Baneman Posted December 19, 2015 Author Share Posted December 19, 2015 But...if it does...Do you think it will be able to hurt Kitty...From the front...If it gets the first shot of...? The distance is quite short...I don't know - you can all "learn along with me" Another thing it is worth remembering is that moving through those woods takes lots of time - guys get to Tiring pretty quick and I've been forced to use MOVE a lot to let them recover and still effect some forward movement.That's going to affect a lot of playstyles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Thanks for the great play-by-play, Baneman. Great AAR. Indeed a pity your Panther will not get to shoot. You spotted that Hellcat fair and square and it's quite exposed by the look of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macisle Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Und more action ! Or at least - we've seen the enemy ... or is that I gave my Panther a very short Hunt forward and after a 15s delay, a Reverse back. Finally he spots the enemy "Mystery Tank". Unfortunately, there were only about 5s left before he pulled back, so although he aimed at it, no shot was fired. Well, now we know what it is ...Great stuff, Baneman. Keep those reports coming! And on the Panther vs. Mystery Tank...TENSION. Bummer on not getting a shot and fingers crossed on getting the next first spot and winning any duels. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn2002 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Very enjoyable Saturday morning reading, Baneman. Perhaps you can bait that Hellcat with some infantry or a halftrack and nail him. I really hope you will. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinrich505 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Baneman, Good hunting for the Panther. We'd like to see the flame animation for the Hellcat... This could be considered a cliffhanger...hmmm....Cry Havoc...Heinrich505 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 That duel on your right looks interesting. Will a 128mm shell at a few hundred meters even know if it passes through a Hellcat? How heartbroken will you be if the Jagdtiger takes a hit, it ricochets, then you see a red 'x' for "Main Gun"? I like the infantry advance on the left: a lot of great cross-support. Will you have time in the game for a foot-speed advance through snow?Thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I see our traitorous Scotsmen are at it again. Looks like this is another one of those "Int'l Nazi units" Didn't know there was one made of Scotsmen. George will be pissed to find that out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macisle Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I see our traitorous Scotsmen are at it again. Looks like this is another one of those "Int'l Nazi units" Didn't know there was one made of Scotsmen. George will be pissed to find that out.He-he. That's exactly what I was thinking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Jack Ripper Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Do you think it will be able to hurt Kitty...From the front...If it gets the first shot of...? The distance is quite short...A 76mm gun vs. the frontal armor of a JagdTiger? Not. A. Chance. None.However, Hellcats are fast enough to easily outmaneuver the big Kit Kat, so if he advances while unsupported, he'll be one big, dead Kit Kat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 Apologies for the delay in this - weekend was written off due to pesky birthday celebrations.I have watched the next turn, it's all getting very exciting as Bil decides to go aggressive. No less than 4 (!) TD's seen advancing on my right, engaging my Panther. Big Kitty doesn't quite have LoS Will have pictures later today ( ie. after work ). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hister Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Hold tight Baneman! And try to advance your tanks in pairs or even better - in triple. That way they have a better chance at killing the foe and getting away with less losses. Haven't you read Bil's tactical blog? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 And try to advance your tanks in pairs or even better - in triple. That way they have a better chance at killing the foe and getting away with less losses. Haven't you read Bil's tactical blog? At the moment, on that side, the best I can do is move the Big Kitty forward some more and hope it can see over the hill edge.One or two of the TD's have fired at my Panther, it saw one TD and has fired one shot in return - it was high, but only fractionally. Just have to hope it gets the next shot on target - it IS my Veteran Panther. If Bil takes it out without losing any of his TD's, this attack is going to go badly ( already )Must admit - I generally assume "defenders" to have less armour ( with the caveat that Allies will generally be able to afford more than the Axis ), so wasn't expecting a forward push with so much.But it is Bil, so since he got early intel with his scouts at "The Trouble Spot", I guess he thinks he can overwhelm my armour and dominate that flank.If he can pull it off, things will look bad for me. If the Big Kitty can get LoS/LoF on the TD's it might cost him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockinHarry Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Would´ve liked to see some volksgrenadiers riding on the Panthers into action, but now it seems too late with Bil´s armor nearby. Could´ve been a quick aggressively employed forward detachement, when used right from the start IMO, although risky. Otherwise would be a good showcase for new tank riders in CMFB. