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  1. The Steppenwulf

    BFC - Time to Rethink the 'Roadmap'?

    I think this would only affect one modular component of the engine code. You've still got all the calculation tables (movement and ballistics) and under the hood coding for all other aspects of the game that could be transposed into a new game engine - theoretically. I wouldn't say though this is where the bulk of the work is anyhow, it's designing and creating a new game environment and developing a tool kit to build the environment. Then you've got to amend all the game interactions to tie into the changes made to the new game environment. The most complex coding changes I would think would be developing new collision data - assuming CM3 would be a fully destructible environment, not merely decals. That means changes to model data, and overhaul of all the animations (I question of BFC have anyone that even touches the animations because they really are dated), well the list goes on....
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    News and Music Mod (plus splash screen)

    Great mod you made for Black Sea Music Blimey. I wondered if you have something planned for SF2? For that matter; I've never heard your offering for Shock Force as mentioned in the thread. Would it be possible to upload and offer a link?
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    They meant september of next year!

    Thank you Steve for taking the time to respond to all the points. It is appreciated!
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    They meant september of next year!

    Where does Steve state that customers can get a refund? Moreover where does it state in Bf's sales policy that customers are entitled to a refund? Yes I think we've gone over this earlier in the thread and that is why I am arduously making the point that there are deficiencies in the way this whole matter has been handled. It's simply a crap way to do business. Here's how BF can put that right in future: i) sort out the payment system so there is capability for 'delayed capture' ...or ii) amend the sales policy to reflect capacity for refund during the preorder period An acknowledgement of this would cover all the points.
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    They meant september of next year!

    If you were to state that it won't be ready until 2019, that makes a big diff in practical terms about how many people will cancel their order. Stating that the game is days rather than months away might yield a different response. Either way the present position is that you are holding customer's money for an indefinite period of time! Do you not feel as a company that there is some responsibility that comes with taking money from customers as prepayment? Especially that is, when you had initially provided an indication of the release window, which has now been exceeded?
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    They meant september of next year!

    1) There is no problem with not committing to a release window... so why did you offer one? You made a rod for your own back by doing so - don't blame customers for not being 'rational' as a result. 2) Opening up for preorders, when the customer is not actually charged until the game is released (as many companies do) is a perfectly acceptable practice. However currently you have customers money in your back account with no update about receipt of the goods ..... and you do not recognise that this is a problem? This is not 'irrational' on the part of the customer to be slightly irked about your lack of consideration regarding this issue!
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    They meant september of next year!

    The trollers are those who cannot assimilate basic facts and knowledge but persist in failed arguments. Or else they offer snide comments because they realise they have no effective counter arguments. You have demonstrated that you fall perfectly into both these categories
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    They meant september of next year!

    Exactly! Prepayments are generally used to generate income for a business in advance of shipping. This allows the company to meet overheads, such as staff wages and prevent a cash flow problem arising. BF are not offering prepayment discount as a kind gesture - it benefits the company in its development of the product. How naive to think otherwise! "Suing" BF- doh!! What contract law is effectively supporting is a buyers right to seek a refund from a seller if delivery of the goods within a reasonable period fails. I never thought I'd ever feel this way with BF, but I am very close myself to requesting refund on SF2, though not because of the delivery issue. It is in part because of BF's continuing failure to provide an update about the lapsed release window and being forced to check back in to find out what is going on, and having done so, I read yet more dismissive, intolerant and disrespectful responses (from the same defenders of BF) to the valid views and concerns expressed on this thread and elsewhere on the forum. Worse, it doesn't help that they repeatedly misunderstand or demonstrate a lack of listening skills and reasoned thinking when compiling their responses. And whether BF like it or not, these members are perceived as representing the position of BF and speak with authority about the company. If anything is badly needed going forward, it's that BF require a competent and strong communications person to represent them, and then those members that are so disastrously filling the vacuum presently, can take a well-deserved back seat!
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    They meant september of next year!

    The biggest difference being that MMP don't actually charge until the product is ready to ship. Please research the facts before using something (inaccurately) to make a point about how BF operate! I think I made it quite clear in my previous posts that when a company take your money they are entering into a legal contract to deliver the product and an approximate timescale for delivery forms a part of that bargain. This is why MMP do not take pre-order cash until ready to ship; there is no legally binding undertaking at that stage and the customer is free to cancel at any time. This is the reason why. Returning to your earlier post, this isn't about trolling Vet! I'm stating things to you as facts, I'm not inciting aggravated responses to my posts! I'm all in favour of BF not offering release windows, but when they do this they cannot also ask customers to effect transactions until a shipping window is indicated. The offers around SF2 is the difference against (all as far as I am aware) previous CM products on this occasion.
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    They meant september of next year!

