Haiduk Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 (edited) Civil voluntreer Roman Donik about UKR troops control in Kharkiv: A charecteristic feature of frontline city. It's doedn't matter who is in what structure [means Army, National Guard, SBU, TD, volunteers etc]. Everyone doesn't give a damn who is in what uniform/civil clothes that it's already embarassing. Everithing is coordinated by HQ to which no one has anything to do, no one knows who is there, but headquarter of defense works like a clockwork. The fu..k knows how it turns out. It all depends on the situation and from desired caliber and weapon for task. Then you start to ask who from what structure. Well, of course Armed Forces are rule - because of except 152 mm and MLRS they have an artillery of senior chief [means artillery/MLRS of Operative Command level] and Bayraktars. And the orcs still can't uncover our OOBs. Dig deeper, fools. At the depth of 2m everythins is for you Edited March 27, 2022 by Haiduk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sross112 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said: When it all started something felt really "off" about the warnings. A friend, who is still in Kiev now, and I started talking about it in detail. We initially thought that the US intel was buying into deliberate misinformation from the Kremlin since it is normal for the Kremlin to try and mislead foreign intel from what it really is doing. Part of the reason for us being skeptical was because we saw absolutely no chance of Russia gaining from a full scale war. Upping the ante in Donbas? Yes, but not a full invasion. As the US intel releases got more specific and seemed more inline with verifiable facts it seemed more and more likely that some form of military adventure was in the works. Again, we figured it was just a more aggressive move in Donbas. And again, because a full invasion was likely suicide for Putin's regime. Then a few days before the war a couple of subtle things happened and both of us thought "oh crap, Putin might really be planning a full scale war". We double checked ourselves and felt that our assessment of Russia's chances of success were still zero, and so we hoped that Putin would decide at the last minute to go with something less than full invasion. And then a few days later... nope Steve Another part that I think has been a big blow to Putin's plan by the intel community is the outing of the false flag operations. It pretty much scrubbed out a lot of the propaganda they would have hung their hats on and I think it was aimed primarily at lessening resolve and support from the NATO/EU countries. Exposure might have been a big reason Belarus wasn't drug in early as well. I know there are a lot of other factors involved but I do think that pointing out the false flag ops before they kicked off was way better than trying to disprove them afterwards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbindc Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, Battlefront.com said: Then a few days before the war a couple of subtle things happened and both of us thought "oh crap, Putin might really be planning a full scale war". We double checked ourselves and felt that our assessment of Russia's chances of success were still zero, and so we hoped that Putin would decide at the last minute to go with something less than full invasion. And then a few days later... nope Steve Couldn't tell you how many conversations I had just before it all kicked off with DC folks who said "But it makes *zero* rational sense for Putin to do it!". My particular bias was to look at the capabilities he was stacking up that were way beyond what was needed for pressure but would be required for compellence. This time, unfortunately my bias turned out to be right. Your "reasonable" analysis had a lot of company. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Looks like they are scraping together everything they have... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, DesertFox said: Looks like they are scraping together everything they have... Looks like they need additional fuel tankers for some reason. Can't think why they might've suffered losses in that department... At least the tyres on those vehicles will get a good test before they have to attempt Ukrainian mud... That, or some new tyres fitted somewhere on the road between Azerbaijan and Ukraine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVulture Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Interesting that for the first time the city of Kherson has sounded air raid sirens (around 2 hours ago). Which rather suggests that at least some parts of the city (or outskirts) have Ukrainian forces and a bit of a lack of Russians. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, womble said: Looks like they need additional fuel tankers for some reason. Can't think why they might've suffered losses in that department... At least the tyres on those vehicles will get a good test before they have to attempt Ukrainian mud... That, or some new tyres fitted somewhere on the road between Azerbaijan and Ukraine. hope the plan wasn't to move them by ship. I hear the dock there is still occupied. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Vet 0369 said: Has anyone been factoring in the feelings and attitudes of the indigenous Formosians? Perhaps the anger and resentment from Chang Kai Shek “appropriating their island has diminished since they were invaded and displaced by the Nationalists, but they definitely weren’t happy about it at the time. I have also read that the Formosans are still being treated as second class citizens. I might be hand probably are) wrong about that, but it is something to consider. The thing about Taiwan that doesn't get enough press is that they actually have a very strong and reciprocated affinity for the Japanese. It is literally the only place in Asia they treated decently from 1895 to 1945. There was a plan to incorporate them fully into the home Islands. This gives the Japanese more motivation to help defend Taiwan than is commonly assumed. Then the Nationalist Chinese treated them very badly for a few years until they had to reverse course move in rather hurriedly. There is still a fairly distinct division between Nationalists refugees from the mainland, and native