Yak Meister Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I'm currently reading Forgotten Soldier by Guy Sajer and on two occasions he makes reference to officers stepping out of steiners. Google was no great help. Does anyone know what type of vehicle he was referring to? Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cymru Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 The only one I know is a small electric utility vehicle, more like a golf cart 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincere Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Wasn't Steiner a Corporal on the Eastern front? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chops Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Steiner was a squad leader in Cross of Iron. Quite a movie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAFU Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Wasn't Steiner a Corporal on the Eastern front? Men like Steiner were Germany's last hope. And in that sense, he was a truly dangerous man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicky Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Brewery or beer garden? what's the context? As 'Steiner' could be for all we know a make of women's clothing .... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herr_oberst Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Steiner was a squad leader in Cross of Iron. Quite a movie. Phenomenal movie... lost count of times I've watched it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillLight Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 How do you step out of a corporal? Sounds painful (at least for the corporal)... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yak Meister Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 Must be a good movie since BT Junkie has 93 seeds. Quite exceptional for a movie that came out in 1977. Thanks for the recommendation , I'm sure it will be an enjoyable flick to watch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krilly Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 He will show you where the iron crosses grow.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggum Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I dont think "Steiners" was a word of the landser slang. Most likely the autor has misinterpreted something, many english ww2 books have such strange use of german words... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogCBrand Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I'm currently reading Forgotten Soldier by Guy Sajer and on two occasions he makes reference to officers stepping out of steiners. Google was no great help. Does anyone know what type of vehicle he was referring to? Thanks From reading it, I assumed it was a particular model of staff car? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingchavez Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Be careful, it is a well known fact that there are a lot of mistakes in this book, due to the memories and confusion of the author. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Maybe he means Steyr, which was an Austrian car manufacturer until the war? This is a Steyr 1500 staff car. It would seem logical that the author just has gotten mixed with them funny names. Edit to add that here's a nice page about the Steyr cars used by Wehrmacht, in German but with lots of photos. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yak Meister Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 Thanks. Steyr is probally what he was referring to. The author stated that he was only german on his mothers side, spoke fluent french and horrible german. So in all likelyhood its a case of mispronounciation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostRider3/3 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I'm currently reading Forgotten Soldier by Guy Sajer and on two occasions he makes reference to officers stepping out of steiners. Google was no great help. Does anyone know what type of vehicle he was referring to? Thanks I have never heard of a "Steiner" vehicle. could it be a nickname for studabakers? Between Opel, Horsch, Mann, Busenag, Mercedes, Krupp Protze, captured Fords, and Steyr. So my guess is he would be referring to a Steyer, calling it a Steiner possibly, its also possible the Author has it wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonade Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Sajer also calls every machine gun a Spandau. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogCBrand Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 On page 8 he refers to a Steiner as being a "jeep like" vehicle. I wonder if maybe "Steiner" was just a nickname for a type of vehicle? Men often referred to various equipment by names that weren't official. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyPete2171 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I'm currently reading Forgotten Soldier by Guy Sajer and on two occasions he makes reference to officers stepping out of steiners. Google was no great help. Does anyone know what type of vehicle he was referring to? Thanks It's like a makeshift mobile HQ. A truck with "box" on the back. Might have a cot and small desk inside with radio equipment, ect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AslakH Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Maybe he means Steyr, which was an Austrian car manufacturer until the war? This is a Steyr 1500 staff car. It would seem logical that the author just has gotten mixed with them funny names. Edit to add that here's a nice page about the Steyr cars used by Wehrmacht, in German but with lots of photos. It's not a Steyr 1500 he is talking about. Read it again. It's either a Horch of some sort, or a Sd.Kfz 250 (I seem to remember it was a HT at one point in the book). The book is filled with weird names and descriptions. I think it's because it has been translated and revised many times over, and originally written for the French public (they wouldn't know that much about Sd.Kfz's or armament). In my Norwegian edition the historian that had been tasked with describing and editing some of the facts about armament and AOPs still managed to overlook the fact that the 88mm FlaK wasn't an automatic "machine cannon". Just dig into Sven Hazel books. They are truly bizzare, and many believe they are the real deal too. If you want a good read, check out "Tuntematon Sotilas" (the unknown soldier) by Väinö Linna. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondbrooks Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 If you want a good read, check out "Tuntematon Sotilas" (the unknown soldier) by Väinö Linna. And check movie version(s) of it, i favor colored version, but black and white is usually liked more. Was selected to be official training movie for Italian Army back in 50s or 60s. I believe it was used for officer training :cool: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseltaylor Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I have a possible answer. Car Light4x2 Kfz 2 Based on a Hanomag Garant with a large rear locker for signals equipment. Known as Kleiner Fernsprechkraftwagen. It also existed on other chassis Car Light 4x4 Stoewer R200 Spezial Around 13000 built but had 4 variants including a Kfz2 Signals body. Some of this class were actually built on BMW chassis My proposal is that the author part remembered the name, or the troops just ran Stoewer and Kleiner together. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogCBrand Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I have a possible answer. Car Light4x2 Kfz 2 Based on a Hanomag Garant with a large rear locker for signals equipment. Known as Kleiner Fernsprechkraftwagen. It also existed on other chassis Car Light 4x4 Stoewer R200 Spezial Around 13000 built but had 4 variants including a Kfz2 Signals body. Some of this class were actually built on BMW chassis My proposal is that the author part remembered the name, or the troops just ran Stoewer and Kleiner together. That sounds very likely! They fit the description of a "jeep like vehicle". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie_Oz Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I was thinking the Horch 108 but now I read above it sure looks like the Stoewer is more likely 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pak_43 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Men like Steiner were Germany's last hope. And in that sense, he was a truly dangerous man. Brilliant... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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