How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

[The_Capt]

1 minute ago, OBJ said:

So, with great trepidation, he asked, 'which way is the 'right way' for a toilet to spin

CTM

Clockwise!!!  As God and nature intended!

[OBJ]

Would that be standing looking down drain or up?

[Beleg85]

Krynki area, Russian tankodesantniki storming positins of 37th Brigade. I think it is the same place that entire muscovite squad was wiped out while running month ago, within seconds that was recorded by drones.

Very bad feng-shui there for Russians apparently.

 

Edited December 16, 2023 by Beleg85

[TheVulture]

11 minutes ago, OBJ said:

So, with great trepidation, he asked, 'which way is the 'right way' for a toilet to spin

CTM

If it's spinning upwards, that's bad.

[dan/california]

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1735943332243644437

Twitter being difficult. Russian soldier demonstrates the perils of poor training, and possibly vodka. 

[dan/california]

And for some reason this one posted correctly?

 

Anyway, you should read Dmitri every day.

[OBJ]

1 hour ago, NamEndedAllen said:

Linda Nagata’s work

Of course there are many near future mil SF writers ploughing these fields, in advance of today’s war(s). FXHolden comes to mind, for one. 

Thanks @NamEndedAllen

I added both Nagata and FX Holden's as authors for me check out. 

So many books, so many CM scenarios, so little time.

[Bulletpoint]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/18k0reh/full_video_ukrainian_t64_destroys_disabled/?utm_source=embedv2&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_content=post_body&embed_host_url=https://community.battlefront.com/index.php

 

[Bulletpoint]

Sorry for posting a link to Reddit - it's some crazy footage well worth watching, but didn't intend it to autoplay. And this forum won't let me delete or even edit the post so that the video is not embedded.

[LongLeftFlank]

Perun from last month has some very relevant discussion of EW, and how it is keeping the ''Drone Apocalypse" at bay for the moment; last 1/3 of the hour, although the rest is also worthwhile as usual. 

 

 

[JonS]

1 hour ago, The_Capt said:

Why would anyone take hydrological advice from a guy whose toilet spins in the wrong direction?

Fair point, but broken clocks and all that.

[LongLeftFlank]

Avdiivka.  I think the vids were posted before but this presentation gives helpful operational context.

 

 

Edited December 16, 2023 by LongLeftFlank

[OBJ]

1 hour ago, TheVulture said:

If it's spinning upwards, that's bad.

In a day of pretty serious discourse on very serious subjects, it was great to get a little humor in.

Thank you @TheVulture, I got a good chuckle out of this.

[danfrodo]

Some interesting bits here today.  Usual RU stuff blowing up.  Plus allegedly migrants in Moscow fought back against forced conscription.  And an inadvertent suicide by RPG backblast.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/12/16/2212082/-More-Russian-stuff-blowing-up-Russia-continues-to-get-chewed-up-at-Avdiivka?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web

 

[Vet 0369]

On 12/15/2023 at 10:31 AM, FlemFire said:

 

Average age of Ukrainian soldier is over 40, posted in this topic.

The Russians have a 7:1 drone advantage, posted in this topic.

The Russians have a 20:1 artillery advantage (by tube), posted in this topic.

The Russian economy is increasing its GDP with a stabilized war expenditure, posted in this topic (by you).

 

How is this trolling, exactly? I'm dealing with the same information as everyone else.

 

 

How does this have any relevance to anything? Ukraine is in a war for its very existence, and it’s only natural that they recruit and conscript anywho they feel can make a contribution. Case-in point, when I was in Norway on a NATO joint operation, I learned that EVERY Norwegian citizen, from the time they graduated secondary school, was REQUIRED to serve 15 months in the Army, or 24 months in the Air Force/Navy as long as they were physically and mentally qualified. They then served in the Active Reserve until age 45, and then in the Inactive Reserve until age 65! That was in case they were invaded again (this time by the Soviet Union). Your comments about “50-year olds” in Ukraine are nothing more than “Red Herrings.”

You have ONE chance to address this intelligently, before I put you on ignore.

 

 

[The_Capt]

Just now, Vet 0369 said:

How does this have any relevance to anything? Ukraine is in a war for its very existence, and it’s only natural that they recruit and conscript anywho they feel can make a contribution. Case-in point, when I was in Norway on a NATO joint operation, I learned that EVERY Norwegian citizen, from the time they graduated secondary school, was REQUIRED to serve 15 months in the Army, or 24 months in the Air Force/Navy as long as they were physically and mentally qualified. They then served in the Active Reserve until age 45, and then in the Inactive Reserve until age 65! That was in case they were invaded again (this time by the Soviet Union). Your comments about “50-year olds” in Ukraine are nothing more than “Red Herrings.”