Taiwanese. But real democracy has rebalanced a lot of things because there are a LOT of native Taiwanese. The biggest factor in Taiwanese politics in the last ten years is that the Chinese wasted decades of trying to appear benevolent when they absolutely crushed freedoms in Hong Kong. Now nobody on Taiwan except a few bought a paid for shills believes anything China says. They know letting the Chinese in means Gulag in the tropics. What they haven't done is reorganize their military to reflect the last twenty years of lessons learned. We will know they are serious when they start hiring Ukrainian advisors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panserjeger Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 2 hours ago, DesertFox said: Short range SKIF hit https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1508078103016488963?s=20 I loved the quote in the comments, allegedly by Vasilly Kim: "Countries with a chicken in their flag shouldn't invade countries with a fork on theirs" - Vasily Kim Mayor of Mikolayv 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Captain Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Artkin said: Oh yes, that's what I'm talkin about They're in Cold War!! I'm positive the module was all ready to go and be released in March but we know what screwed that all up. Whaddya say @Battlefront.com, just go on and release it. We all totally realize now that our beloved CMBS is just a fantasy game now! Edited March 27, 2022 by Phantom Captain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Trostianets surely saw a lot of action. Among other stuff another T-80U of most likely 4th Guards despatched. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 19 minutes ago, Panserjeger said: I loved the quote in the comments, allegedly by Vasilly Kim: "Countries with a chicken in their flag shouldn't invade countries with a fork on theirs" - Vasily Kim Mayor of Mikolayv oh man I gotta get a shirt with that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artkin Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 19 minutes ago, Phantom Captain said: They're in Cold War!! I'm positive the module was all ready to go and be released in March but we know what screwed that all up. Whaddya say @Battlefront.com, just go on and release it. We all totally realize now that our beloved CMBS is just a fantasy game now! No modules for CMCW or CMBS anytime soon And I was referring to T80U specifically. The one with the upgraded turret armor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, sburke said: oh man I gotta get a shirt with that That dude is in the running with Zelensky for coolest guy in Ukraine. Edited March 27, 2022 by akd 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BeondTheGrave Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 1 minute ago, DesertFox said: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Oh now, this is nice! Lots of good features about this system, but the 50% longer range than Stinger is certainly one of the best. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Oh my god, this is just pitiful: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Rolled back to 1997? Delusional... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinophile Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 22 minutes ago, DesertFox said: 13th time's the charm! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 1 hour ago, billbindc said: Couldn't tell you how many conversations I had just before it all kicked off with DC folks who said "But it makes *zero* rational sense for Putin to do it!". My particular bias was to look at the capabilities he was stacking up that were way beyond what was needed for pressure but would be required for compellence. This time, unfortunately my bias turned out to be right. Your "reasonable" analysis had a lot of company. A subtle difference, perhaps, is that my friend and I didn't dismiss the possibility of a full invasion as many did. We just didn't see any evidence to suggest that Putin had gone senile so quickly Another point you raised is that the forces arrayed around Ukraine were in excess of what was needed for intimidation. I do not agree. If his plan was to engage Ukrainian ground forces in the Donbas area he would need a credible invasion force to keep reserves pinned down along the regular border. Anything less than that would allow Ukraine too much freedom of action to reinforce their side of the Donbas line. Couple this with our assessment that the forces Russia amassed were about 50% of what would be needed to take over eastern Ukraine. This is why for a couple of weeks before the war we weren't thinking full invasion but were thinking limited invasion. The facts on the ground supported it, the playbook supported it, and lastly it was within Putin's usual calculus for big events. Especially because a limited attack had multiple alternatives if things didn't go well, whereas the full invasion had none. Sooo... this is saying that we put ourselves inside of Putin 2014 head and came up with limited attack. It was only a few days before the war that we suspected that Putin 2014 was no longer in charge. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, DesertFox said: Rolled back to 1997? Delusional... The only thing getting rolled back is the Russian army, which seems to have some sort deranged death wish about revisiting the epic failures, and complete collapses of 1917 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertFox Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kinophile said: 13th time's the charm! I´m pretty sure we will see it. Their lease isn´t expired yet... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan/california Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 There are really only three explanations, Putin is senile, he believed the FSB really did have a coup set up and ready, or both a and b. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danfrodo Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 just saw this. Allegedly somewhere in Kerson region. Only interesting in that we see infantry moving in broad daylight and they have VERY high morale, laughing and joking and seemingly not worried about artillery. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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