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4 minutes ago, Anders_1970 said:

I'm sure most people get that I'm not talking about US politics.

no actually not.  As divisive as things are here any mention of either side here is heading into US politics.  How about "Russian soldiers are about as disciplined as a herd of cats".  or sumfink

 

^edit That is probably unfair to cats but you get the idea.

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9 minutes ago, MSBoxer said:

CM Black Sea selection screen
Player selects Russia
 - You selected Russia - Are you sure??? (Y/N)
 - You selected Russia again - Are you really sure???????! (Y/N)
 - You selected Russia - You Lose
 - Would you like to play again?  (Y/N)

The Russian setup zone is the exit zone.

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2 minutes ago, rocketman said:

The Russian setup zone is the exit zone.

all your troops start dismounted and have to exit on foot

 

Russian troops fleeing after their lines were shattered left behind so much ammo and weaponry Ukraine struggled to handle it all (msn.com)

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Ukraine's defense ministry posted a tweet on Sunday with a video that purported to show a litany of abandoned Russian military vehicles. In the video, the caption read: "Everyone gets a tank. F..ck there is enough tanks for everyone. What a bonus."  


 

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3 minutes ago, sburke said:

no actually not.  As divisive as things are here any mention of either side here is heading into US politics.  How about "Russian soldiers are about as disciplined as a herd of cats".  or sumfink

 

^edit That is probably unfair to cats but you get the idea.

If people are that sensitive they probably shouldn't use the internet...

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8 hours ago, Offshoot said:

Kherson Cat thinks they might be separate incidents (yesterday was possibly a Su-24)

 

Russian TG Fighterbomber wrote Su-34 was hit by own AD. Crew ejected and survived.

Su-25 - control lines failed during the turn after take-off, pilot dead.

Also our troops, advancing in Izium area have found crash sites of Su-30SM, Su-34 being shot down much earlier and Su-25SM, being shot down four days ago

About our air losses - on 7th Sep Su-25 was shot down, the pilot, Vadym Blahovisnyi, got lost

 

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1 hour ago, sross112 said:

So right now the only rail line feeding both Kherson and Crimea is the Kerch bridge? Would that be in ATACMS range? If so the US should give the UA at least 2 a week from here on out.

Yes, that makes Kerch bridge a very important target.  RU may still be able to use the ports to unload supplies and troops. But kill a significant portion of supplies flow from Kerch bridge will cause a huge problem. And all those port terminals are also in ATACMS' range. 

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Apologies if this has already been posted but I'd like to mention that over the last several weeks I felt bombarded by news about how Ukraine was planning a counteroffensive in the south.  Yes, get ready Russia, Ukraine is coming and they're going after Kherson, hoping to slug it out and recapture some ground near the Black Sea.  They're focused and you'd better believe they're putting everything they have into it.  This news was repeated for a week or more, like a drumbeat.

Then BAM.  Blitzkrieg up north.

To Ukraine: well played, sir.

They didn't just fool the Russians.  They fooled the (largely) credulous media, which then helped fool the Russians even further.

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Putin ‘fires army commander after just 16 days’ amid major losses in Kharkiv (msn.com)

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Russia has fired an army commander just 16 days after he was appointed to his role, Ukraine has claimed, after Kyiv’s forces made major gains.

Lieutenant General Roman Berdnikov was appointed to the position of commander of Russian army’s Western Military District on 26 August, replacing Lieutenant General Sychecvy.

But he lasted little more than two weeks before being removed, according to the Defence Intelligence of the Ministry of Defence. Ukrainian credited the change in leadership to the “crushing defeats” by its troops in the Kharkiv region.

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defence said the Russian troop group will now be headed by Lieutenant General Oleksander Lapin.

Russia is yet to confirm any of these changes.

 

 

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34 minutes ago, sburke said:

Remember when people got spooked when Russia put that one general in charge?  I doubt it matters, they are all products of the same corrupt system.  If Russia has some sort of military genius commander they probably filtered him out a long time ago.

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56 minutes ago, Battlefront said:

Apologies if this has already been posted but I'd like to mention that over the last several weeks I felt bombarded by news about how Ukraine was planning a counteroffensive in the south.  Yes, get ready Russia, Ukraine is coming and they're going after Kherson, hoping to slug it out and recapture some ground near the Black Sea.  They're focused and you'd better believe they're putting everything they have into it.  This news was repeated for a week or more, like a drumbeat.

Then BAM.  Blitzkrieg up north.

To Ukraine: well played, sir.

They didn't just fool the Russians.  They fooled the (largely) credulous media, which then helped fool the Russians even further.

Heya Charles! Long time no see. How is the brain in a jar doing?

I particularly enjoy the Kherson part as it was so obviously a trap and the Russians fell for it anyway. Only to find it was both trap AND decoy. The whole thing is just a layer cake of cunning plans.

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