Badger73 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Military History. freebie on Amazon Kindle 1-March-2016The Battle of Hurtgen Forest by Charles WhitingIt was the longest battle ever fought by the US Army, Thirty thousand American GIs were killed or wounded. A battle that has been ignored for more than fifty years - and one that should never have been fought. From September 1944 to February 1945, eight US infantry and two US armoured divisions were thrown into the `green hell of Hurtgen': fifty square miles of thick, rugged, hilly woods on the Belgian-German border, full of German soldiers in a deadly network of concrete bunkers. The butcher's bill was high; casualty rates ran to 50 per cent and more for most rifle companies. The High Command, from the relative comfort and security of their headquarters, miles away from the forest, refused to admit there had been a mistake. Careers, and the pride of the army, were at stake.Charles Whiting is the author of numerous history books on the Second World War. Under the pen name of Leo Kessler he also wrote a series of bestselling military thrillers, including `Guns at Cassino' and `Valley of the Assassins'.US http://www.amazon.com/Battle-Hurtgen-Forest-Charles-Whiting-ebook/dp/B013RDBLJ0/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1456842531&sr=1-1&keywords=The+Battle+of+Hurtgen+Forest+by+Charles+WhitingAlso available in UK. Get one before the deal is gone! Enoy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wadepm Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Got it and started flipping. Are there no maps at all? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rocketman Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Got it and started flipping. Are there no maps at all?Got it as well, but haven't started to read. No maps? Dislike military history books with no or few maps. Makes it so much harder to follow the proceedings and understand the tacitcal and stretegic situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russkly Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Good call. Ta. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockinHarry Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Definitely not my prefered read on the matter, yet usable for starters. More in depth info can always be obtained for free at these sites:http://www.history.army.mil/books/wwii/Siegfried/Siegfried Line/siegfried-fm.htmhttp://home.scarlet.be/~sh446368/sitemap.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niall78 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) Have this one on the bookcase already. I've quite a few by Charles Whiting. They are all fairly decent - none hitting the heights of classic status. What his output has done is focus on many battles and campaigns on the Western Front that are semi-forgotten by many historians or military writers.There is quite a bit of criticism of Whiting historical output that a would be reader should be aware of. He has a great tendency to knock the American high command and their decisions. So much that it crosses the line of fair comment, isn't backed by historical evidence and comes across as a form of barely concealed bitterness. He doesn't behave like this when talking about American lower ranks for whom he seems to have the height of respect.These is general criticism of him by historians who bemoan the lack of footnotes and sources in his books. Very fair criticism in my opinion as Whiting has on occasion been found to be letting his fictional writing intersect with his historical writings. It also makes proving or backing up quotes, eye-witness accounts, tactical details and finding further information from different sources very difficult for a reader.The lack of maps in his work is almost criminal. You need to have your own maps of the areas in question to have any hope of following what he is writing about in nearly all his books. Edited March 4, 2016 by niall78 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stele Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Great author. I love his book Kasserine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger73 Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 Definitely not my preferred read on the matter, yet usable for starters. More in depth info can always be obtained for free at these sites:http://www.history.army.mil/books/wwii/Siegfried/Siegfried Line/siegfried-fm.htmhttp://home.scarlet.be/~sh446368/sitemap.html Nice! Thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaeger Jonzo Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Got it in the Uk, many thanks for the heads up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hank24 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Got it and started flipping. Are there no maps at all?Yes, no maps. I use www.viamichelin.com in parallel on my Kindle, it shows all the names of the small villages like Germeter. You will never see these at Google Maps. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadepm Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Thanks Hank, that is helpful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUCASWILLEN05 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 I do not like Whiting as an author. His research seems rather basic to me and there are better histories of the HuertgenForest battles.I suggest A Dark and Bloody Ground Edward G Miller Tjhe Bloody Forest Gerald Astor From Normandy to the Ruhr Heinz Gunther Guderian 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockinHarry Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Charles B. MacDonalds - Battle of the Hurtgen Forest is some good read as well, but personally I like three books best that aren´t (?) available to the english reader: Trees/Hohenstein - Hölle im Hürtgenwald (Hell in hurtgen forest) Falkenstein - Hürtgenwald 44/45 Guderian - Das letzte Kriegsjahr im Westen - Die Geschichte der 116. Panzer Division - Windhund Division (that last war year in the west - the history of the 116. Panzer Division/ Greyhound Division) and off course still the best online resource (Scorpio´s website): http://home.scarlet.be/~sh446368/sitemap.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUCASWILLEN05 Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 1 hour ago, RockinHarry said: Charles B. MacDonalds - Battle of the Hurtgen Forest is some good read as well, but personally I like three books best that aren´t (?) available to the english reader: Trees/Hohenstein - Hölle im Hürtgenwald (Hell in hurtgen forest) Falkenstein - Hürtgenwald 44/45 Guderian - Das letzte Kriegsjahr im Westen - Die Geschichte der 116. Panzer Division - Windhund Division (that last war year in the west - the history of the 116. Panzer Division/ Greyhound Division) and off course still the best online resource (Scorpio´s website): http://home.scarlet.be/~sh446368/sitemap.html I am pretty sure that the Heinz Gunther Guderian book you mentioned ia actually available in English as From Normandy to the Rhine. This book is indeed the divisional history of `116h Panzer Division, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockinHarry Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 41 minutes ago, LUCASWILLEN05 said: I am pretty sure that the Heinz Gunther Guderian book you mentioned ia actually available in English as From Normandy to the Rhine. This book is indeed the divisional history of `116h Panzer Division, Ah ok, didn´t know. So this is a recommendation anyway, as it not just gives very good info on the divisions history, but also some good details for its employment during the hurtgen forest campaign, particularly its contribution to give the US 28th divison a bloody nose during the Schmidt attack in november 1944. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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