ncc1701e Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 @BFCElvis I am playing around AI since a lot of time now and I would like to design something cool in terms of AI responsiveness. I think few changes in the AI interface may change and ease a lot AI design and level up the AI of my scenario. So, here are few requests for you to implement. Few of them are not new. First one: Increase the number of AI groups Dividing units into small AI groups is the key to make good AI behavior. So I am requesting to pass the maximum number of AI groups from 16 to 32. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncc1701e Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 Second one: Revamp the Terrain Objectives interface I am requesting to pass the maximum number of Terrain objectives from 15 to 32. The first button is indeed combining two functions (one for usual objective, one for trigger). Thus you have to use two triggers if, for example, the occupation of one terrain objective is also a trigger to go to another objective. I would request to change the interface as follow (see carefully the following screenshot) : 1. I am splitting the first button in two. First button still serves to say Occupy, Preserve, Destroy, Touch, Exit 3. A new button, the third one, is a choice between A.I. Trigger (friendly), A.I. Trigger (friendly armor), A.I. Trigger (enemy), A.I. Trigger (enemy armor) This allows much more flexibility and avoids to use two objectives for the same above example. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncc1701e Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) Third one: Enhance the Unit Objectives interface I am requesting to pass the maximum number of Unit objectives from 7 to 16. And same than for the Terrain Objectives interface (see carefully the following screenshot), I am adding a third button that is a trigger possibility on an Unit objective. This third button contains the same choice between A.I. Trigger (friendly), A.I. Trigger (friendly armor), A.I. Trigger (enemy), A.I. Trigger (enemy armor) With the first button untouched, I can design that if an enemy unit is spotted, I can trigger something else. An air attack for example... see next post. Edited November 14, 2020 by ncc1701e 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncc1701e Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 Fourth one: Revamp the Support Targets interface Today the Support Targets interface are pretty useless since it can only act at the beginning of a scenario for indirect fires. It contains only two button: 1. The target to hit 2. The type of mission (Destroy, Damage, Suppress, Smoke) I am requesting to add few additional buttons in the interface (see carefully the following screenshot 1. The AI group that will perform the attack. We can then select off map artillery units and/or air units to perform a dedicated mission (if they are in the AI group of course) 2. The possibility to delay an attack by Exit between ...and OR better to select a trigger to wait for before calling the attack And, a small note, if in the same AI group, I am selecting a FO team plus some off map units (artillery or air units), I am expecting the AI to move the FO team in a good spotting position. Here it is for my list, I do not think I am asking for the moon in term of changes in the interface. And, I really think these small changes can really beef up the AI of my scenario but not only. Thanks @BFCElvis for your consideration. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFCElvis Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 These are all interesting changes. Some of the scenario makers in the crowd might want to chime in about it. That said, it very unlikely that any kind of changes that you are suggesting will make it into the game anytime soon (even if HQ thinks they are worth adding). They are the kind of thing that would be in an engine Upgrade, not in a patch. A 5.0 Upgrade is not even in the works yet.....For that matter, if there is ever going to be a 5.0 Upgrade has not been decided yet. I know it's not what you want to hear. And it doesn't mean that these ideas don't make it into the next incarnation of Combat Mission. (P.S. Did I ever tell you that I love your user name? I've been thinking about getting a vanity license plate for my car with some variation of it) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 That is indeed disapointing ... No editor improvements at all to be expected then...In the next few years i guess... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarendJanNL Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, BFCElvis said: For that matter, if there is ever going to be a 5.0 Upgrade has not been decided yet. I know it's not what you want to hear. And it doesn't mean that these ideas don't make it into the next incarnation of Combat Mission. Does the fact that maybe there will not be an 5.0 upgrade mean that the next incarnation of CM (CMx3) is being worked on? Edited November 16, 2020 by BarendJanNL English language 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Hopefully, BF can now do CM3 with all the cash they should be getting from govt contracting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFCElvis Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 hours ago, BarendJanNL said: Does the fact that maybe there will not be an 5.0 upgrade mean that the next incarnation of CM (CMx3) is being worked on? The Eagles are in 1st place still! I'm hoping they win the division with a 5-11-1 record. Go Birds! Could there be a 5.0 Upgrade? I don't have an official answer than there is not one currently being developed....but no one has ever told me that there never will be one. Unofficially, if I were a betting man (which I am), I would bet that there won't be one. But that is complete speculation on my part. There are enough balls in the air right now without adding that one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 48 minutes ago, BFCElvis said: The Eagles are in 1st place still! I'm hoping they win the division with a 5-11-1 record. Go Birds! X-mas bone thread contender #1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFCElvis Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 minute ago, rocketman said: X-mas bone thread contender #1 Maybe. And I probably just spoke out of school. Although I seem to remember Steve mentioning it as some point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xorg_Xalargsky Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Gotta say, I certainly don't remember him mentioning that, at least in public If you get a slap on the wrist, let it be known that you were a martyr for a good cause. