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Glubokii Boy got a reaction from A Canadian Cat in Passive attacking AI January 15, 2021

No...it is not 😊
The map is done, the research is done, most of the unit rosters are done...
And remember...
In a two option scenario you need an AI plan for both sides also....No Major increase in work to make one AI plan each for two scenarios rather than two AI plans for one scenario...

Glubokii Boy got a reaction from chuckdyke in Passive attacking AI January 13, 2021

It has been a known fact for many years that the AI is incapable of conducting a good attack. The current tools in the editor does not allow for such an attack to be designed.
The number of AI attacking scenarios that have been designed in the last couple of years are very few...and the number of GOOD AI attacking scenarios are even fewer.
A very small group of the most experienced and skilled designers might be able to design a decent AI attack scenario...but it is indeed very, very difficult to do right now...
Atleast if you want the defending player to command anything larger then a platoon...
If the defending player commands a company...then the AI would need to attack with a reinforced battalion. Something that it is completally incapable of commanding in anything that recembles a good way.
The quality and limitations of the AI is a discussion that has been ongoing for many years. Strangely quite a few of the members on this forum refuse to admit that the AI is lacking and don't seem to care about the fact that the current option for a human player is to play as the attacker...only !
If he wants a good fight...
I find this kind of strange...we are currently only playing 'half' a game....As the attacker.
Vs the AI the option to play as the defender does almost not exist.
As a defender the AI can be a challange for sure and usually performs fairly well but on the attack....NO, NO, NO
The claim made by a few that the AI actually does fairly well if left on its own (not scripted) is utterly ridicculus...to name a few shortcommings...
On its own...
- it does not use smoke (mid, late game)
- its indirect support is often badely timed and at times even badely targeted.
- It makes poor use of special weapons such ad flamethrowers, panzerschrecks and snipers.
- it will never area fire (with direct fire weapons) on likely enemy possitions.
- it very rarely possitions...and repossitions its base of fire supporting weapons in good possitions. They kind of just tag along.
- the AI overall situational awareness is very limited as is its understanding of the terrain.
- it does not reinforce succes or abandones failure.
- limited vehicle - infantry cooperation.
- it has no understanding of dangerareas but often sigg, saggs its way forward in and out of cover.
A brunch of members here are advocating for improved scriptingtools...to be able to help the AI to perform better...but others do not agree...
Different people wants different things I guess...but as some are suggesting...that we should aim for less micromanaging (scripting) is not very realistic imo...
Not with the current gameengine...and since v.5 of this engine has just been annonced i doubt we will see CM3 for atleast a few years yet.
A more selfcontrolling AI might possibly be a thing with CM3...maybe.
But lets first work with what we have got...that is CM2...
Improved scripting seems far more realistic to me atleast...hopefully we will get some with v.5.
Playing as the defender is...fun afterall. If faced by a decent advisary.
Even if that is not a human.

Glubokii Boy got a reaction from ThePhantom in More centralised AI-groups for better game play January 13, 2021

Another small example 😎
Situation...a german rifle platoon supported by an HMG, a medium mortar and a Stummel halftrack.
Put all these units in one AI group and have them adance....the result will not be pretty !
On the other hand if the rifle platoon could be its own AI group (or even two) and the HMG, mortar and halftrack where placed in seperate AI groups...
- The mortarteam could provide indirect HE fire at the desired time and locations as the platoon advances...
- the HMG could be made to occupy good base of fire possitions and provide both suppretionfire (areafire) as well as engaging spotted enemies. And then move forward at desired times.
- simularely the Stummel could be held back and provide direct fire HE using both areafire as well as targeting spotted enemies...advancing carefully behind the infantry using shoot and scoot tactics...
The difference in AI performance between using one or multiple AI groups in the example above would be...night and day 😊
I realize that very few designes will ever put these units into one single AI group even now...but it kind of shows the difference between one and multiple groups

Glubokii Boy got a reaction from FredLW in Fire and Rubble Update January 24, 2021