mjkerner Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Don't know the occasion, but these are my thoughts exactly, having been an Anglophile for about 60 years! Same thoughts I have about our folks, too, btw! Worth sharing, IMHO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacillator Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 It is an amazing speech from Kevin. Seems it was recorded back in 2014 while he was filming in England but has come to attention every now and again since. I'm still unsure of the 'why' behind the speech, but good for him. Long may the special relationship continue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artkin Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) This guy is a nobody. Sounds like a straight up politician. That speech had 0 value Edited August 28, 2020 by Artkin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 A bit depressing. Isn't there anyone in the UK able and willing to do a supportive video? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 11 hours ago, Vacilllator said: Long may the special relationship continue. I think the "special relationship" ended in September '45. But, I think that that is outside of the remit of a war gaming forum. I'm off for a pint with my old mucker Clem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmoney Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 10 hours ago, Artkin said: This guy is a nobody. Sounds like a straight up politician. That speech had 0 value Haha pretty interesting take on a non offensive speech. Lol. I am curious though why the hostility? I for one am a veteran, but am not one for mushy speeches but to get bent out of shape about it (unless you are standing in formation while someone drones on about blah blah blah) I just don’t get. I personally feel that the US and the U.K. are the closest of allies and very similar culturally. I know lots of Brits and it’s never awkward talking to them due to cultural reasons. Only their goofy accents lol. Kidding, I’m just having a laugh (see that was for my British friends). I think everyone loves the British accent that’s why Brits narrate every documentary on earth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artkin Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 He's just a nobody. That speech was devoid of value. Guy's straight up trying to earn himself brownie points. I'm not offended or anything but it should be known he is jst another hollywood clown 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerner Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 It’s the sentiment, not who said it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 As for the "Commonwealth" that came to an end in 1660, when that idiot son of mine tumbled down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarletto Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 After serving 15 years in what he is going on about, it made me laugh, he could have joined instead of going on to make millions, i would have. 90% of my time was mind numbing boredom, 9% mildly interesting and 1% down right scary, and not once did Scarlett Johansson turn up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IICptMillerII Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 18 hours ago, mjkerner said: It’s the sentiment, not who said it. No good deed goes unpunished. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerner Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 Funny CptMiller, I was just thinking “ No good sentiment goes unpunished!” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 4 hours ago, mjkerner said: Funny CptMiller, I was just thinking “ No good sentiment goes unpunished!” Just a cultural difference between nations, I wouldn't take offence. You meant well. I spent time being educated at an American High school and while I had a great time it was a real eye opener on how different the American patriotism level is compared to the UK. For example standing up every morning being "brainwashed"(btw me being cheeky) going ra ra for the flag was very alien was just part of how kids are indoctrinated. I can see the reasons for it as America has to meld different folks into citizens. The love from America towards the UK is not really reciprocated and our desire for recognition is very different to the American approach. The UK military is deeply grounded and having an American actor say how great they are will be deemed a be a bit annoying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Holien said: how different the American patriotism level is compared to the UK. For example standing up every morning being "brainwashed"(btw me being cheeky) going ra ra for the flag was very alien was just part of how kids are indoctrinated. I can see the reasons for it as America has to meld different folks into citizens. I think this may be an age thing and shows how things have changed in the uk over the past 60 years. When I was a school in the UK it was very patriotic and we proudly called it Great Britain. Probably the change occurs when more and more people do not share the original values of the country that they now live in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicky Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) In the 80s at my my secondary comprehensive it wasn't overly patriotic - sung hymns at assembly and had readings i.e Scott of the Antarctic. At air cadets a bit more respectful for the order of things - as needed to understand what a salute represented in the chain of things andr orders and obeying them. All against a background of The Goodies and OTT Tim Broook-Taylor - early antidote to rise of contemorory popular nationalism. i.e Farage. So personally patriotic as weak tea, and from a sampling of Facebook friends it seems flag waving nationlism is mainly confined to folk who have served or have family that have served, next stage down and quite popular is stability from Queen and royal family as Queenies been around for living memory despite the shenanigans around her. Schools nowadays have on syllabus 'British values' taught quite liberally. Still not quite the same as mindless flag worship. Edited August 30, 2020 by Wicky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Erwin said: I think this may be an age thing and shows how things have changed in the uk over the past 60 years. When I was a school in the UK it was very patriotic and we proudly called it Great Britain. Probably the change occurs when more and more people do not share the original values of the country that they now live in. In the "uk". When you were "a school". Ah, that sums up life in Murdoch's Dictatorship of the Semi-Literate. