Myles Keogh Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 21 hours ago, LeBlaque said: @Battlefront.com, et. al. Thanks for the test and great feedback. The out-of-memory error seems like a "driver-killer" as I experienced this as well on a large CMRT e-mail battle with drivers after 22.5.2. Despite the flashbang being resolved in newest, if the game crashes that is a fatal flaw. Do we all need to do ANOTHER separate trouble ticket for BF and AMD?? Unfortunately, the out-of-memory issue has been an existing conflict between some AMD drivers and CMx2 for several years now. (In fact, it was the first problem I ever had with them.) What makes it frustrating is that some driver updates have caused the issue and other have not. It seems utterly random. Trying to avoid it, I haven't updated my AMD drivers in almost a year. The 22.5.1 work fine with CMx2 and, fortunately, I don't play games that require recent drivers. So, it's not that that big of an inconvenience for me, but I know it may be frustrating for other gamers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 21 hours ago, LeBlaque said: @Battlefront.com, et. al. Thanks for the test and great feedback. The out-of-memory error seems like a "driver-killer" as I experienced this as well on a large CMRT e-mail battle with drivers after 22.5.2. Despite the flashbang being resolved in newest, if the game crashes that is a fatal flaw. Do we all need to do ANOTHER separate trouble ticket for BF and AMD?? You do. But you need to make it reproducible with a CMx2 demo so that AMD folks can run it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFCElvis Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 On 4/20/2023 at 11:35 PM, LeBlaque said: Anybody brave enough to see if the most recent drivers 23.4.2 fixed the issue? (e.g. @Jiggathebauce @Bufo I've gotten a bunch of confirmations that 23.4.2 has fixed things for the players. Give it a try. You can always roll it back and let me know if it doesn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggathebauce Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 On 4/20/2023 at 9:30 PM, Codreanu said: Just tested it and it's fixed! Game still loads super fast too. There still seem to be some graphical issues though, U.S. rifle squads in CMBN have giant antennae sticking out of them and some vehicles have similar problems and the bocage can look weird at certain angles too, tested it with and without mods. I'm also seeing this issue, certain angles and closeness to units in particular it's visible. Ideas? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggathebauce Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 Sorry to double post, but my flashes are gone as well, and I can put up with the visual issues, game runs smooth! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBlaque Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 @BFCElvis On 4/22/2023 at 9:43 AM, Myles Keogh said: Unfortunately, the out-of-memory issue has been an existing conflict between some AMD drivers and CMx2 for several years now. (In fact, it was the first problem I ever had with them.) What makes it frustrating is that some driver updates have caused the issue and other have not. It seems utterly random. Trying to avoid it, I haven't updated my AMD drivers in almost a year. The 22.5.1 work fine with CMx2 and, fortunately, I don't play games that require recent drivers. So, it's not that that big of an inconvenience for me, but I know it may be frustrating for other gamers. @Myles Keogh @Battlefront.com Unlike Myles, I do need updated drivers (ideally) for other games. 23.4.2 is still bugged, and apparently, this is a long-standing issue per above post. This is infuriating in a way, as I am playing an email game in CMRT flawlessly (no flashbang, etc.) but a game in CMBS got the following error, then afterwards crashes to desktop when I rotate the view (my card is an RX 6600XT w. 8MB). I have attached relevant pics/dropbox links for BF (and others) to check on their AMD systems. All I can say is, WTF.... https://www.dropbox.com/s/l25g01e0okcrrb5/Rollin' On The River 105.ema?dl=0 (CMBS PW: od) https://www.dropbox.com/s/0t049ub1b2xbdur/Retaking of Koshtovnist 153.ema?dl=0 (CMRT PW: od) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxster Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 I'm so pleased to be able to play the games without the flashes... A feature I was not aware of before is cloud shadows on the landscape... is that new to AMD card users? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nox_plague Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 With Driver 23.4.2, I'm also no longer experiencing the white flashes, and game loading is so much faster. I've tested this in Black Sea, Red Thunder, and Afghanistan. Folks thanks for all adding to the forum on AMD - look how we all made some noise and got it fixed, finally! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesquite55 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 WEll, the flashes are fixed but large scenarios cause out of memory errors. Needs to be fixed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 I wonder why NVidia users don't get out-of-VRAM errors. It would be good to establish how much VRAM is being taken in the working case. I can't help, no AMD card under Windows here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBlaque Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) If I could appeal to this AMD community for some help-- while we collectively helped fix the "flashbang" the out-of-memory issue is also a game-killer. I am working with John at BF on a trouble-ticket but some extra "data" would help solve the problem. What would be helpful is try loading the LARGEST CM (Black Sea is a culprit, others) and see if the scenario crashes the game. My buddy and I have the exact same AMD card with 8GB or VRAM, but different levels of RAM (He 32 me 16). My mid-size email game crashes CMBS with 23-series drivers-- though not tiny scenarios-- while