danfrodo

that was a fender amp??  I'll be darned.  I thought sure it was a Vox.  My Vox sounds just like it I thought.  I have an AC15 (modern) and guitar w P90s instead of humbuckers but sure sounds similar. 
Of course, this being a F&R thread, back to business.  Please oh please oh please let this ready for the rainy season (starts in earnest usually mid to late October).  Western Oregon can go weeks of endless cloudy/overcast and wet every day.

My quite unqualified take on the infantry vs tanks question is that every tanker memoir I've read seems to indicate tankers were generally very wary of going anywhere near infantry, at least in the 1943-45 period.  And the rear engine areas could be damaged by grenades, causing power losses, fires.

I would hope that there is something akin to the TC that ASL used, since any reading of memoires makes it clear how infantry were far more shy of dealing with tanks than vice-versa. Hell, people were given medals for taking out tanks single-handed or in close quarters, so that shows the value placed on such actions in real life. To danfrodo's point, true, some AFV's were vulnerable in the rear, but it still, generally took a well placed grenade to affect such areas, and from mid '43 onwards, the introduction of shape-charged weapons such as PF and bazookas, certainly made tankers, sensibly wary of keeping their distance. Regardless, I think John1966 makes a good point about the psychological effect any lumbering hulk of metal is going to have on exposed and unprotected personnel nearby. Well, I'm still waiting for my download link, but hopefully it'll show up soon and I can meet some of y'all on the field  .

Am sure there was a time when they were shy about close assaulting tanks and many complaints were made so now BF changed the routine so that they will do that. 
Us old-timers who have been playing versions of CM for 20(!!) years have experienced so many upgraded and patches that it's hard to remember (and forget) the obsolete info and to relearn the game every few years.  Eg:  From the very beginning of CM, HUNT meant that if an enemy shot at the unit within its arc, it would stop.  Now I hear from other threads that after recent patches/upgrades the unit will keep moving.  Sheesh...
I actually envy newcomers to the game as you guys are getting a much more complete and polished version and only have to learn the latest version.
 

I'm had 20 years of enjoyment from playing the various Combat Mission games, having bought every title and module except 'Afghanistan'.
There's a lot to learn, in terms of gameplay, tactics, unit capabilities, and so on - it's endless. Mistakes are messy.
That's why it remains such fun.
When you want something different - there's a whole world of map, scenario and campaign design (I love making and playing my own QB maps).
It's an amazing game - the frustration is part of the challenge. Just buy it

I bought CMBN first ~5 years ago.  And still haven't played all of it, there's just so much if you get the big bundle.  Part of that is that I now have all the games except Afghanistan, so bounce between them.  You have hundreds of hours of epic battles -- jump in.  Learning curve just takes a little time; watch gameplay & tips videos from youtube, you'll be a pro very quickly.  And you'll still lose battles sometimes, that's what makes these games such an enduring challenge.

Considerably less than I got in my last game.
I don't wish to talk about it.

Thanks everyone.
Please don't fall prey to the "simple solution" bull****, like it's all some easy fix -- that's just propaganda so that folks don't have to face the really difficult reality.  Like the lies told last year ("they won't release water from the resorvoirs" - lie; "they sent all the water to the ocean"-- lie).  Classic blame the victims stuff.
 Western US had a dry & hot summer following a relatively dry winter.  And recently had very hot w abnormally low humidity, so perfect for fires.  Once fires got going we had many days of crazy strong east winds, driving the fire  -- we almost never get east winds this time of year, especially ones that strong.  Plus lots of lightning.  This is not due to negligence or some lack of effort, it's a natural disaster that came from a perfect storm of conditions.  CA already has a plan w forest service to clear dead wood out of 1 million acres a year (hundred of millions of dollars per year) -- except that there's 20 million acres to clear, at least -- so many years and many BILLIONS of dollars (and that's just CA).  100 years of fire suppression, plus millions of dead trees (much of this due to warmer climate that has caused bug infestations), plus ridiculous weather, and we get catastrophic fires.  We always have summer fires, we don't always have this kind of catastrophe.
Commanderski:  orange skies in NH?  welcome to the club!  that is crazy you have smoke ~2000+ miles away.
And combat mission is indeed the only bright spot these days -- oh, that and football.

Thanks everyone.
Please don't fall prey to the "simple solution" bull****, like it's all some easy fix -- that's just propaganda so that folks don't have to face the really difficult reality.  Like the lies told last year ("they won't release water from the resorvoirs" - lie; "they sent all the water to the ocean"-- lie).  Classic blame the victims stuff.
 Western US had a dry & hot summer following a relatively dry winter.  And recently had very hot w abnormally low humidity, so perfect for fires.  Once fires got going we had many days of crazy strong east winds, driving the fire  -- we almost never get east winds this time of year, especially ones that strong.  Plus lots of lightning.  This is not due to negligence or some lack of effort, it's a natural disaster that came from a perfect storm of conditions.  CA already has a plan w forest service to clear dead wood out of 1 million acres a year (hundred of millions of dollars per year) -- except that there's 20 million acres to clear, at least -- so many years and many BILLIONS of dollars (and that's just CA).  100 years of fire suppression, plus millions of dead trees (much of this due to warmer climate that has caused bug infestations), plus ridiculous weather, and we get catastrophic fires.  We always have summer fires, we don't always have this kind of catastrophe.
Commanderski:  orange skies in NH?  welcome to the club!  that is crazy you have smoke ~2000+ miles away.
And combat mission is indeed the only bright spot these days -- oh, that and football.