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 49 minutes ago, BFCElvis said: The Eagles are in 1st place still! I'm hoping they win the division with a 5-11-1 record. Go Birds! That is very good news. I can't recall any statement to that effect b4. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFCElvis Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Erwin said: That is very good news. I can't recall any statement to that effect b4. Fixed it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 That's fake news!!! Or censorship... or something... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFCElvis Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Erwin said: That's fake news!!! Or censorship... or something... Sorry....It is censorship. But it isn't fake news....The Eagles are in 1st place with a 3-5-1 record. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufo Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 14 hours ago, RepsolCBR said: No editor improvements at all to be expected then...In the next few years i guess... A patch takes them years, not an engine upgrade. Expecting around 10 years of waiting is more realistic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarendJanNL Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 I know about F&R, upcoming CMFB and CMBS modules and the government contract, but it would be good to get an up-to-date overview of what is currently being worked on and what Battlefront is planning on for future releases or even an CMx3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glubokii Boy Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Bufo said: A patch takes them years, not an engine upgrade. Expecting around 10 years of waiting is more realistic. They may suprise us 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BletchleyGeek Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 16 hours ago, BFCElvis said: For that matter, if there is ever going to be a 5.0 Upgrade has not been decided yet. I know it's not what you want to hear. And it doesn't mean that these ideas don't make it into the next incarnation of Combat Mission. Hmm, interesting to read that "has not been decided yet". Limiting work on CMx2 to bug fixing and releasing modules would make sense, nearly 10 years after Battle for Normandy being released. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethaface Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 14 hours ago, BFCElvis said: Maybe. And I probably just spoke out of school. Although I seem to remember Steve mentioning it as some point. Although I only read censored version, I think that Steve did hint at that the 'Eagle' will land at one point in the future. Didn't know it was already spreading its wings, but have distilled this somewhat speculative conclusion from the censored info. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexUK Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 15 hours ago, BFCElvis said: Maybe. And I probably just spoke out of school. Although I seem to remember Steve mentioning it as some point. I would be first in line.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncc1701e Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share Posted January 9, 2021 On 11/16/2020 at 7:03 PM, BFCElvis said: These are all interesting changes. Some of the scenario makers in the crowd might want to chime in about it. That said, it very unlikely that any kind of changes that you are suggesting will make it into the game anytime soon (even if HQ thinks they are worth adding). They are the kind of thing that would be in an engine Upgrade, not in a patch. A 5.0 Upgrade is not even in the works yet.....For that matter, if there is ever going to be a 5.0 Upgrade has not been decided yet. I know it's not what you want to hear. And it doesn't mean that these ideas don't make it into the next incarnation of Combat Mission. (P.S. Did I ever tell you that I love your user name? I've been thinking about getting a vanity license plate for my car with some variation of it) Happy New Year 2021 to the Battlefront team and to you @BFCElvis! With the recent announcement of the 5.0 Engine Upgrade, I really hope all of the above requests could be added to your wishlist for the next engine. Thanks a lot P.S: Is your car the right size for a license plate like this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFCElvis Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, ncc1701e said: Happy New Year 2021 to the Battlefront team and to you @BFCElvis! With the recent announcement of the 5.0 Engine Upgrade, I really hope all of the above requests could be added to your wishlist for the next engine. Thanks a lot P.S: Is your car the right size for a license plate like this? Since NCC1701 and NC1701D are long gone I am considering things like NCC I7OI or some kind of variation of that. Or NCC 1031 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benpark Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 7 hours ago, ncc1701e said: I really hope all of the above requests could be added to your wishlist for the next engine. Good thinking. Many of these are already suggestions that are previously logged as things that would be helpful, and make the single-player experience as "human" as possible- I'll add anything we may have missed to the list, as AI stuff is very (very) high on my own hopes for adds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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