You have ONE chance to address this intelligently, before I put you on ignore.

 

 

S’ok.  I think he left.  Like a good missionary he did his gods work and put the time in.  And then bailed once Steve took out his banning stick.  I am sure he will be back.

[Vet 0369]

3 minutes ago, The_Capt said:

S’ok.  I think he left.  Like a good missionary he did his gods work and put the time in.  And then bailed once Steve took out his banning stick.  I am sure he will be back.

I really hope not. I get too stressed with that type of garbage. Definition of stress: “The overwhelming desire to choke the living **** out of some ignorant S.O.B. who really deserves it!”

 

[Vet 0369]

4 hours ago, OBJ said:

Would that be standing looking down drain or up?

I personally wouldn’t be caught dead looking “up” at a toilet (loo to some). I’ve ever been that thirsty!

[kimbosbread]

8 hours ago, dan/california said:

The way to make the invasion of Taiwan simply impossible is the anti shipping version of this thing.

https://www.anduril.com/roadrunner

A cheap 100 km anti-ship missile/drone that launches from its own independent box. The U.S and Taiwan have the ability to do this, we just need to pull our heads out of our behinds and do it at scale, as quickly as possible. By scale I mean tens of thousands of them, they will cost a LOT less if we commit to the necessary numbers up front.

Then we can worry about the navy's job, which is how to deal with a blockade scenario.

Interestingly enough, a friend of friend once worked on a system which was a submerged version of this- basically a container of small torpedoes that could be activated remotely, and would then take out a group of ships that sailed nearby. But basically yes. Autonomous mid-range ship-missiles would protect Taiwan completely in the outright war scenario, if built at scale. However, it doesn’t help if China just decides to do a “non-violent” blockade…

[dan/california]

20 minutes ago, kimbosbread said:

Interestingly enough, a friend of friend once worked on a system which was a submerged version of this- basically a container of small torpedoes that could be activated remotely, and would then take out a group of ships that sailed nearby. But basically yes. Autonomous mid-range ship-missiles would protect Taiwan completely in the outright war scenario, if built at scale. However, it doesn’t help if China just decides to do a “non-violent” blockade…

The blockade scenario at least gives the U.S., and its allies, time to spool up. Of course we needed to start spooling up a year ago. there are some munitions we need ten times more of, and some we need a hundred times more of. That still doesn't seem to be breaking through the way it needs to be. 

Never the less the worst case scenario is the Chinese taking the island the way Putin thought he was going to take Kyiv. That is the one we need to take off the table first. I mean i also advocate putting an entire division of Marines on Taiwan. It would take the ambiguity bit right out of the equation.

 

[dan/california]

This is excellent, but whatever needs to be done to add a zero to that production number needs to be done, soonest.

[dan/california]

7 hours ago, TheVulture said:

If it's spinning upwards, that's bad.

In my experience your day goes to heck when someone yells that that it isn't working. Zero times have I been happy about what happened next.

 

Edited December 17, 2023 by dan/california

[chrisl]

9 hours ago, The_Capt said:

Why would anyone take hydrological advice from a guy whose toilet spins in the wrong direction?

Leaving me with the mental image of a toilet that's mounted to spin like an old Tilt-a-Whirl carnival ride.

9 hours ago, OBJ said:

Would that be standing looking down drain or up?

If you're looking up drain you're in the wrong place.

 

Edited December 17, 2023 by chrisl

[Joe982]

3 hours ago, dan/california said:

This is excellent, but whatever needs to be done to add a zero to that production number needs to be done, soonest.

What what power does the explosive head have?  

[beardiebloke]

3 minutes ago, Joe982 said:

What what power does the explosive head have?  

https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/12/17/ukraine-starts-mass-production-of-750-km-range-kamikaze-drones/

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The AQ 400 Scythe is a long-range drone with a 750 km range, specifically designed for launch from short airstrips or catapults. It boasts the ability to carry payloads of up to 32 kilograms, with the option to expand this capacity to 70 kilograms by sacrificing some range.

Not sure why kind of explosive payload but I guess they can mix it up easily enough as it's all domestic production.