Rocky Balboa Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Sorry if this has been asked already but I haven't been around for a while. I was looking at the TOE for CM-Normandy and noticed the US Ranger BN wasn't included, any plans on adding this one in the future? Also while I'm on the subject please include the TOE for British commandos in the commonwealth module. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noxnoctum Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Rangers would be fun . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Give them time. We eventually got the IBCT in CMSF after two modules and all signs point to the amount of content per initial release/module to have grown significantly now that the engine has matured. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I did a quick Google search of the history of the Rangers in Normandy. It seemed like mostly a 1 day affair where most of 'em died. (rather like airborne winkling out for awhile after Carentan) I know nothing about Army Ranger TO&E. It may be likely you can just take any infantry unit and rename them - That suggestion's based on no actual knowledge on the subject. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I did a quick Google search of the history of the Rangers in Normandy. It seemed like mostly a 1 day affair where most of 'em died. (rather like airborne winkling out for awhile after Carentan) I know nothing about Army Ranger TO&E. It may be likely you can just take any infantry unit and rename them - That suggestion's based on no actual knowledge on the subject. The 2nd and 5th Ranger battalions were in action off and on in Normandy up to the assault on Brest, in which both participated playing a very important role. TO&E was significantly different even at squad level, but we should have all the needed equipment. The Ranger Battalion, circa 1944 Headquarters Company (8 Officers, 88 men) Battalion Headquarters (7 Officers) Staff Platoon (1 Officer, 28 men) Intelligence Section (7 men) Supply & Transport Platoon (31 men) Communications Platoon (22 men) Six Rifle Companies (3 Officers, 65 men), each comprised of; Company HQ (1 Officer, 3 men) Two Rifle Platoons, each comprised of; Platoon HQ (1 Officer, 3 men) Two Assault Sections, each comprised of 11 men Weapons Section comprised of 6 men Total Strength of 504 all ranks (26 Officers and 478 men) Points of note The Ranger Company is probably the smallest and leanest company deployed by the United States during the war. Like the British Commando Troop, it boiled a normal Rifle Company down to its bare minimum; two platoons of two squads, each with a small weapons element and the barest command functions. The obvious omission is heavy weapons. HQ Company maintained six 81-mm mortars which one of the Rifle Companies could operate as and when required, but there were no heavy machine guns. The elements of the Battalion Headquarters Company - provided the necessary admin and motor pool for the Battalion, plus its command staff and signals. It also maintained an impressive weapons pool for issue as required. Along with the six 81 mm mortars there were six 60 mm weapons, twenty submachine guns and by mid 1944 ten Bazookas. The Ranger Company - the Ranger Rifle Company packed considerable punch for its size. Company HQ was no more than an Officer, Sergeant, and runners. Platoon HQ had the same format, but introduced a sniper rifle, the M1903A4, as well. The Assault Section seems to have begun as a normal 12 man squad. In the above formation though, it had split into a five man assault element, a five man machine gun element and a Section leader. The machine gun was the M1919 Browning light machine gun, with NCO, gunner, loader and ammunition bearers. The Weapons Section served a single 60-mm mortar, and there was also a Bazooka available for each Platoon. Only the Officer and Sergeants at the HQ levels carried submachine guns in theory at least, while gunners and loaders had .45-cal pistols, the remainder M1 Rifles. Summary The Ranger Battalions provided the US Army with an elite formation which it could entrust with the capture of vital objectives during the many amphibious landings they undertook. The Rangers never got to raid Fortress Europe in the same way as their British counterparts, but they introduced the US to the notion of irregular, special forces, an idea they have today practically patented. http://www.bayonetstrength.150m.com/UnitedStates/united_states_army_ranger_battal.htm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Balboa Posted December 29, 2010 Author Share Posted December 29, 2010 While they are best known for their famous objectives on D-day, they actually participated quiet a bit in several operations and stayed on the European continent until the end of the war. 2nd Ranger History For those interested in the TO&E it is a little different than your standard Infantry or AB Bn. 1944 US Ranger BN TO&E 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 ...(rather like airborne winkling out for awhile after Carentan)... That might have been the 101st. I don't actually know when they were pulled out of combat. But Wiki says this about the 82nd.: By the time the All-American Division was pulled back to England, it had seen 33 days of bloody combat and suffered 5,245 troopers killed, wounded, or missing. Ridgway's post-battle report stated in part, "...33 days of action without relief, without replacements. Every mission accomplished. No ground gained was ever relinquished." Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 But Wiki says this about the 82nd.: Michael Wiki also says you look smokin' in hot pants...can we REEEEALLY trust them? Mord. P.S. If they get fire in the game...I will catch you old man. Those pants are gonna impede your circulation and hence...your stride. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Rangers are not going to be in the initial game, 1st Module, or 2nd Module. Decent candidates for the final "Battle Pack" Module. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berlichtingen Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Wiki also says you look smokin' in hot pants...can we REEEEALLY trust them? No, you misread... it says steamin', as in "steamin' pile of..." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finalcut Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Didn't Tom Hanks lead a Squad of Rangers during the Normandy Operation.Is Tom Hanks going to be in the game?If not,then this will be a deal breaker for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietrich Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Didn't Tom Hanks lead a Squad of Rangers during the Normandy Operation.Is Tom Hanks going to be in the game? He was last sighted (or heard, rather) commanding a Canadian infantry platoon in Afghanistan a few years ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eD_Lo61rAw. By now, though, his roto is no doubt over, so he could perhaps be persuaded to furnish some voice acting for CMBN. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Bijlsma Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 *doh nevermind, brainfart* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Didn't Tom Hanks lead a Squad of Rangers during the Normandy Operation Ah! Proves my earlier point. Hanks and Co all got themselves all killed off inside the first couple days, didn't they? So Tom Hanks wouldn't show up in the TO&E much past June 8 or so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finalcut Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Ah! Proves my earlier point. Hanks and Co all got themselves all killed off inside the first couple days, didn't they? So Tom Hanks wouldn't show up in the TO&E much past June 8 or so. Cpl Upham and Private Ryan survived.Of course you are technically correct,all the Rangers died.Upham pissed me off.:mad: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Cpl Upham eventually got his just deserts by getting LOST on a magical moving island on TV for several seasons... then getting shot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noxnoctum Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Was he in LOST? I stopped watching once it was obvious that the writers did not have a clear direction and were just throwing random stuff in until they could come up with an ending. I was really pissed when I first watched SPR that Upham didn't die... when he could have easily saved the Jewish guy. Shoulda been shot for cowardice, lil bastard. Also that A-10 vid... seen it before but it really is uncanny how much it sounds EXACTLY like Tom Hanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 In LOST he went back in time and was killed by his own mother before he was born. That'll teach the cringing little SOB 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noxnoctum Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Ahhh nice to hear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverstars Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Don't forget that Private Reiben(Edward Burns) also lived. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noxnoctum Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Yes... and he deserved to. My favorite character probably. Badass NYC mofo running around with his BAR hipshooting krauts. Great stuff . Not to mention flanking that 20mm and killing its crew! If we can rename units in BfN I'm renaming a unit in his honor . I might rename a unit for suicide missions/distraction attacks Upham too... or maybe I'll wait till the Ostfront game where maybe we'll get penal units . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 So it's come to this...people posing as grogs who get their history solely from war movies. I guess it had to happen. The human race is doomed. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noxnoctum Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Lol "people posing as grogs who get their history solely from war movies" that's going a bit far. I'm guessing it's in jest though . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mace Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 In LOST he went back in time and was killed by his own mother before he was born. That'll teach the cringing little SOB ...and then ended up on the orbital platform just off Solaris. He certainly gets around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Lol "people posing as grogs who get their history solely from war movies" that's going a bit far. I'm guessing it's in jest though . Yes, but only slightly. You may not realize how frustrating it can get sometimes... Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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