    As stated your facts were incorrect; you drew reference to the DEMO with regard to the WINDOW, and BF statement was explicitly in reference to the GAME. That undermined your position entirely. If you cannot see that then it's impossible to reason with you. As previously stated over and over again (some people do seem to have grasped this) it isn't about a specific date, it's simply about good customer relations to provide an update when it becomes clear that the window is going to have to shift. If I hadn't paid approx £100 then maybe I wouldn't care, but if the window has moved to Christmas I have a right to know that this the case, request a refund and use the money on family xmas gifts instead. You seem to to jump from one wild assertion to another - all without any factual basis. Unless you've been following my reading and posting on these forums you know nothing about me! And if you had, you'd know that your assertions are wrong! Again this is blurring the truth to suit your assertions. In fact BF do give updates and they do offer windows for game release. I could trawl through the forums and offer you many, many examples of this. However, and to reiterate yet again, this issue is simply about communications. Nonetheless Steve, himself in May (again I've already posted a link to this in an earlier post in this very thread), apologised for not providing a more recent update. If you are right and BF think that updates are either not important, counter productive, or adverse to BF's business practice, then please explain why he provided a comprehensive update on; 1) SF2, 2) the situation with the patches, 3) Black Sea, 4) Red Thunder, and, 5) The new website. AND MOREOVER, he apologised for not having done this much sooner!
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    They meant september of next year!

    Your argument is weak because it is factually incorrect. The full game release window is end of Sept not the demo: https://www.battlefront.com/ Secondly if a customer has paid for something they have a right to know when to reasonably expect to receive the product. If BF can't make the window, that's fine (we understand) but update us with the revised window. E.g. is it weeks or months, or next summer? (EDIT: And we are not even onto the issue re overdue patch releases) Expecting the Developer to offer a simple update is not unreasonable when the customer has parted with cash for a product not yet received! But we are going over old ground already established in this thread.... The only reason this thread is continuing is because of weak retorts from those trying to defend BF, that then bring posters back to reiterate the same inescapable truths about this whole matter.
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    They meant september of next year!

    Paradoxical statement!! Either they did provide an indication or they didn't! Regardless, preorder implicitly requires some indication for release, otherwise it renders the concept of preorder totally meaningless. For arguments sake, if it were "leaked" that the game won't be released till next summer, how many here would opt to have their money back for now and we'll "preorder" again next Easter instead (or perhaps not at all)?!!?
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    They meant september of next year!

    Oh I agree, I thought I'd been quite clear (the sources posted), that it's simply the neglectful communications, to which I'm referring, and Steve himself seems to concur could be better!
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    They meant september of next year!

    Here: And further acknowledgement in the same thread: http://community.battlefront.com/topic/126834-a-long-delayed-update/ It seems that you are all out of step with your master!!
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    They meant september of next year!

    Thanks for refocusing this essential point! Spot on observation that every post that digresses from this only serves as a straw man for BF apologists to knock down and denigrate. They feed on this! Equally concerning is conflating kickstarter campaigns with preordered games when they are totally different things; there is likely little if no legal liability attached to kickstarter funded games, however preordered games are still a product that the customer anticipates, it's bound by contract law and if the dev fails to deliver the customer is entitled to a refund. I must state that I have enough confidence in BF to feel certain that this won't happen. And I'm more than willing to support these fantastic games with my hard earned cash present and future. But all this kind of talk wouldn't happen if BF just communicated at key times to let the community know what's going on. If the games not ready till xmas - fine, I'll drop by again then, or perhaps you can send me an email to let me know when the demo is out! Keeping the average customer happy should not be hard work, but this really is basic stuff. I hope that Steve recognises this when he surfaces and dissipates all frustrations with a simple apology (as he did in July). It's quickly accepted, but more importantly some recognition from him about this issue would vindicate our perspective, and moreover, perhaps then the 'apologists' might reflect a bit on their own ill-considered reactions which are misplaced, unkind, patronising and sometimes just verge on plain arrogance!
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