danfrodo Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 4 hours ago, LongLeftFlank said: Comic book manuals and *shudder* reading is so, like 1985, Daddy-O. The Millenials and Gen Zer(o)s viddy the old YT.... YT has saved me a fortune. Bathroom fan failed? YT video on how to replace. Plumbing issue? YT video. Corroded pipe under house? YT video. Car problem? YT video. How to cook something I've never made before? YT video. It aint just for kids anymore. Of course, how to get trained for warfare probably needs quite a bit of doing & practicing after watching said videos. Whether manual or video, being sent to the front w/o training is dang close to a death sentence. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) At the Russian school, where future officer studied - sen.lt. Andrey Grakov, who was killed in Ukraine, was hanged memorial plaque, where in cirсumstances of his death was confirmed the strike at S-400 on 5th Aug. Grakov was commander of radar crew (on plaque has written MLRS - looks like multi-functional and fire control radar 92N6E) - all were hit by fragments, he has died in hospital next day. 92N6E Edited October 15, 2022 by Haiduk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letter from Prague Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Rumors of mass shooting at Belgorod base - some chmobiks or stop-lossed contractors allegedly. Can someone who can read Russian telegram confirm or is it some fake/psyop? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_MonkeyKing Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 No footage of losses so I take it this was not a failed attack but a probe, a raid or "preparing the battle field" ext. In case of failed attack by Ukraine (even on company scale) we would see drone footage of Ukraine losses. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Letter from Prague said: Rumors of mass shooting at Belgorod base - some chmobiks or stop-lossed contractors allegedly. Can someone who can read Russian telegram confirm or is it some fake/psyop? There are rumors that shooters were natives of Tajikistan, having Russian citizenship - many tajiks came to Russia, they have dirty job in Moscow and some other large Russian cities like unqualified workers on buildings and garbagers. But they could receive Russian citizenship. Russians mostly treat them with contempt, calling "churki", so likely the shooting is a consequence of ethnic conflict. Reportedly there were three shooters - two were killed in skirmish, one escaped. Reportedly 22 KIA, 16 WIA, but uncondirmed yet. Edited October 15, 2022 by Haiduk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, Letter from Prague said: Rumors of mass shooting at Belgorod base - some chmobiks or stop-lossed contractors allegedly. Can someone who can read Russian telegram confirm or is it some fake/psyop? Sky News are reporting it Ukraine war: Eleven volunteer soldiers killed in Russian military firing range shooting, Kremlin ministry of defence says | World News | Sky News 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, The_MonkeyKing said: No footage of losses so I take it this was not a failed attack but a probe, a raid or "preparing the battle field" ext. In case of failed attack by Ukraine (even on company scale) we would see drone footage of Ukraine losses. Strange silence from both sides. After active morning information boom, no any info all day after this. Footage usually come in next 1-2 days. On other hand some UKR twitters about hour ago posted RUMINT as if Mylove is our, but no any confirmation about this. Maybe really not successfull attempt of offensive, but w/o heavy losses, because most of Russian TG channels also didn't post any victorious reports, if not to count of collaborator Stremousov and a pair of crazy Z-telegrammers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FancyCat Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Kids playing in the crater from Kh-101 missile in Shevchenko park in the center of Kyiv. Missile impacted in dozen meters from kids playground. Fortunately, during the strike no one was on the playground Voice beyond the cadre: "they wanted to intimidate us, but made another one attraction for kids" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 4 hours ago, dan/california said: One of the Russian's fundamental mistakes is mistaking toughness for effectiveness. that is very definitely not just a fundamental mistake by the Russians. This thread (among many examples) has shown it to be a universal mistake. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, FancyCat said: Well that's a super confusing colour palette - green for ocean, blue for land. Good work, edgy graphic designer guy. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haiduk Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) When soldiers have many time ) Border Guards want to wage a war with comfort and built a brick stove with fireplace in one of own blindages ) Edited October 15, 2022 by Haiduk 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinkin Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) Send those guys a crate of Tomahawks ... no not the cruise missile ... these bad guys: Edited October 15, 2022 by kevinkin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letter from Prague Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Flood with weapons? What weapons? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danfrodo Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 17 minutes ago, Letter from Prague said: Flood with weapons? What weapons? I want this kind of job. Just say toxic macho horsecrap and get paid for it. I could do this all day and hardly take a breath, it's utterly brainless. How does one get one of these lucrative yet totally cushy gigs? I need to learn russian, then go on RU TV as USA insider giving the scoop on how to defeat evil US. oh, wait, they'd pay me in rubles. Nevermind. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Apparently there is more speculation that Ukraine is using Neptune cruise missiles to strike ground targets. Most recently the Belgorod power plant and possibly also oil refinery (or storage, not clear which): One of the sources speculating on this a little over a year ago: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/fact-check-does-ukraine-really-have-1000km-range-cruise-missile-191276 We've talked about this possibility in the past. An unmodified Neptune couldn't effectively used against ground targets, but with the right guidance system it is possible. Certainly the US military is in the process of adopting a universal missile platform (developed by the US Navy) so the theory, at least, is sound. Thoughts? Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisl Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 7 hours ago, Haiduk said: Subs at the start of video say "combat pigeon" ) Just a coincidence of strike and pigeon flight = mockery video ) I don't think pigeons are really big enough for a proper HEAT round. A Canadian goose seems more likely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Haiduk said: There are rumors that shooters were natives of Tajikistan, having Russian citizenship - many tajiks came to Russia, they have dirty job in Moscow and some other large Russian cities like unqualified workers on buildings and garbagers. But they could receive Russian citizenship. Russians mostly treat them with contempt, calling "churki", so likely the shooting is a consequence of ethnic conflict. Reportedly there were three shooters - two were killed in skirmish, one escaped. Reportedly 22 KIA, 16 WIA, but uncondirmed yet. interesting considering the recent dressing down of Putin by the president of Tajikistan. Putin Confronted by Frustrated Tajik President Demanding Respect: Video (msn.com) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisl Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 5 hours ago, dan/california said: That is the video you want the starving conscripts on the other side to see. You want them to smell it. Where's the T-72 chassis with big fans mounted on top to waft the odor of hot cooking over to the Russian lines? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 7 hours ago, The_MonkeyKing said: Unknown top attack drone thing once again in action: Trim.mp4 1.46 MB · 0 downloads source: https://twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/status/1581268787420364802 EDIT: wrong to call it a drone. Don't know what it is EDIT2: just a bird This is pretty interesting. It looks to be a fast moving fixed wing drone with a very short range rocket that is (probably) designed to fire at a fixed angle. A targeting algorithm would be pretty easy to develop that could fairly accurately determine when to fire the missile based on current speed and altitude of the drone. I've not heard of something like this being used in Ukraine yet, so if anybody can point me to a probable system (presuming it isn't evolving Ukrainian homegrown system) that would be helpful. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamEndedAllen Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 https://www.reuters.com/technology/musk-will-keep-funding-ukraine-even-though-starlink-is-losing-money-2022-10-15/Musk tweeted: "the hell with it … even though starlink is still losing money & other companies are getting billions of taxpayer $, we'll just keep funding ukraine govt for free". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVulture Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, NamEndedAllen said: https://www.reuters.com/technology/musk-will-keep-funding-ukraine-even-though-starlink-is-losing-money-2022-10-15/Musk tweeted: "the hell with it … even though starlink is still losing money & other companies are getting billions of taxpayer $, we'll just keep funding ukraine govt for free". According to the SpaceX figures shared with the Pentagon, about 85% of the 20,000 terminals in Ukraine were paid – or partially paid – for by countries like the US and Poland or other entities. Those entities also paid for about 30% of the internet connectivity, which SpaceX says costs $4,500 each month per unit for the most advanced service. (Over the weekend, Musk tweeted there are around 25,000 terminals in Ukraine.) — CNN, October/14/2022. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/13/politics/elon-musk-spacex-starlink-ukraine/#paragraph-4de74b4a-e6fa-5ddd-937e-d10fb1ae88bd I don't think starlink is losing money because of what it is providing to Ukraine - that mostly seems to be paid for. I suspect its more that Starlink's business model is losing money, because satellites are expensive and they haven't got enough uptake to cover the initial costs incurred. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSarge Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Trouble in the ranks. Quote (Reuters) -Gunmen shot dead 11 people at a Russian military training ground on Saturday, the defence ministry said, in the latest blow to President Vladimir Putin's forces since the invasion of Ukraine. RIA news agency cited the ministry as saying 15 other people were wounded in the shooting on Saturday in the southwestern Belgorod region that borders Ukraine when two men gunned down a group who had volunteered to take part in the war. It said the two assailants - nationals from an unspecified former Soviet republic - had been shot dead. https://news.yahoo.com/gunmen-kill-11-russian-military-213218841.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NamEndedAllen Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, TheVulture said: According to the SpaceX figures shared with the Pentagon, about 85% of the 20,000 terminals in Ukraine were paid – or partially paid – for by countries like the US and Poland or other entities. Those entities also paid for about 30% of the internet connectivity, which SpaceX says costs $4,500 each month per unit for the most advanced service. (Over the weekend, Musk tweeted there are around 25,000 terminals in Ukraine.) — CNN, October/14/2022. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/13/politics/elon-musk-spacex-starlink-ukraine/#paragraph-4de74b4a-e6fa-5ddd-937e-d10fb1ae88bd I don't think starlink is losing money because of what it is providing to Ukraine - that mostly seems to be paid for. I suspect its more that Starlink's business model is losing money, because satellites are expensive and they haven't got enough uptake to cover the initial costs incurred. Musk has consistently failed to mention these figures -EIGHTY-FIVE PERCENT - that USA and others have been subsidizing “his” costs. As posted a few pages back. He is among the least trustworthy communicators but has a very loud voice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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