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 I'm going to assume that Bil will have showcased American tank-riders That's my story and I'm sticking to it.( I was too concerned about possible ATG's in truth ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) Okay, here is the situation at the front.On my right, 3 TD's pushed forward. They are effectively hull-down to the ridgeline. Both (A) and (B) are firing on my Panther, although I can only see (B) So far they have fired one round short, one long and one fired on the Stummel as it rushed forwards into the tiny wood. Panther has fired one return shot which was high There may be a round in flight too - and Panther is Aiming.Most disturbing of all is (D) - it appears to be a Sherman ( Easy-Eight ? ) which can see and shoot at my 251/1 right through the forest. My men IN the forest can't see out. You live and learn - looks like I'm learning that forests are NO cover at all.Panther has to duke it out, there's nowhere to go. JagdTiger is moving forward a little, but already has "Reverse Slope" on the TD's positions. Moving forward does not improve this much. Looks like Bil has read this terrain to the millimetre - he can see and shoot my whole backfield, I can't see ****.Towards the Centre, the original TD has pulled back a bit more from the ridgeline ( red dashes ). I did drop a few mortar rounds back there, one may have landed close by.Finally on the left, the slow-motion assault continues Edited December 21, 2015 by Baneman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Most disturbing of all is (D) - it appears to be a Sherman ( Easy-Eight ? ) which can see and shoot at my 251/1 right through the forest. My men IN the forest can't see out. You live and learn - looks like I'm learning that forests are NO cover at all. One of those weird LOS/LOF situations that is hopelessly difficult to predict...Very frustrating indeed ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Panzer Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Really enjoying the info provided in this thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Williams Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I'm late to the party, but you know I'm in your corner Ian.Now, to catch up on some reading in this thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 Dear SantaPlease can I have a .. a pony ... anna .. anna ... burning Hellcat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Those of you following Bil's thread probably know the outcome of the Duel in the Snow already, but it was certainly rather pleasing to the German commander The round that was in flight from the Hellcat last turn overshot. Another round pinged off the front glacis. The return shot was true !Thanks Santa !A few seconds later, emerging over the rise of "The Trouble Spot" come two more Hellcats Hyper-alert, my Veteran Panther spots one immediately, calmly slews its turret and takes him out with a first shot hit..The forward Panther by the forest then spots the second and scores an instant hit there too. Both tanks put a second round in their target to be sure. Edited December 23, 2015 by Baneman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 Bil's TD rush was backed up by the Sherman ( and a second was soon spotted as well ), shooting up my men in the forest. I lose 6 men from various teams.Big Kitty is moving up to drive those away. But first I'm reversing - so I can come back up closer to the forest edge and also if the Hellcat (C) tries an aggressive rush to get on its flank, it will be in trouble from Kitty and the Panther below. The Stummel is firing some smoke ( it's not going to be very effective, the wind is Medium and blowing directly towards Bil ) to cover the Kitty's flank from (C) if it does not move forward.D and E ( the 2 Shermans appear to be an Easy Eight and a Jumbo ! Look at that glacis slab ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mies Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Thanks Baneman, really enjoyable to read and good result there! Already prepping my significant other that a new game is looming. She cringed a bit but I firmly stood my ground....sort of.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 Finally, here's a wider overview. With both flank threats burning, the Forest Panther is moving up to also try for a sight of the Shermans - 2 can play the I-can-see-through-the-forest game. HMG's are moving slowly in bounds. If I can reach the building complex, I will have good sight into the rest of the map.I've left the left out of this report since it's boring old infantry movement. No confirmed enemy sighting yet. The 2 HMG's that fired into town certainly caused an abrupt cessation of the .50 firing out. I hope that means the jeep was hit, but probably just forced to reposition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 So there you have it - a much better result than I even dared hope for. His Hellcat's were a bit off with their shooting ( possibly the downhill angle made it more difficult for them ), I think there was only 1 ricochet, the rest of their firing all missed. Panther scored 3 / 4. So glad I paid for one upgrade to Veteran.Certainly a better result for me than Bil could have been expecting - he did everything right to overwhelm my meagre armour. Hopefully this dislocates his planning a bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 That was an awesome minute you had there. Baneman. Watching the flanks of the JagdTiger is a good idea. You never know what Bil has up his sleeve. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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