bump Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 I wouldn't consider my computer to be too good. I have an AMD Phenom 955, 4 gigs of ram, windows 7, and a nvidia geforce gtx 260. One thing that allows me to really get smooth FRAPS FPS is to use multiple hard-drives, no one hard-drive is writing the same data. I have a windows SSD, the game on another drive and fraps writing to another drive. Ohh OK, that could make a big difference I guess. I'm excited as it seems to run great for you and I have a better rig than that! Though I am not using multiple hard drives. You know I also wondered how big those videos must be raw recorded using FRAPS, they must be huge! It makes sense to me now that you would record them to a dedicated hard drive Thank you for the response, and thank you for the great game battlefront! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyJJ Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 ... as well as another surprise You're pregnant! Well hot damn, congratulations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoex Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Does anybody but me think the balance of the scenario is a bit off? I mean, tyrspawn is kind of playing a la-de-da style here as he states several times during the video (no offense, tyrspawn!) - he is giving RT-style orders, not noticing his reinforcements coming in, not worrying about casualties much, he leaves his halftracks and their firepower in the setup area basically, etc.... Yet except for the (badly timed) appearance of the M10's at the end, the battle is a complete walkover, it seems. My guess is it could have been more or less won with mortars and the howitzer alone if tyrspawn had just emptied them on the village and other suspected enemy positions. Don't know whether this is the final version of this scenario, but the way it was certainly seemed not to be very challenging to me. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarkWGriswold Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I agree about the scenario difficulty, but it IS a beta and the scenario may not have been finished, or it may be a "beginner" scenario designed to go easy on noobs. The two previous videos (three battles), seemed to be much more challenging, and one of them was even a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan8325 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Does anybody but me think the balance of the scenario is a bit off? I mean, tyrspawn is kind of playing a la-de-da style here as he states several times during the video (no offense, tyrspawn!) - he is giving RT-style orders, not noticing his reinforcements coming in, not worrying about casualties much, he leaves his halftracks and their firepower in the setup area basically, etc.... Yet except for the (badly timed) appearance of the M10's at the end, the battle is a complete walkover, it seems. My guess is it could have been more or less won with mortars and the howitzer alone if tyrspawn had just emptied them on the village and other suspected enemy positions. Don't know whether this is the final version of this scenario, but the way it was certainly seemed not to be very challenging to me. Thoughts? The infantry forces themselves seemed not too unevenly matched but until those very late M10s showed up, all the Americans had to do any damage to three Panthers was a few bazookas and one or two AT guns. Remove the Panthers and I call it evenly matched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user38 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 The scenario might have been a bit more evenly matched if the allied side had a Sherman. As General Patton said "A Sherman can give you a nice edge". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukkov Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 The scenario might have been a bit more evenly matched if the allied side had a Sherman. As General Patton said "A Sherman can give you a nice edge". i thought oddball said that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt. Ryan Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Patton was an oddball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadekster88 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 You want a challenge, play the American side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 ...he leaves his halftracks and their firepower in the setup area basically, etc.... That sounded like the best thing to do with them, especially with combat range that close! Tyrspawn did an excellent bit of generalship on the fly. One assumes the Germans were supposed to have rolled blythly into town and got their fannies kicked in the close-in house-to-house fighting. Instead he started the game by simply levelling the houses. Brutal but effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenris Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 This was the scenario we played at the Sydney preview. The Germans also won it that time with very little trouble so am thinking it's been designed that way. Bit of reversal of fortunes as far as which side usually has the greater resources in the Normandy setting. Very challenging for the US player. -F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hpt. Lisse Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 As so many others have noted, it' s great to be back. Quite excited to be tossed out by the missus, etc. When it comes to system specs - Is the new engine better served by a fast CPU (I seem to recall that multi-threading isn't in play) or by a heavy-duty video card? By this I mean, smooth video playback during WEGO battles. Any comments on whether comparable NVidia or ATI (sorry, AMD) GPU's seem to render the battlefield better? Or whether having 1 GB vs. 512 MB of video memory effects frame rates? In the past, it seems that ATI was significantly behind NVidia in their OpenGL performance... is this still the case? Just trying to get my kit sorted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user38 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 ATI has recently released the HD 6990 which, I understand, is stupidly fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user38 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Sorry, I just reread your post: In the past, it seems that ATI was significantly behind NVidia in their OpenGL performance... is this still the case? I have a Radeon 5770 card and have had no problems with it. I did some google research and I found the quote here: Emperus 07-17-2010 at 07:59:22 AM Historically, ATI cards have been weak performers when it comes to OpenGL.. However, the current generation of cards (starting from the HD4000 series) have remedied most of the issues.. Doom3, counter strike, call of duty series, commandos are few very popular OpenGL based game and each one of them performs flawlessly on my 4870. