on some of the CMBN scenarios, I look forward to seeing how you go through the design process, using a specialized interface all but utterly unknown to me. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Thanks for doing this Jon. I will be watching with great attentiveness. OK to roll the questions? So, you seem to already have a scenario title. Does that mean you already have this fuzzy idea forming out of the fog? Or a locked down specific inspiration from a short section in a book on the battle or is this fictional within the non-fictional MG timeframe like GL Kiwi Soldiers is fictional but within a factual overall timeframe? Do you get to drink any scotch yet at this point? Just taking notes.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted June 13, 2013 Author Share Posted June 13, 2013 So, you seem to already have a scenario title. Does that mean you already have this fuzzy idea forming out of the fog? Or a locked down specific inspiration from a short section in a book on the battle or is this fictional within the non-fictional MG timeframe like GL Kiwi Soldiers is fictional but within a factual overall timeframe? Yes Do you get to drink any scotch yet at this point? Just taking notes.... Actually, I've just finished a bottle of Caol Ila. I need to go get some more ... or maybe something more topical. Calvados wouldn't fit the bill, what is the Dutch national tipple drink? (After a certain memorable but unpleasant experience involving a train I can't stand Gin, so don't bother with that :mad: ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Yes Actually, I've just finished a bottle of Caol Ila. I need to go get some more ... or maybe something more topical. Calvados wouldn't fit the bill, what is the Dutch national tipple drink? (After a certain memorable but unpleasant experience involving a train I can't stand Gin, so don't bother with that :mad: ) Their National Liquor (and How They Drink It) London dry gin, the style of gin we all grew up with, is basically flavored vodka: neutral spirits bubbled through juniper berries and a few other botanicals, cut to proof, and bottled. Genever, the spirit of the Netherlands (plus parts of Belgium, Germany, and France), is, on the other hand, more of a flavored whiskey, albeit a light one: a blend of neutral spirits, juniper and botanical infusions, and what's known as "malt wine," which is a rich, funky distillate of malted barley, rye, and other grains. Up until around 1890, the Dutch style was what we drank here, too. Nowadays it's pretty hard to find, although it's starting to show signs of life. The newish Bols Genever, if you can find it, is a bit pricey but definitely old-school. Even more so is the San Francisco-made Genevieve, an American homage to genever that's so intense as to be a little frightening. Equally as important is how you drink genever. The best way is by performing a kop-stoot. Characteristically, this "head butt" (see illustration above for why it's called that) couldn't be simpler: a small tulip glass of chilled genever with a short beer back. A beer and a shot. Can't get more American than that. Or more Dutch. How to Perform the Kopstoot 1. Put tulip glass on the table. 2. Pour a small glass (6 to 8 oz) of beer and put it near the tulip glass. 3. Pour chilled genever carefully into tulip glass until it's so full that the top bulges. 4. Bending from the waist, take the first, generous sip of the genever. 5. Straighten up and have a sip of the beer. Skip it and go straight to the Cannabis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Gin is good stuff, give it another try. Hey, this could forge an entire sideshow effort. How about a new cocktail or drink contest? Something called the "John Frost" or the "Pegasus" or whatever. Or a drink with 3 different boozes called the ______. Oh, wow!. I am terrible. See? Anything to get away from actually finishing a scenario. Sheesh.... Alright, back to the lesson. How do you usually decide how big the map should be? I suffer from trying too large and then get winded and quit. I admit it. Many in the graveyard of unfinished scenarios are my brainchildren... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 "This series of posts uses the editor in CMBN: Market Garden v2.10, which means you might be getting a sneak peak at some of the new things in that module!" Please press forward JonS. Should be interesting. Thanks, *definitely read George McEwan’s Scenario Design Manual. George clearly explains how to use the various parts of the editor to create a scenario.* I have read Sir George's Scenario Design Manual. He does an excellent explanation and designs. I guess practice makes perfect? I am with sbruke "Skip it and go straight to the Cannabis.":D 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splinty Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I am with sbruke "Skip it and go straight to the Cannabis.":D 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webwing Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 This series will be really fantastic. Enjoy the ride. Just so you guys know, Jon is also doing one of the campaigns for the Market Garden module. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Which explains your Forum name:D Buzz = Drone as well This series will be really fantastic. Enjoy the ride. Just so you guys know, Jon is also doing one of the campaigns for the Market Garden module. I suspected such. Present & Ready for class. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holman Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Great idea for a thread! I've never used the editor for anything but personal testing purposes, so I'm looking forward to seeing how it's really done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridethe415 Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I think that a good scenario should present the player with a number of meaningful problems that have to be resolved. Each problem should be solvable in a number of different ways, but should also require the player to actually think through the problem, come up with a plan to overcome it, and then execute that plan with a modicum of competence. Precisely. This is why I have been gaming for so long. Never used the editor but hoping to learn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfhand Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Bookmarked! I'm really looking forward to this, thanks Jon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 This is a great idea for editor numbskulls like myself..cheers Jons 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasMorbo Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Yeah! This is exactly what I have been waiting for! Have many ideas for scenarios but never had the patience to get accustomed to the editor. Enlisted. By the way, I recommend Heineken and Weed, too. Cheers Olf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusto Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 That is a great idea, JonS. I am definately going to follow this thread. EDIT: I dont like the side effects of alcohol but i would never say no to a good joint, though . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaeger Jonzo Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Great stuff Jon, hopefully you can inspire a few more of us to create scenarios. I have long wanted to create them based on many great encounters i continually read about in ww2 books/unit histories but real life lack of spare time never allows. I am really surprised at the lack of scenarios written for CMBN/FI and assumed it must be level of complexity, compared to the hundreds made for Cmx1 sims? one other small complaint, can we keep the posts on topic rather than waffling about gin etc? These threads get big enough to wade through as it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 one other small complaint, can we keep the posts on topic rather than waffling about gin etc? These threads get big enough to wade through as it is. Here here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Here here Where where? :confused: Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Where where? :confused: Michael confused...it must be your age Michael? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 confused...it must be your age Michael? Perhaps. More likely it derives from your misspelling. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanL Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Hi folks, Creating a scenario in the Combat Mission editor has been described as the-game-within-the-game. An excellent idea. I am looking forward to reading about setting up and testing AI plans. I am currently struggling with that at the moment. Well actually I have put it aside for a while but will get back to it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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