kohlenklau Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 @mjkerner OK, I knew you had to go up north to get the data but I didn't realize you may have already done some winterizing. That's great! Thanks. @Suchy I know what you mean. One time in CMFI I modded in a CMRT T-34 for invasion of Malta. It was modded over PzIV. Looks versus reality. Like your machine gun example. The weaknesses of modding. I AM HOPING that F&R will come with adhoc German straggler teams or the Volksturm using ragtag weapons WW1 MG08 Maxim machine gun perhaps? and captured weapons would be great as well, for Stalingrad scenarios with Germans using PPsH. Perhaps THEN we have a reality along with our cosmetic looks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 @BornGinger This is that thread I mentioned in the other mod thread... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 UPDATES (03/20/21): @Erwin has connected me with his cousin who is an actual Finnish Army officer. He and I, we're working together to get the artillery commands voice files in actual Finnish Army terminology. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 For my own later research, here is an interesting bunch of photos that could help the "CMRT Finland Mod 2" Finnish Military photos (mostly) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 What was interesting when I was in Finland was learning that they used the Swastika way before the Germans adopted it, and continued its use for quite a long time after WW2 (IIRC). Also, the Finnish army museum was full of WW2 equipment - especially captured Russian tanks etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM Stuff Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Very interresting, I think we have more and more possibilities to have a early war period. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted April 19, 2021 Author Share Posted April 19, 2021 Here is a record of what I got from a very fine gentleman who I will respect his overall privacy. He retired as a colonel in the Finnish Army. He served as a UN peacekeeper. He works at a Finnish military museum. I wish I could go and shake his hand. AND THERE IS MORE! This guy's Dad served in WW2 and had bullets hit him on 2 different occasions. Once from Soviet weapons. Another time from German weapons. These are the basic CM artillery commands. In each military with a different language, there are interesting differences in how they get the basic concepts across. My starting point was to tell him what was said in English as the US Army terms and method for the artillery support sequences portrayed in CM using the voice files. Then he would give me what must be said in Finnish ******************************************************************* PHRASE 1*: GROUP 1 SAYS: "REQUEST FIRE MISSION, OVER"TULIKOMENTOJA, KUUNTELEN (firecommands - listen)*PHRASE 2:* GROUP 2 REPLIES: "FIRE MISSION REQUEST RECEIVED, OUT"TULIKOMENTOJA, VALMIS (firecommands, ready)*PHRASE 3:* GROUP 2 SAYS "ADJUST FIRE, OVER" (Here the game simulates some spotting to get accuracy)Does this mean to fire once and see where is the hit?We call it HAKUAMMUNTA - search fireIf you fire once you sayMAALI MEKKA (TARGET and the name of it is MEKKA) KERTA AMPUKAAsame as TARGET MEKKA, ONCE, FIREIf you only aim to the targetMAALI MEKKA (TARGET and the name of it MEKKA) SUUNTAAsuuntaa – to aim the targetWhat is the difference ”adjust fire, over or out”?*PHRASE 4:* GROUP 2 SAYS "ADJUST FIRE, OUT" (Spotting is conducted by infantry/FO)We have always the fire plan, all the targets are named and measures before. So we only give the name of the target and which effect we want.* PHRASE 5:* GROUP 1 SAYS "FIRE FOR EFFECT, OVER" (the adjustments are not mentioned)TORJUNTA MEKKA , AMPUKAAThe targets can be ESTE - ”obstacle” or TORJUNTA - ”repel, repulse”. Depends how many shells per minute you want. Torjunta or repulse is the most effective fire during 1-2 minutes.AMPUKAA or SUUNTAA means also OVER* PHRASE 6:* GROUP 2 THEN SAYS "FIRE FOR EFFECT, ROGER" (they confirm that spotter FO is happy with adjustments and now come the rounds)TORJUNTA MEKKA, AMPUKAA* PHRASE 7:* GROUP 1 MIGHT HAVE TO STOP FIRE AND SAYS "CHECK FIRE, CHECK > FIRE, CHECK FIRE!" (3 times, emergency)(simply) TULI SEIS (stop the fire)* PHRASE 8:* GROUP 2 CONFIRMS THEIR REQUEST "ROGER, CHECK FIRE, END OF MISSION" (game simplifies that mission is over)TULI SEIS – TULITAUKO (firepause)* PHRASE 9:* IF NO EMERGENCY, THEN MISSION NATURALLY ENDS AND GROUP 2Usually I speak Peacekeepers' English. It means 50 % with hands. I try to translate some Finnish.I have some almost autentic commands in Tali Ihantala battle in 1944It's a Movie ”Tali – Ihantala 1944”Basic wordsTulenjohtaja (tja) – forward observerTulenjohtokomentaja (tjkom) - commanding forward observer, who coordinates the whole firepowerName of the targets which really were in Ihantala July 1944 ”KARKIMO”, ”MEKKA”Code of tja FO was KARHU KAKSI (BEAR 2)Code of the tjkom was OTTO YKSI (OTTO 1)TULIKOMENTO(JA) – Tuli – fire, komento – command(s). This is always opening command to ask fire. (fire request)KUUNTELEN – I listen or OVERTORJUNTA is it repel or repulse? How ever the most effect fire 1 to 3 minutes so fast as possible to the ready measured target(s)AMPUKAA – FIREAct One in movieTulenjohtaja (tja) – Forward Observer comes to the batallion command post. At the same time orderly from the frontline company comes and says ”Company commander asked fire to the front.FO -Tja says to the radio ”OTTO YKSI KARHU KAKSI, KUUNTELENTULIKOMENTO TORJUNTA KARKIMO AMPUKAA, TORJUNTA KARKIMO AMPUKAAand fire of 21 batteries and one heavy battery, 254 tubes, fired to the same targets.Act two in movieCompany commander and forward observer name the ”barrier”targets as MEKKA 1 and MEKKA 2. Botht together KOKO MEKKA – whole mekkaWhen the attack starts FO commands first ”TULIKOMENTOJA, MEKKA 1, AMPUKAA”Because it wasn't effective enough, soon had to give new one !KOKO MEKKA AMPUKAA” ********************************************** back to kohlenklau...I ordered that movie on ebay a few weeks ago. It will arrive until this summer sometime. The guy must be walking to bring me the DVD...! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerner Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Cool, Phil! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Dare Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 21 hours ago, kohlenklau said: back to kohlenklau...I ordered that movie on ebay a few weeks ago. It will arrive until this summer sometime. The guy must be walking to bring me the DVD...! great movie...epic I must say...you will enjoy it...I did and still do it from time to time...a lot.. there is also "unknown soldier"(2017) quite welldone and another which name I could not recall and quite hard to find in my storage drive... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous_Jonze Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Unknown Soldier is probably one of my favorite war movies ever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Gonna bump this as I'm currently having a lot of fun with the Tali-Ihantala campaign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commanderski Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 50 minutes ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: Tali-Ihantala campaign Is this being tested or is it available to download somewhere? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 16 minutes ago, Commanderski said: Is this being tested or is it available to download somewhere? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suchy Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) Are you ready for... a major update of Finland mod??? https://imgur.com/J3Jllfk Edited November 12, 2021 by Suchy 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Not sure if you are doing more mods, but I have some pics I took at the Finnish Army museum of their captured Soviet WW2 tanks etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 6 hours ago, Suchy said: Are you ready for... a major update of Finland mod??? It looks great Tommy! I am always ready for modding... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suchy Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 @Erwin I would love to see these pictures. I modeled the pictures from the internet from Parola. But my modding skills are not like other masters e.g. Aris. The point is, that in game Finnish equipment should not scare with German or Soviet painting, but at least roughly similar to real Finnish camouflage. I think I have achieved this goal? @kohlenklau I like Finns and your mod, so in my free time I decided to extend it a bit I expanded Crete mod too I will slowly get down to Romanians and Hungarians as well. I also have Polish tankette from September 1939 https://imgur.com/a/RN98Jmf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Suchy said: I expanded excellent Tommy, please go, Go, GO, GO!! I think modding CM is best as a team sport and we all win when people team up to try to do mods or expand (improve and make better!) some old guy's mods. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Suchy said: I would love to see these pictures. I scanned 4 pics to a page. 2 pages. (These are some photos taken over 30 years ago.) PM your e-mail to me and I'll send... They are almost 2.5MB each. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) @Suchy This site might be of interest too (if you haven't found it already), it has details of almost all of the StuGs provided to Finland: http://www.andreaslarka.net/sturmi.html I'm a huge fan of 'Sturmis' and this mod. Edited November 12, 2021 by Sgt.Squarehead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suchy Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Dirty and muddy StuG https://imgur.com/a/asprb9w 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suchy Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Dirty and muddy T34 https://imgur.com/a/dQNk1D3 And now, due to another wave of family and work duties, a few days break in modding. I'm still going to prepare T70 (as Finnish T26 and Vickers) and BA64 (3D model swapped from SdKfz 221, as Finnish BA20). Well maybe still Panzer IIIG (swapped 3D model with Stuart V) as Finnish T-50 and IS-1 as captured Finnish KW1. Both made mods I will make available in Dropbox. A few scenarios using this equipment would be useful... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suchy Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Winter in Finland https://imgur.com/a/1jVhI6e 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohlenklau Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 On 11/13/2021 at 6:30 AM, Suchy said: A few scenarios using this equipment would be useful... I will start to write some small scenarios for these new mods... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn2002 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 45 minutes ago, kohlenklau said: I will start to write some small scenarios for these new mods... Great job, guys. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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