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatoichi Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 ATI has recently released the HD 6990 which, I understand, is stupidly fast. ...and stupidly loud too by all accounts! There are pros and cons for both NVIDIA and ATI/AMD for general gaming, and CMSF has certainly had issues with both during its 4 years (4 years already? Really?). Currently, as far as I'm aware, both are playing CMSF without issues right now, so I assume the same is true for CMBN. On an entirely personal note having had both sets of cards over these 4 years, I've preferred the way that CMSF looks when I'm running with NVIDIA. Graphics power wise, it depends a lot on what resolution you want to run the game in. There's not much point having 2 1Gb cards in SLi or CrossFire if your monitor tops out at 1280 * 1024. It seems tyrspawn is using an NVIDIA GTX 260 to play and create these great VAARs, and these cards are a couple of years old. As CMSF (and therefore I presume CMBN) do not currently use more than one core, the speed of your cpu is currently more important than the number of cores (dual, quad and whatever they call the AMD one with six!), so faster is generally better here (for this game at least). Quality over quantity and all that. CMSF is generally pretty cpu intensive as it's running a lot of calculations for LOS and LOF and tracking each projectile - I'd guess you would say CMSF benefits more from a speedier cpu than a beefy gpu. But a decent gpu will enable you to crank the model and terrain details nice a high, so it'll look more purdy! Oh, and don't forget a decent amount of system RAM too. Still, as I have yet to get CMBN in my hands, the above is all my assumptions based on my experience with CMSF. Your mileage may vary as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hpt. Lisse Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Apologies, I could have been more forthcoming in my post... I currently run 1920x1080 via HDMI from a ATI 5770 1 GB. My CPU is a PhenomII 965 BE - it runs stock at 3.4 GHz - but I could invest in a better heat sink and get 3.8 - 3.9 no trouble. Sounds like a good move for CM:BN. The rest is standard fare - Win 7 Pro, 4 gigs memory (had 8 but my accursed Asus mobo fried a pair), etc. It would be much cheaper for me to purchase a 2nd 5770 and run CM:BN in CrossFire (yes, mobo supports it) - do any of you CM:SF jockeys run SLI or X-fire? I have played around with the newest CM:SF demo, and it's pretty smooth, though they aren't huge maps... Congrats to BF for using OpenGL this time around - that DirectX-driver bullocks with CMx1 was annoying as hell (for you guys as well as the players.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatoichi Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Wow! I think you'll be just fine with that rig mate! Sorry, I assumed you were building from scratch. I've not had any experience with CMSF running in Xfire or SLI (currently running 1 GTX570, which is more than adequate with all the bells and whistles on), anyone care to chip in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger33 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I'm running Crossfire with HD 5770s, smooth sailing across the board in CMSF. Only slowdown comes from my CPU but I have an i7 in the mail so that won't be a problem much longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user38 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I have a ATI 5770. Shock Force runs fine on at 1080p with the details on high. I am not sure about the frame rate: it doesn't look like 60 Hz but I find it acceptable. I think the prudent thing to do is to wait until the game is released and see how it runs. However, from your posts (and given the force runs strong in my family) I predict three things. You are going to buy a second 5770 anyway, you won't be sorry you did and if you wait, you'll wish you had done it sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarzan Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Here's a short video of a Panther being pulled out of the garage near San Francisco - I had a laugh with all the complaints about the 'pimp-mobile suspension' we've been seeing in tyrspawn's VAARs. These guys surely aren't the best drivers in the world but seeing the Panther lurch around probably validates the CMBN modeling to some measure I'm thinking about doing the tour of this 'Military Vehicle Technology Foundation' facility in the next few weeks - I just came across it by accident. It's just outside SF http://www.mvtf.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hpt. Lisse Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Thanks for your feedback - good to hear, Ranger33, as I vaguely recall that CM:SF did not initially support SLI or X-fire configs. User38 - we'll see, young Jedi. At my age w/two small kids in the roost, there isn't much game time. CM:BN will be my only late-night distraction, so if X-fire wasn't supported, I wouldn't bother with a 2nd 5770 card... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Another excellent appetizer, thank Chris! While watching the vid, i noticed two instances where i didn't really understand the soundcontact questionmarks onscreen. This moment at aprox 30:33 (did someone in the platoon fart and now they are wondering who it was?): And then this one where Jerry suspects the Americans to tunnel underneath the road. Time stamp aprox 58:26. Can anyone elaborate on how the sound contact system works? I'm sure my men will be getting very paranoid if they capture an enemy, pass him, turn their heads and then wonder what that sound is 1 meter behind them... Those are poltergeist. It is the new surprise Tyrspawn referred to. Just because your pixeltruppen died, there is no reason they can't continue to have an impact in the game. In the TOE you will find a new unit, Papal Exorcism team. Didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition did ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I think i'm done making videos (it's a very time consuming process), the game is coming out soon, as well as another surprise Bummer, the next couple weeks are gonna drag slowly, but thanks again for all the effort. It is very highly appreciated. Great now you add a new surprise to our angst. Oh you cruel cruel man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExurbanKevin Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition did ya? NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquistion! (There, somebody had to say it...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrspawn Posted April 23, 2011 Author Share Posted April 23, 2011 Ohh OK, that could make a big difference I guess. I'm excited as it seems to run great for you and I have a better rig than that! Though I am not using multiple hard drives. You know I also wondered how big those videos must be raw recorded using FRAPS, they must be huge! It makes sense to me now that you would record them to a dedicated hard drive Thank you for the response, and thank you for the great game battlefront! The raw footage is usually around 300 gigs, the encoded vids are 4.5-6 gigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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