New Scenario--- "Team Yankee's First Battle"

[czarejs]

https://www.thefewgoodmen.com/tsd3/cm-cold-war/cm-cold-war-scenarios/cmcw-team-yankees-first-battle/

This is a recreation of the opening battle in the novel "Team Yankee". There aren't many options for the Soviets and Team Yankee has all the advantages...this time.

[Megalon Jones]

Thanks.  Quick question:  I’m assuming the arty should be called in after the first turn with a 5 minute delay and not during the initial setup phase.  Correct?

[danfrodo]

Thanks Czarejs, loved that book back in the 80s and just re-read it recently.  Can't wait to play this, and will as soon as I take a break from my current F&R campaign.

[czarejs]

2 hours ago, Megalon Jones said:

Thanks.  Quick question:  I’m assuming the arty should be called in after the first turn with a 5 minute delay and not during the initial setup phase.  Correct?

Hi...I think I need to make that more clear in the briefing. You should call in the arty during the initial setup. Anything else and Ivan might have too much of a start. 

[Megalon Jones]

Thanks

[Vergeltungswaffe]

Always thankful to see another scenario maker.

Looking forward to more of the TY saga.

[czarejs]

2 hours ago, Vergeltungswaffe said:

Always thankful to see another scenario maker.

Looking forward to more of the TY saga.

If I can figure out how to make a campaign I'd like to go through the whole novel.

[Roter Stern]

I have to say, I do like me a "story driven" scenario - certainly makes me care about my pixeltroopen a lot more! 

Are these positions supposed to be prepared tank firing positions?

Not going to lie, they don't work all that well, and I think there is a better way to make what you must've been trying to accomplish:

Here's how it looks like in the editor:

Hold CTRL when you do a direct elevation set to create those "blue" markers - those produce a "Ditch Lock", a much steeper elevation change.

Normally you'd want a 2-meter high berm for a good hull-down tank trench, but since these are on a significant elevation to the expected enemy, a gentle down-slope away from the berm will allow the tanks to inch front and back to find the perfect hull-down position.

Edited June 5, 2021 by Roter Stern

[Dr.Fusselpulli]

6 minutes ago, Roter Stern said:

Hold CTRL when you do a direct elevation set to create those "blue" markers - those produce a "Ditch Lock", a much steeper elevation change.

Oh my god! That works? Is that a new feature? Does it work in other CM games as well

Edited June 5, 2021 by Dr.Fusselpulli

[Roter Stern]

10 minutes ago, Dr.Fusselpulli said:

Oh my god! That works?

I mean, I'm not going to be that jerk to throw a "RTFM" at anyone ... but that has been a feature for some time (since Engine 2 or 3?) - see CM Engine Manual v4.00 (page 91) or A Scen Design AAR PDF Book (page 32). 

The manuals are really worth the read for anyone making scenarios - some kind soul put a good effort into those works. 

Here's what a "Ditch locked" tank position looks like on flat ground:

Edited June 5, 2021 by Roter Stern

[Dr.Fusselpulli]

Looks kinda funny, if a tank rolls up a +4 slope with the "ditch" setting. But yeah, now that you mention it, I think I have read about some ditch option a while ago, but never seen or tried it.

[Roter Stern]

3 minutes ago, Dr.Fusselpulli said:

Looks kinda funny, if a tank rolls up a +4 slope with the "ditch" setting. But yeah, now that you mention it, I think I have read about some ditch option a while ago, but never seen or tried it.

An easy solution to that, which also looks good visually, is to paint that berm with terrain impassible to vehicles (heavy rocks, heavy forest, deep marsh*)

*well, i guess a deep marsh berm doesn't actually look good 

[Megalon Jones]

1 hour ago, Roter Stern said:

I have to say, I do like me a "story driven" scenario - certainly makes me care about my pixeltroopen a lot more! 

Are these positions supposed to be prepared tank firing positions?

Not going to lie, they don't work all that well, and I think there is a better way to make what you must've been trying to accomplish:

Here's how it looks like in the editor:

Hold CTRL when you do a direct elevation set to create those "blue" markers - those produce a "Ditch Lock", a much steeper elevation change.

Normally you'd want a 2-meter high berm for a good hull-down tank trench, but since these are on a significant elevation to the expected enemy, a gentle down-slope away from the berm will allow the tanks to inch front and back to find the perfect hull-down position.

I just waited until the advance T72's all came into view, popped smoke and laid into them.  Ivan can't see through the smoke but the M1's can.  That's the game changer.  No loses and total victory.  

[czarejs]

55 minutes ago, Megalon Jones said:

I just waited until the advance T72's all came into view, popped smoke and laid into them.  Ivan can't see through the smoke but the M1's can.  That's the game changer.  No loses and total victory.  

Yeah, that does tend to be the result of this one. 

[czarejs]

1 hour ago, Roter Stern said:

I mean, I'm not going to be that jerk to throw a "RTFM" at anyone ... but that has been a feature for some time (since Engine 2 or 3?) - see CM Engine Manual v4.00 (page 91) or A Scen Design AAR PDF Book (page 32). 

The manuals are really worth the read for anyone making scenarios - some kind soul put a good effort into those works. 

Here's what a "Ditch locked" tank position looks like on flat ground:

I knew there had to be something like this but I couldn't find it.

[theforger]

11 hours ago, czarejs said:

If I can figure out how to make a campaign I'd like to go through the whole novel.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bear-Marches-West-Scenarios-Wargames-ebook/dp/B0086V6KA4/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+bear+marches+west&qid=1622891997&sr=8-1

This may help?

[Megalon Jones]

9 hours ago, czarejs said:

Yeah, that does tend to be the result of this one. 

You did a good job representing the scene from the novel.  Granted, it's been 35 years since I read it.  I would love to see more from you.  BTW, you might be the first to have a scenario outside the initial release.

[Thewood1]

6 hours ago, theforger said:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bear-Marches-West-Scenarios-Wargames-ebook/dp/B0086V6KA4/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+bear+marches+west&qid=1622891997&sr=8-1

This may help?

That's a very good book if you are interested in wargaming tactical ground combat in the 80s.

[Vergeltungswaffe]

17 hours ago, czarejs said:

If I can figure out how to make a campaign I'd like to go through the whole novel.

That would be amazing!

[Double Deuce]

8 hours ago, theforger said:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bear-Marches-West-Scenarios-Wargames-ebook/dp/B0086V6KA4/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+bear+marches+west&qid=1622891997&sr=8-1

This may help?

I think I have that somewhere in my book stash. Gonna to have to see if I can locate it.

[A Canadian Cat]

Here are a couple of other threads on the topic:

Some messed up images in the above post but the thumbnails show the full images OK.

 

and

 

[abpetrini65]

Hi.  Been a while sense I have played any Combat Mission games.  I forgot where in the game you put the user made battles.

[Combatintman]

1 hour ago, abpetrini65 said:

Hi.  Been a while sense I have played any Combat Mission games.  I forgot where in the game you put the user made battles.

In the scenarios folder - if you're on windows then the pathway will probably be something like this:

C:\Users\yourname\Documents\Battlefront\Combat Mission\Cold War\Game Files\Scenarios

 

 

[USASOCRanger]

Looks really cool. Team Yankee was the first thing I thought it when I saw the Cold War page. 

[Jaws]

Love it!

 

Looking forward to the other Battles of Bannon

Thx