M1A1TC Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 BFC Could you please consider adding the newest uparmored Humvee with ballistic gunner shield, smoke launchers, etc. Thats pretty much what the front line Humvees look like. This would add realism and usability to game's humvees IMO. Thank PS. They also look a lot cooler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sequoia Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 Wow, that be a cool addition for the Marine module. No reason that new Blue forces be restricted to Marines only. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnO Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 yes, they do look cool. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanker15 Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 What happens if someone throws a grenade into it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Panzer Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Good images M1TC, thank you for sharing. I too would like to see a greater variety of M114's when BFC can implement them. A TOW variant would be welcome. In the short term, can the crew member models in the M114's be repositioned such that their feet do not protrude from the bottom of the vehicle in 1.05? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zemke Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Those pictures are from Afghanistan, if I am lying I'm dying....lol. I also think adding the latest UAH would be good. I also think the next mod should include an Afghanistan potion, which would be easy. Make groups of four UAH teams with four man crews to simulate SF and ETT teams there would be all you would have to add. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1A1TC Posted October 7, 2007 Author Share Posted October 7, 2007 Yes, they are all from Afganistan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spindry69 Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Armoured Humvees would be really add to the game especially in smaller realistic scenarios. Maybe an addition in the Marines module? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Other Means Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Jeez, why not just use a Staghound or sumfink? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandur Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 hm, after all, wherent humvees supposed to be jeeps at some point much earlier!? whats the weight of these latest models!? their offroad ability doesnt seem to be important!? beside that, it would be nice to have them ingame. right now the humvees arent of too much use in the game(as taxi their good), so the most uparmored humvee could proove more usefull in combat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1A1TC Posted October 7, 2007 Author Share Posted October 7, 2007 Humvees were designed as a behind-the-lines method of transportation, not for combat. Even armored scout/MP humvees arent meant to fight. The war with Afganistan and Iraq proved that US Army needs more protection. Now humvees that are shown in-game no longer allowed to even leave the green zones. Seems to me like most of game's models were created a long time ago before many armor packages were made standard. BFC please update in-game models to show RL vehicles. Isnt this game supposed to be realistic? Thanks Yes, current humvees are useless. The gunner is first one to die (because in-game he doesnt have a shield) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigduke6 Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 How many BTRs can you buy for the price of one of those uparmored humvees? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jBrereton Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Originally posted by Bigduke6: How many BTRs can you buy for the price of one of those uparmored humvees? 237 BTR-90s, and they're roughly 700 times as fuel efficient, too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splinty Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 M1A1 is right, the current crop of M1114s and all M1151s have Level 5 armor, and most of them have the glassed in powered turrets also. These are the kind shown in the top 3 photos. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1A1TC Posted November 3, 2007 Author Share Posted November 3, 2007 bump 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Fighting Seabee Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 M1A1TC, I'm with you bud. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 Might as well include anti-sniper kits on the Strykers and Hmmv's too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1A1TC Posted November 3, 2007 Author Share Posted November 3, 2007 and anti-IED kits as well 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewood Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 Steve mentioned that this was one of the hazards of doing a modern game. You can't predict how things will change in a short period of time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1A1TC Posted November 3, 2007 Author Share Posted November 3, 2007 I thought that the game mechanics/code was done first, then the visuals (hence the lack of screenshots in the beginning of the development cycle of CMSF as explained by BFC) If the visuals/artwork are done last, why is it so hard to add few polygons to the models? Maybe the anwser is that there was not enough time and the game had to be rushed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewood Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 I have a feeling its the animation part that takes the most time. And the rush thing is probably a big part of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Originally posted by M1A1TankCommander: The war with Afganistan and Iraq proved that US Army needs more protection. Now humvees that are shown in-game no longer allowed to even leave the green zones.Yeah, but the current war/insurgency Iraq and Afghanistan is rather different from a putative invasion of Syria, no? All the up-armouring of HMMWV going on is in response to the specific situation in those two countries, and the fact that the units are in the same basic area for months at a time, have to patrol on a daily basis with whatever transport is available from fixed firebases, and that nowhere and everywhere is the frontline. None of those conditions would be true in a near-conventional invasion. I would be very surprised if the US Army went into Syria (or wherever they decide to invade next) with a HMMWV fleet that looked much like what is being used in Iq or Af. Pandur: ... it would be nice to have them in[-]game. [R]ight now the humvees aren[']t of too much use in the game (as taxi [they're] good), so the most uparmored humvee could [prove] more [useful] in combat.Um, yeah. Exactly. They aren't meant to be used in combat. They are meant to be used as taxis and delivery trucks. If you mis-use them and lose them, well ... look in the mirror for the reason why Regards Jon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 "why is it so hard to add few polygons to the models?" To do models you need scale plans and references. BFC performed miracles building the Stryker polys - now you can go to your local mall and buy a Stryker kit off the shelf. The baseline M1114 wasn't much more cooperative. I struggled to 'guesstimate' decent 4-view scale plans just of the darned little gunshield and emailed 'em a copy to use on the model. Now I think Concord(?) has released a very good Humvee reference book with scale drawings of the wrap-around roof armor - but even that's outdated now in regard to what's currently in the field! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splinty Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Originally posted by JonS: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by M1A1TankCommander: The war with Afganistan and Iraq proved that US Army needs more protection. Now humvees that are shown in-game no longer allowed to even leave the green zones.Yeah, but the current war/insurgency Iraq and Afghanistan is rather different from a putative invasion of Syria, no? All the up-armouring of HMMWV going on is in response to the specific situation in those two countries, and the fact that the units are in the same basic area for months at a time, have to patrol on a daily basis with whatever transport is available from fixed firebases, and that nowhere and everywhere is the frontline. None of those conditions would be true in a near-conventional invasion. I would be very surprised if the US Army went into Syria (or wherever they decide to invade next) with a HMMWV fleet that looked much like what is being used in Iq or Af. Pandur: ... it would be nice to have them in[-]game. [R]ight now the humvees aren[']t of too much use in the game (as taxi [they're] good), so the most uparmored humvee could [prove] more [useful] in combat.Um, yeah. Exactly. They aren't meant to be used in combat. They are meant to be used as taxis and delivery trucks. If you mis-use them and lose them, well ... look in the mirror for the reason why Regards Jon </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuomio Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Originally posted by thewood: Steve mentioned that this was one of the hazards of doing a modern game. You can't predict how things will change in a short period of time. Its also a blessing, we can always drool for various combinations of equipment so we can test them out on virtual fieds. I personally would rather see 2 years of pure, under the hood code improvement than 1000 new variants of equipment. What are you gonna do with the uparmored humvee, if its doing eights around the supposed target when youre not watching? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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