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) Well, this was back in the 60's when (as a child of refugee/immigrants) I won a scholarship to a pretty fine school. Otherwise I'd be working in a uk factory. I return frequently to London, but find it quite depressing. Like most of Europe, it's all a bit 2nd world-like nowadays. I spent some time in Argentina, and it's hard to tell the difference between Buenos Aires and European cities. Anyhow - totally OT. Edited August 31, 2020 by Erwin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Erwin said: Well, this was back in the 60's when (as a child of refugee/immigrants) I won a scholarship to a pretty fine school. Otherwise I'd be working in a uk factory. I return frequently to London, but find it quite depressing. Like most of Europe, it's all a bit 2nd world-like nowadays. I spent some time in Argentina, and it's hard to tell the difference between Buenos Aires and European cities. Anyhow - totally OT. Anyone who actually had to "win" a scholarship deserves respect. About the only thing I ever won in the '60's was "Pass the parcel". Edited August 31, 2020 by Warts 'n' all 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock Tamson Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) On 8/31/2020 at 4:50 PM, Erwin said: Well, this was back in the 60's when (as a child of refugee/immigrants) I won a scholarship to a pretty fine school. Otherwise I'd be working in a uk factory. I return frequently to London, but find it quite depressing. Like most of Europe, it's all a bit 2nd world-like nowadays. I spent some time in Argentina, and it's hard to tell the difference between Buenos Aires and European cities. Anyhow - totally OT. London is not particularly representative of the rest of the UK. Many of the smaller cities offer a quality of life that Londoners can only dream about. Example: Edinburgh Edited September 1, 2020 by Jock Tamson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarletto Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I'm not sure you could say London represented anything, it is probably the most awful City i have visited in the World, yet it still attracts people like moths. No idea why, once outside the tourist spots it is just a the Have or Have not place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danfrodo Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 UK seems like a terrible place to me. It's like The Purge with all the murders! Even the little college town of Oxford has huge murder rate. I know this because I've been watching a documentary series on it called "Endeavor". Oh, not to mention all the killings in Hastings area in another totally true not made up series called "Foyle's War". Sounds dreadfully dangerous. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warts 'n' all Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 hours ago, danfrodo said: UK seems like a terrible place to me. It's like The Purge with all the murders! Even the little college town of Oxford has huge murder rate. I know this because I've been watching a documentary series on it called "Endeavor". Oh, not to mention all the killings in Hastings area in another totally true not made up series called "Foyle's War". Sounds dreadfully dangerous. I don't wish to quibble, but "Endeavour" cannot be taken seriously, they called Double Diamond a lager in one episode. Pass the sick bag, Elizabeth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 5 hours ago, Jock Tamson said: London is not particularly representative of the rest of the UK. Many of the smaller cities offer a quality of life that Londoners can only dream about. Example: Edinburgh Been to Edinburgh for a Fringe Festival and yes, very much enjoyed that lovely city. Weather was good! Shame about the weather the rest of the time. Visited friends in Norfolk as well and found that life outside London esp rural areas is much nicer, and people are nicer as well. (Same in US: city vs rural.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, danfrodo said: UK seems like a terrible place to me. It's like The Purge with all the murders! Even the little college town of Oxford has huge murder rate. I know this because I've been watching a documentary series on it called "Endeavor". Oh, not to mention all the killings in Hastings area in another totally true not made up series called "Foyle's War". Sounds dreadfully dangerous. I strongly recommend you never go to Sandford, in Cheshire. It's attractive enough, in a cliché olde worlde way, but the crime level there is simply appalling. Edited September 2, 2020 by JonS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BletchleyGeek Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 3 hours ago, JonS said: I strongly recommend you never go to Sandford, in Cheshire. It's attractive enough, in a cliché olde worlde way, but the crime level there is simply appalling. Nightlife there looks really rough (see below at the 11:15 mark). Glasgow has a completely undeserved reputation, compared with this place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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