Thanks everyone.
Please don't fall prey to the "simple solution" bull****, like it's all some easy fix -- that's just propaganda so that folks don't have to face the really difficult reality.  Like the lies told last year ("they won't release water from the resorvoirs" - lie; "they sent all the water to the ocean"-- lie).  Classic blame the victims stuff.
 Western US had a dry & hot summer following a relatively dry winter.  And recently had very hot w abnormally low humidity, so perfect for fires.  Once fires got going we had many days of crazy strong east winds, driving the fire  -- we almost never get east winds this time of year, especially ones that strong.  Plus lots of lightning.  This is not due to negligence or some lack of effort, it's a natural disaster that came from a perfect storm of conditions.  CA already has a plan w forest service to clear dead wood out of 1 million acres a year (hundred of millions of dollars per year) -- except that there's 20 million acres to clear, at least -- so many years and many BILLIONS of dollars (and that's just CA).  100 years of fire suppression, plus millions of dead trees (much of this due to warmer climate that has caused bug infestations), plus ridiculous weather, and we get catastrophic fires.  We always have summer fires, we don't always have this kind of catastrophe.
Commanderski:  orange skies in NH?  welcome to the club!  that is crazy you have smoke ~2000+ miles away.
And combat mission is indeed the only bright spot these days -- oh, that and football.

Thanks everyone.
Please don't fall prey to the "simple solution" bull****, like it's all some easy fix -- that's just propaganda so that folks don't have to face the really difficult reality.  Like the lies told last year ("they won't release water from the resorvoirs" - lie; "they sent all the water to the ocean"-- lie).  Classic blame the victims stuff.
 Western US had a dry & hot summer following a relatively dry winter.  And recently had very hot w abnormally low humidity, so perfect for fires.  Once fires got going we had many days of crazy strong east winds, driving the fire  -- we almost never get east winds this time of year, especially ones that strong.  Plus lots of lightning.  This is not due to negligence or some lack of effort, it's a natural disaster that came from a perfect storm of conditions.  CA already has a plan w forest service to clear dead wood out of 1 million acres a year (hundred of millions of dollars per year) -- except that there's 20 million acres to clear, at least -- so many years and many BILLIONS of dollars (and that's just CA).  100 years of fire suppression, plus millions of dead trees (much of this due to warmer climate that has caused bug infestations), plus ridiculous weather, and we get catastrophic fires.  We always have summer fires, we don't always have this kind of catastrophe.
Commanderski:  orange skies in NH?  welcome to the club!  that is crazy you have smoke ~2000+ miles away.
And combat mission is indeed the only bright spot these days -- oh, that and football.

Guitar riff in Rebel Rebel: coolest thing ever.  How come sh*thead musicians seem to live forever and all the good ones die early.  Pat Boone is still alive. 
I wonder if BFC will have Steam RT release going before F&R release?  that would be cool for the Steam folks. 

Very sad.  I remember buying his scenario sets (nowadays called DLCs) for games like Wargame Construction Set: TANKS! by Norm Koger.  this was ~100 years ago it seems now.

Very sad.  I remember buying his scenario sets (nowadays called DLCs) for games like Wargame Construction Set: TANKS! by Norm Koger.  this was ~100 years ago it seems now.

UK seems like a terrible place to me.  It's like The Purge with all the murders!  Even the little college town of Oxford has huge murder rate.  I know this because I've been watching a documentary series on it called "Endeavor".  Oh, not to mention all the killings in Hastings area in another totally true not made up series called "Foyle's War".  Sounds dreadfully dangerous.

UK seems like a terrible place to me.  It's like The Purge with all the murders!  Even the little college town of Oxford has huge murder rate.  I know this because I've been watching a documentary series on it called "Endeavor".  Oh, not to mention all the killings in Hastings area in another totally true not made up series called "Foyle's War".  Sounds dreadfully dangerous.

UK seems like a terrible place to me.  It's like The Purge with all the murders!  Even the little college town of Oxford has huge murder rate.  I know this because I've been watching a documentary series on it called "Endeavor".  Oh, not to mention all the killings in Hastings area in another totally true not made up series called "Foyle's War".  Sounds dreadfully dangerous.

In the "uk". When you were "a school". Ah, that sums up life in Murdoch's Dictatorship of the Semi-Literate.

I also love it, but not everybody does.
It's like watching a Scandinavian crime series.

British taxpayer dollars being used wisely IMO.  And best of all British taxpayer dollars being used to make BF more viable and able to make more stuff for us so we can play w our little toy soldiers and tanks.  Win win.  Modern Brits vs Russia does sound rather fun....

Paddy raise his eyes. "Feck off! The Field Marshall's family were from County Donegal, and I'm a Meathman, brits me arse." 

No 'like' button for this.  So 'LIKE'.

read the briefing, it's your intel report take you time looking at map, especially from ground level, moving along a path you are considering for your advance Then read the briefing again

Oh, my two best friends are getting married.  Congrats!  All I ever really play are CM (~90% of gaming time) and field of glory empires from Slitherine so I like and trust both companies.  I hope for greatly increased sales and community!

now, that is funny 😃
I love playing as the brits though I don't know why.  All that goofy gear, goofy tanks