his system does not crash. BUT, the biggest CMBS files crash both our systems. Any feedback from the community would help resolve this continuing driver issue.... Let's get this problem knocked out, too! @Jiggathebauce @nox_plague @lerxster @BFCElvis @Bufo @Codreanu et. al. Edited May 5, 2023 by LeBlaque 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggathebauce Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 I'll be honest I've never dipped my toes into multiplayer, wouldn't have thought troubleshooting would be my in lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBlaque Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 (edited) @Jiggathebauce no multiplayer needed. Just try single player with the largest CMBS file and see if it crashes. And if you want to try a multi-player game, just give me a email-- leblaque@hotmail.com Edited May 6, 2023 by LeBlaque 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufo Posted May 7, 2023 Author Share Posted May 7, 2023 On 5/5/2023 at 6:39 PM, LeBlaque said: If I could appeal to this AMD community for some help-- while we collectively helped fix the "flashbang" the out-of-memory issue is also a game-killer. I am working with John at BF on a trouble-ticket but some extra "data" would help solve the problem. What would be helpful is try loading the LARGEST CM (Black Sea is a culprit, others) and see if the scenario crashes the game. My buddy and I have the exact same AMD card with 8GB or VRAM, but different levels of RAM (He 32 me 16). My mid-size email game crashes CMBS with 23-series drivers-- though not tiny scenarios-- while his system does not crash. BUT, the biggest CMBS files crash both our systems. Any feedback from the community would help resolve this continuing driver issue.... Let's get this problem knocked out, too! @Jiggathebauce @nox_plague @lerxster @BFCElvis @Bufo @Codreanu et. al. With CMBS I could load and run a minute with both the dueling shaskas and valley of death scenarios. They are one of the largest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufo Posted May 7, 2023 Author Share Posted May 7, 2023 With CMCW the Rumpus scenario also runs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggathebauce Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) Ok folks, i played some cold war I just tried one of the Soviet training scenario 2's, the one of the MRB in meeting engagement. 5 turns in I ran out of memory and hadn't saved Edited May 14, 2023 by Jiggathebauce Forgot game title in comment 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBlaque Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, Jiggathebauce said: Ok folks, I just tried one of the Soviet training scenario 2's, the one of the MRB in meeting engagement. 5 turns in I ran out of memory and hadn't saved I have an open trouble ticket that has been confirmed by BF and one of their beta testers RE: Out-of-Memory bug on the newest 23 drivers. It appears it happens on the largest battle maps as dependent on folks' AMD systems, smaller maps can be run w/o issue (including my own). Having said this, the beta tester's crash with 12 GB VRAM is certainly cause for concern. AND, CMBS Steam version is more problematic compared to BF direct purchase (unfortunately). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggathebauce Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Alright so it's not an ideal solution, but i found that if I plotted all my orders on turn 1, hit save, the following day I was able to play 10 turns of action without crashing, and 2 more saves. Bite and hold, gentlemen. 2/3 of my FSE's rifle company vehicles are toast, 40% of the infantry but i still got my tank platoon in overwatch and...not seeing the enemies tow's. Lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesquite55 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 A new driver today. 23.5.1. I haven't tried it though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathangun Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 (edited) Just updated to 23.5.1 today and my flashbang issue is gone, in CMRT at least. Big maps still don't load in CMRT. Edited May 29, 2023 by nathangun 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufo Posted May 30, 2023 Author Share Posted May 30, 2023 21 hours ago, nathangun said: Just updated to 23.5.1 today and my flashbang issue is gone, in CMRT at least. Big maps still don't load in CMRT. I don't have a problem with this neither on my desktop PC, nor with my laptop. And my laptop has a weak integrated AMD GPU (CPU is the 4650U), yet even the biggest maps run fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Keep your fingers crossed. Microsoft’s latest Windows 11 mishap causes havoc with AMD graphics cards (msn.com) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufo Posted May 31, 2023 Author Share Posted May 31, 2023 On 5/29/2023 at 4:14 PM, nathangun said: Just updated to 23.5.1 today and my flashbang issue is gone, in CMRT at least. Big maps still don't load in CMRT. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufo Posted May 31, 2023 Author Share Posted May 31, 2023 On 5/29/2023 at 4:14 PM, nathangun said: Just updated to 23.5.1 today and my flashbang issue is gone, in CMRT at least. Big maps still don't load in CMRT. I take back my previous post. There is a problem also for me (both on PC and laptop), but not with all the maps. I tried one of the biggest which works for me, but other maps don't. Didn't find the culprit so far. And yes, the error message is out of memory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBlaque Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 I posted a trouble ticket at AMD on this crashing out-of-memory issue. Apparently BF has done so as well as a result of my internal trouble ticket. Yesterday I got an email from AMD saying "they are tracking it." Should be another nine months before a fix.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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